Quite hard, so hard that I gave up. I only get small pieces off it at the time, so I just scraped there the battery number was. 
5-10 seconds with a hairdryer and the sticker should peel like magic.
Is turning on flashlights on high risky?
Has anyone seen this, it’s a question regarding the 26fm cells.
Question:
Is this authentic, brand new Samsung battery?
Reply:
Hi it is the Rechargeable Lithium - ion Battery, it does not mean that this is brand new Samsung battery.
Edit:
My apologies l4m4 has already posted this.
Anyone notice this has now been changed?
Yes! We have no bananas.
No, but driving the LED hard for a long time without enough cooling will affect it’s lifetime/brightness. Not everyone here cares about that, but there are also those who do care.
now the 30Qs are out of stock … I ordered one to test it in a FET light. I have 25Rs from nkon.nl to compare.
“hard for a ‘long’ time” may be. But would “hard” a few times affect lifetime/brightness?
I ordered two of the 25R. After I’ve read the discussion here I’ve contacted CS to ask if the Samsung 25R are genuine (after sales support) and got a support ticket. The first answer:
“Dear …,
Thank you for contacting GearBest, I’m very sorry for this delay.
Sorry? I have checked your order: WW15080803152xxxxxx, the item you bought is 2 x INR18650 - 25R 3.7V 18650 2500mAh, there is no Samsung phone you bought. could you tell me your order number again?
If you have any further issue, please send meesage to us any time.
Best Regards
After explaining that Samsung makes batteries too I’ve got this answer:
“Dear …,
Thank you very much for your confirming.
I have checked again, my purchasing workmate can confirm it’s Samsung batteries.
Please rest assured this point.
Hope you have a nice day.”
So, there is still hope that they are the real deal. Let’s wait and see what will be delivered before panicking…
You gotta love them! :bigsmile:
If it are no real batteries but fakes it will be obvious in the results(Amps) we get, especially with these high drain cells…I also bought two 25R and one 30Q just because of the very good price…so let’s talk again in two weeks or so when the first of these batch arrive.
Why the customer service(which purpose it is to communicate with people) isn’t able to communicate in a proper way is weird but kind of normal for these Chinese sellers…you can’t get anything…
I bought Samsung ICR 22F from GB some time ago:
http://www.gearbest.com/batteries/pp_196911.html
Have a hobby charger(Imax B6 clone), but havent yet got to test their capacity, most likely will do so with Xtars VC2, though it will show only approximate data, but good enough.
The real life observations so far have been that in fake S2+ which should be draining 2.8A the light isnt bright and batteries appear to sag rather quickly, not so with Pana’s 3400.
Second test was done with cheap white plastic power bank - it charged my phones 2200mAh battery 50% and then volt meter, that I added to powerbank, showed 3.0-3.1V and powerbank stopped charging. All conversion losses and 4.2V to 5V things aside, thats around 1000mAh charged into cell phones battery at charge rate between 0.45A and 0.20A.
You dont lose 50%, do you :D?
I have no doubt the 26fm and the 25r are real, just a little bad English and also not wanting Samsung to know they don’t put it in the item description, so the staff working there don’t know and are certainly not experts.
Guess the BT-C3100 deal is long gone, I went through all 10 pages, nada.
Date codes explained:
http://www.tomobattery.com/blog/samsung-18650-battery-manufacture-date-code/
and
http://www.tomobattery.com/blog/how-to-know-panasonic-18650-battery-manufacture-date-code/
hat tip to various commenters in Panasonic NCR18650PD date code. Please help!
If I’m getting this right, you are saying you tested them in a fake S2+ and then in a cheap white plastic power bank? In power banks there are lots of losses of mAh, and in a cheap one even moreso, so I’m not really surprised you aren’t showing charging close to the battery’s capacity. Fake S2+ is also very difficult to interpret. Neither one of these will tell you anything, since to actually test them you need a known standard to test and measure with.
Yeah this is pretty funny, but also somewhat informative: at least some of their CS is not even aware Samsung refers to anything but phones. This may be why we found some of the “yes they are not Samsung” type replies from their CS. Really people need to wait and get a reliable test before getting too excited. And the 30Qs are out of stock anyways now.
If you calculated, price for Xiaomi power bank 10.000 mah =+/- $ 12, powered by 3 Sanyo 18650BF.
Fasttech sell a pair of the batteries for +/- $16,2.
Banggood sell 3 pcs batteries for +/- $ 23.76
I’m not saying Samsung 30Q that they sell is genuine, because I don’t have one and supply source can different all the time.
Just some logic, real price of batteries for high enough quantity is much cheaper and we don’t know the real cogs.
Same thing if we spent $ 200 for flashlight and compare with LED TV (screen, audio, housing, electronics), it’s not making sense for most people; But here, many of us will assume it’s justified and that’s why I’m glad to be here
The price Gearbest.com and they other operates with, is high compared to what you can get direct from wholesalers and/or fabrics on etc Alibaba.com.
Last month, I had several deals with sellers on Alibaba, and they had some good prices, for the most.
But when you calculate in UPS shipping for just 50 pcs at the time, the price got close to some of the prices I have seen on GB when they have a sale.
Etc, this battery http://www.gearbest.com/batteries/pp_186590.html costs $4.38 if you buy one and one. If you buy 50, the price is $3.45/pcs with free shipping. The best price I have got is $1.9/pcs but 50/pcs = 2 KG, so with UPS/DHL my total is $3.26 when I only buy 50. And I’m pretty sure that GB buys more then 50 batteries at the time, and most likely from bigger sellers that I deal with (that only will sell 50 at the time).
From price lists I have gotten from several sellers/factories/wholesalers it’s easy to see that the price GB takes is not so bad. They actually make money on $3.45/pcs on their UR18650ZY battery. And they make money on all their batteries. Regardless of sale or not.
What other stores takes, don’t mean that GB sells fake batteries, but maybe that the other stores want to make much more money on the same battery, or they buy from a smaller seller, or smaller quantum.
Remember, this is from me, the guy that have not had my best encounter with GB (getting better and better).
And you can always ask, is the batteries I got from Alibaba more real/more fake then the batteries I got from GB?
How I got to learn the system was that maybe one big buyer did buy 400.000 LG MJ1, then several of the smaller sellers, got a piece of this batch.
Then all of then sell the batteries, with whatever price they want. But what if the big buyer is getting a batch of fake LG MJ1s? Then all the other sellers sells fake LG MJ1 batteries. They may not know it, for do they have expensive testing equipment that can test all sides of the battery?
And from the one big buyer, the batteries goes everywhere, also to places like GB. For I don’t think they buy direct from LGs factory.
The other sides is “made for”. Real factories in China, makes batteries with the correct specs, wraps them in “real” brand wrapping, and sell them as real batteries. If the battery has the same specs, and work just a good as the battery made in Japan or whatever, is it a fake?
I don’t know if Samsung, LG, Sanyo etc allows others to produce their batteries, so long as they use their exact specs?
The third is that the factory makes crappy batteries and wraps them with brand wraps, and sell them for real. Then it’s of course 100% fake.