Hight capacity battery

hi

i starting to check to build a dive light.

i was thinking to use 9 x 22650 5200mAh battery.

after some search on the web, i saw there are other hight capcity battery in different size.

NiMH Rechargeable Cell: M-Size 1.2 V 26Ah (52A rate)

Tenergy D 10,000mAh NiMH Flat Top Rechargeable Battery

is there any review about theses batteries

the only down side i see to use 9x 22650 battery is recharching.
i will have two choice, remove the battery from the light to recharge it
or
manage external charger, don’t know if there is some charge who can do it.

thanks

9 × 22650, thats quite a few.

These will be parallel connected? What LED are you thinking about? What lumens or runtime are you looking for?

ya i know it’s a lot.

i want to use a cree XPH70

at 2.4A, a XHP70 needs about 12V that give 28w
at 4.8A, a XHP70 need about 6V that give 28w

will need to use paralled and serial connection.

spec said
4022 lm @ 32 W

will like to run it at the maximum…

how many hours i could get with 9 22650 battery?

Depends mainly on true capacity, driver efficiency.
5200mAh x9 = 46.8Ah
/2 because the emitter runs at 6V min = 46.8Ah
assume 90% driver/circuit efficiency (that includes things like tailcap spring resistance)
x0.9 = 42.120Ah
/4.8A = 8.78h
Remove the cells for charging, they’ll stay cooler and it will make the design of the light easier.

will need to put the battery in serie

do you have any driver to suggest?

Is there a reason not to use Li-ion batteries? You can use fewer batteries to achieve the same voltage.

22650 keeppower are Li-Ion batterie

How about this.

$21.55 for 12V 9800mA

not so bad, but 9 x 22650 i get 46800mA
advantage of 22650 it’s easy to find

I think these are the same cells as Keeppower 5200 but a bit cheaper http://www.banggood.com/VAPPOWER-26650-5200mAh-20A-3_7V-Li-Ion-Rechargeable-Battery-p-951875.html

can you show me a link to the 22650 batterys? I only heard of 26650 batterys

you can get keeppower for cheaper in some store like this one

my error… it’s 26650

I think you cannot compare mAh of different voltage cells, thats not fair in favor of lower voltage cells. you should compare stored energy. As LiIons have approx three times the voltage of a Nimh, the Ah will be a third of that of an nimh whit the same energy stored. for example, same size batteries: efest 10440, rated at 350 mAh (measured around 300 at 0,1A) has 1,2 Wh (discharged at 01,A) Eneloop pro AAA (panasonic branded in its current generation) rated at 900 mAh (measured 921 at 0,1A), has 1,12 Wh (discharged at 0,1A too) Here you have the best age to compare batteries: HKJ’s page
And here the tests for the mentioned batteries in the example:
efest Test of Efest IMR10440 V1 350mAh (Black)
and eneloop pro AAA Test of Eneloop AAA BK-4HCC 900mAh (Black)

If I’m in a mistake, please someone correct me

Im fairly sure I recall it being said that pound for pound, 18650 outdo the 26650. In absolute numbers, the 26650 has it, but is it worth looking at 18650s instead? If capacity is the goal, you would have room for more 18650s anyway.

a good 18650 like a panasonic or keeppower is around 3400ma the same price then a 26650 at 5200ma

18650 :- 18mm diameter, 65mm long.
26650 :- 26mm diameter, 65mm long.

so maybe with 18650, i could put 4 by level (4*3) and get a similar diameter then using 3 * 26650

Although, more is no always better. Youre talking a lot of batteries either way. Whatever you use, make sure they are protected.

will allow to use the light during more hours.

I think Ejected Filament is right, for both space and Wh per $, 18650s are the reasonable choice. Take a look at what some of the ebike community is doing they should give you an idea of what you will need.

Just to be sure its understood, by protected I mean those batteries with circuits to shut them off if something bad happens. Its highly recommended with 2 batteries, let alone 9 or 12. Im assuming this will be a canister light, not a standard style torch.

this one is protected

ya that will be a canister.

if i use only two battery with XPH70 and want to be around 30 watts… autonomy will be a disaster