The tint is actually a nice neutral tint with the dedomed U4 1A , this stands true in the 3 M24’s and both of the 2X lights I have. The one field I do beamshots and videos in (175 and 400 yards) is actually so green right now even my cool white lights seem to have a green tint sometimes.
EDIT: here is 2 of my M24’s one with a dedomed U4 1C (very slightly more yellowish than 1A) next to the XP-L HI in the other one with the HI being more of a cool white.
Great review robo, good to see the beamshots.
Far thrower, mine is far less green than the Olight.
Here are the ones I was looking for……. the 2X with XP-L HI (6 amps) and dedomed U4 1A (4.5 amps)………
The target is that little spec almost in the middle of the road at far end of beam.
HI (6 amps) 655 yards
U4 1A (4.5 amps) dedomed 655 yards
Thanks Jeansy
Nice review robo, Thanks. I’ll buy one whether GB happens or not
Thanks, glad to do it.
I think as soon as the trade show is over that Maxtoch is attending , a GB should be taking place. They are really busy with that right now and most of their attention focused towards that show.
I got a new flashlight! I got a new flashlight! (snoopy dance)
Dark? Wherefore art though oh dreary soul? Show thyself and I shall pierce thee through thoust miserable heart!
Critical with these super throwers to measure at full 10m in pitch black conditions if possible.
Am picking up one of the new 2Xs hopefully to test tonight - I want to compare the production 2X with a new reel batch of U4 leds against our prototype light with earlier U4s.
Ok have not yet tested new production run 2X - but here is some test data conducted tonight in perfect pitch black test conditions with fresh charged pana 3400s.
Tonight I tested my own prototype 2X sample at 4 meters, 5 meters and 6 meters. Results = 316k at 4m, 338k at 5m, and 355k at 6m. Given this progression it should match factory spec of 365k at 10 meters. The lux difference between say 3-5 meter testing and 6+ meter tests is quite alot. Just something to bear in mind if you feel your torch isn’t up to it, but you are doing shorter distance measurements.
Also measured my M24 Sniper with its 4.5 amp board and dedomed U4 led (same as in new 2X) and it recorded 290k at 6m. This would likely work out close to 300k at 10 meters. A great little light and an absolute favourite.
Note: external recordings in my environment never match readings inside the building - more ambient light outside etc.
Thanks for the figures Mudgripz will be awaiting the production results.
I’m really happy with mine and I think it is probably the best bang for buck thrower that can be bought right now but I’m afraid I am a little sceptical of the figures.
Are you getting 4.5A at the tailcap? How are you taking the reading?
When you are looking at circa 300k lights, ambient at night, say moonlight, will have almost no effect.
Distance can affect results but that’s due to focus, my results tally almost exactly between 5 and 10m, I think this is way overstated, and 5m difference on these kind of lights that throw 1000m+ is again, sod all difference. I can walk my light back and every meter the readings fall or gain exactly as you would expect.
I look forward to some unbiased results.
Like I said, great light, I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it but the figures don’t quite add up for me just yet. I’m at least gonna say 350k is absolutely the max and these claims of upto 380k are just not gonna happen IMO stock.
Very nice beam shots David, especially the last one.
Hi robo, thanks for the review!
Can you verify if the candela is really somewhere around 365kcd? Thanks!
Thanks
Glad to do it and,
On the prototypes the numbers stayed at or around 355 to 365K lux. I think they are still pretty close to that range. I will call it 350K lux to 360K lux from the test results I have been given at 5M from Dale and from mudgripz and gadgetman though.
Dale (DBcustom) tested his “new out of the box” 2X he received yesterday (Please note this was at 5 meters) the numbers should go UP at 10 meters which is where Maxtoch test these lights ……
Dales initial reading……
“with 2 old rested Panasonic B cells at 4.05 and 4.12V, it made 332Kcd for 1153.39M throw”
mudgripz tested his prototype again last night and said ………
“Tonight I tested my own prototype 2X sample at 4 meters, 5 meters and 6 meters. Results = 316k at 4m, 338k at 5m, and 355k at 6m. Given this progression it should match factory spec of 365k at 10 meters”
So that is 2 different test on opposite sides of the world more or less with a prototype and a factory released model and very close with the numbers of 332K and 338K ,which were done at 5 meters with 2 different types of lux meters. Maxtoch has tested at 10 meters and they have been at 355K to 365K .
So yea I firmly believe the 2X will be at least 350K lux minimum , with the information I am seeing.
Anyone shone this in their eyes yet?
Tonight I retested two 2X lights - first my own prototype sample and then a new production run model. My own 2X again measured 355k at 6m - consistent with factory spec. I can only conclude however that the new model 2X is a statistical oddity as it recorded a whopping 375k at 6m. I tested it several times with same batts as other torch and in same conditions but it read consistently at 375k.
This is quite different from the other 2X samples we’ve tested which are all perform within cooey of factory spec, but it’s not the first time I have come across one example in a range that reads well out of the norm - either high or low.
Again I’d note we use two meters, index against known lights, reference other user findings, factory specs etc to standardise lux readings. That’s about as thorough a testing regimen as you can do. In this case I think its simply an oddity of a light, and the data is of little use. I will ask Amanda to double check lux with several samples of new run.
Retesting again confirmed substantial differences between 4, 5, and 6 meters. Output does not stall at 5 meters in these maxtoch throwers.
Dang throw that one out mudgripz I will give ya my addy so they can use my trash can even
Yes I’m jealous - its a bl**dy ripper.
One comment I would make Jeansy - you wrote “I look forward to some unbiased results.” I would like to note a number of the guys who have worked to develop the Maxtoch range are members of this BLF site - Tom E, gadgetman, Robo819, and myself. These are all good guys. They have no bias of any kind, have no fiscal or other interest in the product beyond helping a receptive company develop good product, and certainly do not try to manipulate or bias any test data whatsoever. Maxtoch has developed a very good reputation for product and service over the years on this site, and for hunters round the world. This is because they make a good, reliable product, they do not inflate data, and they offer excellent customer support. Other site members will confirm this. There is no bias here.
Well said mudgriz.
I got paid ONE flashlight for doing the review , putting together of the GB , the countless hours spent on here and then getting things sorted with the GB for the M24 (BLF-TE) but that is not really adding up to much per hour…….lol
It will be about the same story when it is all said and done with the 2X I reckon.
I do this because I honestly enjoy it and I like the group of folks here in BLF as a whole. I have no ties with Maxtoch other than I happened to buy one of the original M24’s about a year ago and I loved it. I have been talking with the company and working with them just as you stated , because they listen to their customers and they actually respond to many of the suggestions that are placed to them. The end result is the quality product they produce and sell , bottom line.