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Thrilled to be here!
I knew I had one lying in a draw somewhere. One of my first LED torches.
I think I threw an SST40 into it a couple of years ago.
Iām truly touched youāve kept this safe all alongāseeing it means so much to our!
There was another brand, Superfire. I owned one light from them, but Iām not sure where it wentā¦quality wise, it was on par with, if not slightly superior to the current Weltool lineup. Iād say it was on par with Surefire back in the day, real type 3 anodizing, that sort of thing. Is it safe to assume that 99% of the stuff being marketed as ĆĆĆĆfire under the HWA/HYS banner is counterfeit? I have never found another hwa/wys light like that Superfire, and I miss it. It was a couple mm thinner than every other wf-501B, it had semi-matte type 3 natural anodizing, the knurling was deep cut and actually grippy, and it was a VERY high quality fit and finished light, on par with Surefire, and put most of the current China based manufacturers to shame. The internal battery compartment only accepted cr123a or other 16mm cells, NO 18650.
Do you guys ever remember selling such a high quality WF-501B under the Superfire branding? This was back in 2007/2008.
What was that big thrower called? It was kind of the first of the budget super throwers and we had a group buy on BritishBlades around 2008. Some of those are still going strong to this day.
I got banned from CPF for comparing the output to an Eagletac M3C4 but it was a third of the price of the Eagtac, the idiot mod said I was spamming the forum with cheap Chinese crap and booted me off.
Are you asking me or someone else?
If youāre asking me, I donāt know the model name.
It just says XML-T6 iirc.
Anyone really. It was a double 18650 silver thing with a big throw head. Kind of a classic.
Not the ones pictured above, way bigger throw head.
This one?
No, itās not that one, thatās much more modern looking. The group buy would have been around 2008. Iāll text a friend who still has one, and still uses it.
Might it have been a trustfire and not an ultrafire?
No, pretty sure UF. Iāve contacted an old BritishBlades friend who has a near photographic memory for things, Iāll let you know. Heāll even remember the guy who organised the GB because he lived in Malaysia and worked in the flashlight trade. He gave us the heads up on the Luminus emitters before they made it into any lights. Said thereās a new thing coming, and itās big.
And it was, physically huge
Iāve never had a genuine UltraFire light. Even 10 to 15 years ago, the market was already flooded with cheap clones which copied the logo. It became a mark of low quality, a mark of false specs and zero quality control, a label used by anonymous vendors for whatever random stuff they could manufacture cheaply. Itās like how if a light had āCREEā printed on the side, that meant it probably did NOT have a genuine Cree LED inside.
Here on BLF we loved that stuff, because while most of it was junk, occasionally there were gems hidden among the mess, and even the worst stuff could usually be improved by replacing a few parts. We built entire modding stores around improving these things⦠get a cheap host and then replace all the parts inside. But the brand itself usually meant that a product could not be trusted. Even if one batch was good, the next batch at the same vendor would often be bad.
⦠and then more reputable vendors began appearing, delivering consistently high quality products which did not need to be modified, for about the same price as modifying products ourselves. They saw what we were doing here, listened to what people wanted, and delivered comparable results in a much more convenient way for a wider audience.
It would have been cool to see UltraFire have an official presence on BLF 10+ years ago, to collaborate with the community and deliver pre-modded high quality items for reasonable prices⦠like other brands did.
But now, it feels like it might be a decade too late?
Itāll be hard to overcome the brandās image as āa placeholder logo to print on anonymous cheap clones of clonesā⦠and the era of dirt-cheap international shipping ended, like, just a few days ago. Plus, people seem to have higher expectations now, for quality and features and performance. Making a comeback will be difficult.
I well remember UltraFire many years ago too and did buy some of their/your stuff. Never had any problems with any of it, notwithstanding the warnings/issues others had.
On the āxxxxFireā label, I also still have and enjoy my TrustFire X6. In my view it still has some of the best anodizing ever available, at least in terms of look and feel. Great light and vastly underestimated and often unjustly denigrated although there were clearly QC issues with some of the first shippings of this light.