Lights in 4000-5000k that can do at least 1.5hr at 700 or more lumens

I’m okay with the head being 1.5 inches wide. I’m not a fan of sharpie sized lights, I don’t care about weight either, but do want them to b remotely pocket sized.

I’m already aware of Zebralight sc700, convoy s21d, acebeam e75,e70, sofirn sc33, are there others?

I’m also aware that olight baton 3 pro max can do almost 700 lumens for almost 2 hours.

I’m curious about other lights.

What else?

The big one that I see missing from your list is the Wurkkos TS22.

From 1lumen.com:

From selfbuilt’s review here on BLF:

I’m not sure which graph is correct, but they’re both impressive. They could both be correct, if the ambient temp was vastly different (winter vs summer testing, for example.)

Edit: I forgot to mention the Sofirn SP33S. Another really good light for sustained brightness, at least in high mode and not turbo (as long as you’re OK with it being 26650. Some don’t like the girth.)

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IIRC selfbuilt’s one is XHP70.2, 1Lumen one is XHP70.3 HI R9050 5000K. So they are both correct, just different emitters…

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Ah, OK. I didn’t realize that the 70.2 and 70.3 were so different from each other (electricly speaking, the tint shift is clearly way worse on the 70.2.)

I think more of the difference lies in the fact the 70.3 is R9050 than it being 70.3 HI

As for lights that meet the requirements, most of the recent Firefly lights do eg. X1L, X1S, X7

Then You have the Convoy M21H and M26D. Probably most Convoys with the XHP70.3 HI 4000K can manage this.

What’s more, I’d guess all Emisars with the new Lume1 driver will manage 750 with the right emitter.

Another example would be Armytek lights with warm white XHP70 (whichever version) and 21700 cell

There are probably plenty more, 750 is not that hard with a decent driver and a 21700 host (or larger ofc)

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Based on the runtime charts those emisars can’t seem to hold more than 300 lumens. Even d4sv2.

Has anyone done runtime tests on emisar? I’d like to see charts.

Those all use old drivers, mostly linear. The Lume X1 Is a highly efficient boost, same as in some (most?) newer FFLs.

Sustained brightness almost exclusively depends on the physical size/surface area of the host and the driver. And ofc on LED choice, but that’s a given.

As for the older Emisar lights, I see that the D4K even with the older boost driver manages about 850lm for over 2h with 4500K Nichia 519As. I’d guess getting the same platform but with the new Lume1 driver would bump that result a bit higher still

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I have a convoy S21E with the XHP50.3 HI in 4000K R9050. Reviewers have measured the same spec, but in 5000k, at ~700 lumens sustained lasting 2 hours and 45 mintues.

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Anecdotally, I’d go for anything mentioned here besides the Firefly lights. In my experience they have the worst QC and the worst customer service. My first purchase from them was also my last. I believe buying from Firefly is like playing the lottery.

Recently I saw a post from another guy who bought two recent Firefly lights of the same model and one of them had a faulty switch. It would fail to register clicks for some percentage of the time. When he finally managed to get into contact with someone, “Ivy” told him that one of the switches regularly failing to register clicks is normal and it was not possible for Firefly to make all of them work the same.

Any brand can have a lemon, but good companies fix the issue, they don’t gaslight.

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Actually, you have many options. Even though the search field is not ready yet in the database, I do have a Max lumen at 30 min mark in my spreadsheet for the most recent reviews. Normally, if the light can reach the >700 lumens after 30 min, you have good chances to reach it for 90 min or more with a 18650/21700 cell. I will try to paste the results here. My criterias are (1x18650 + 1x21700), >700 lumens after 30 min, form factor is limited to Angle light and Flashlights (no lantern, no headlamps, etc):

Reviewer Brand Model Max lumens @ 30 mins Review links
1lumen FireFlyLite X4 Stellar (FFL351A@4000K) 828 FireflyLite X4 Stellar FFL351A review | EDC flashlight with 1725 lm | 1Lumen
Flashlight Enthusiast FireFlyLite X4 Stellar (FFL351A@5000K) 996 https://youtu.be/vZ4fY6eD9fc
1lumen Acebeam L16 V2.0 901 Acebeam L16 V2 review | Tactical light with 2,200 lm | 1Lumen
selfbuilt Sofirn SC29 (XHP50.2) 903 Sofirn SC29 – Selfbuilt's Flashlight Reviews.ca
Flashlight Enthusiast Acebeam L16 V2.0 (SFT40@5000K) 826 https://youtu.be/Uh1w91vDzOw
zeroair Olight Perun 3 741 Olight Perun 3 Headlamp Review - ZeroAir Reviews
1lumen FireFlyLite X1L Elite (FFL707A) 1111 FireflyLite X1L Elite FFL707A review | EDC flashlight with Anduril 2 |1Lumen.com
1lumen FireFlyLite X1L Elite (SFT70) 1224 FireflyLite X1L Elite SFT70 review | Throwy flashlight with 583m beam distance | 1Lumen
Grizzly’s Reviews JETBeam M37 Pro 953 Jetbeam M37 Pro Review – Neutral White Duty Light with Hidden Charging – Grizzly's Reviews
zeroair JETBeam M37 Pro 840 JETBeam M37 Pro Flashlight Review - ZeroAir Reviews
Grizzly’s Reviews Acebeam L16 V2.0 1213 Acebeam L16 2.0 Review – Full-Featured Duty Light – Grizzly's Reviews
Grizzly’s Reviews Armytek Prime C2 Pro Max Warm (XHP70.2@4000K) 1195 Armytek Prime C2 Pro Max Review – Warm White Tank – Grizzly's Reviews
1lumen Speras TH4 904 Speras TH4 review | Hunting flashlight with 800 lm + Red + Green + IR | 1Lumen.com
Piercing The Darkness Astrolux FT02S V2 896 https://youtu.be/lB4bBe4Fb2E
Piercing The Darkness Astrolux FT02S V2 896 https://youtu.be/lB4bBe4Fb2E
zeroair Sofirn SD06 (STF70) 771 Sofirn SD06 Diving Flashlight Review - ZeroAir Reviews
selfbuilt Cyansky P50R 2271 Cyansky P50R – Selfbuilt's Flashlight Reviews.ca
Grizzly’s Reviews Nitecore MT2C Pro 753 Nitecore MT2C Pro Review – Simple, Slim Pocket Thrower – Grizzly's Reviews
1lumen Convoy M21H (XHP70.3 HI@5000K) 928 Convoy M21H review | 3,000 lumen flashlight | 1Lumen.com
1lumen Astrolux FT02S V2 774 Astrolux FT02S V2 review | Thrower flashlight with 10,225 lm | 1Lumen.com
1lumen Fenix PD35R 709 Fenix PD35R review | EDC flashlight with 1,700 lumens | 1Lumen.com
1lumen Acebeam L35 V2.0 1635 Acebeam L35 v2 review | Tactical thrower flashlight with 5K lumen and
zakreviews Nitecore MH12 Pro (NiteLab UHi 40) 1348 Review: Nitecore MH12 Pro - a relatively slim flashlight with a big battery and a long range beam
Piercing The Darkness Sofirn SP31 V3 833 https://youtu.be/KOmmUGl8EZI
BLF/koef3 Sofirn SD06 1025 [Review] Sofirn SD06 - good no-nonsense light even for non-divers
1lumen Emisar/Noctigon D4K 963 Emisar D4K review | versatile EDC flashlight with LED mixing | 1Lumen.com
Grizzly’s Reviews Sofirn IF24 Pro 771 Sofirn IF24 Pro Review – Better Driver and (mostly) Better Beam – Grizzly's Reviews
BLF/L.R.O Cyansky HS7R (SFT70 + OSRAM Duris P9 PUSTA1.PM) 800 [Review] Cyansky new release HS7R thrower flashlight
BLF/freeme Cyansky HS7R (SFT70 + OSRAM Duris P9 PUSTA1.PM) 1807 CYANSKY HS7R LUMINUS SFT70 Twin Osram P9 21700 Headlamp FULL Review - Not Your Regular Headlamp.
BLF/NightTime Zebralight H604c (XHP50.2@4000K) 985 [Runtimes Review] - Zebralight H604c 1x 18650 Cree XHP50.2 4000K - 93@95 CRI headlamp
BLF/NightTime Zebralight SC64w HI (XHP35@4500K) 1042 [Runtimes Review] - Zebralight SC64w HI Cree XHP35 4500K 80+ CRI
Reddit u/GloryNightTime Zebralight SC600w Mk IV Plus (XHP50.2@4500K) 1274 https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/101jmja/sc600w_mk_iv_plus_xhp502_nw_runtimes/
BLF/rookiedaddy Olight Perun 2 1000 [Review] Olight Perun 2 - 21700 Cool White 2500 Lumens Proximity Sensor Headlamp - #10 by andygold1
BLF/Terry_Oregon Zebralight SC700d 1992 Zebralight SC700d – A Short Technical Review (lumens/runtime graphs/temperature/PWM/current draw)
BLF/Upz Manker Quinlan U11 786 [Review] Manker Quinlan U11 (XP-L V5, 1x 18650, Rechargeable)
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