New High Lumen Claim - 3800 Lumens!

Not exactly being sold there but the employess let me take a couple of drill batteries from the battery recycle bin and I found a couple of practically brand new drill batteries which I extracted Samsung and sony IMRs.

Next up: "Hot chicks who love hot torches!"

Definitely beats other fetishes, dontcha?

gday mate i just did too so we will just have to wait and see & does anyone know whats the best batteries for this torch i have the pcb flame trustfires would they handle this torch cheers & hi to everyone ??

Trustfire Flames shd be ok, but not sure how much are they gonna draw at the tailcap. Remember if each emitter is gonna draw 2.5A, that's 7.5A total. So each cell is gonna be doing at least 3.75A, add some more for driver losses. But we'll have to get it first to see how it goes....it could be more, it could be less.

Others can consider the Solarforce V2 18650 2400, they are only $7 a piece, so that's $14. Just 3 dollars more than the trustfire flames 2400. Batteries are gonna last for a good number of your next new variant LED flashlights. Flashlights change, batteries don't. That said, I have 2 Ultrafires (given to me "free" from my lasers), one 2400 labelled and the other 3800mAH labelled, both are capable of doing 2.5-3A on my XM-L when fully charged and they do last > 1hr on medium (approx 1.25A) so i guess they are "pretty ok". I have the $5 PALight 3000mAH labelled protected 18650 from manafont, pretty ok too.....i think over 2hrs on medium but then during latter stages the current pull could be dropping and < 1A (did not check). Hey, as long as not DOA. Cool

This is esp important for a 2S light like this. So perhaps for starting off, just order $14 worth of Solarforce V2 18650 and be done with it? Laughing

I am sure you'd not wanna use Ultrafires/trustfires on a $100 flashlight next time when you upgrade. The good Li-ion shd last a good couple of years (5 at least?) if maintained well.

Or you can use AW IMRs, they are pretty safe. Won't have fireworks.

I it wise to present a flashlight with the slimmest Asian chick you can find? Makes the light to appear to be twice as big.

What happened to the Trusfire TR-1600 review? The one with the 6x Q5. Also pretty competent. Its only 33 bucks at manafont (the 1-mode one). Small reflectors, but also small emitters, so i guess it pretty much balances out. But if each emitter is driven decently and gives out say 240lm (give it some slack man), that's 1200lm....and it should run pretty hot, probably as hot as this Skyray 3 x XM-L @ 2000lm.

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/2116

I got the 6*Q5 drop-in at DX, and according to my measuremets

  • it is slightly (~3%) brighter than the 5*R2 drop-in;
  • it throws 300m, while the 5*R2 throws 330m (NEMA-throw)

I'm pretty sure they are below 1000lm, while my 5*XPG-R5 is above :)

Thanks....330m sound good. Sounds like Solarforce Masterpiece Pro-1 kind of throw, but with a larger hotspot.

Still awaiting manafont's shipping notification. Weird, I ordered on Sat 1pm HK time and 2pm it was already processing. Usually they will ship then on Monday (sometimes Sunday night). Perhaps its already out of stock!

Tiny chicks with tiny hands make everything look bigger! :wink:

Johnny (just sayin'...) Mac

Samething here , still processing..

They were having a long weekend and the holiday just ended yesterday. The stocks should be coming in soon.

Mine shipped 60 mins ago....got my tracking number.

I ordered mine as well in the wee hours of 6/8. I also have the eBay 65w hid pictured above so I will try to get some shots to compare. I also ordered the protected Palight 3000 mah 18650’s, so we’ll do some tests on those as well, compared to my trusty Trustfire red and black flames. I’m really enjoying the forums guys thanks for all the info.

Heh hehe....all of us have very nearly the same stuff due to this forum. I have the 65W and PALIGHT 3000 mAH as well. Not too bad a cell, 2 are working ok with decent runtime on my UF U-80 XM-L.

But it won't be good pitting the Ebay/aliexpress 65W against the Sky Ray 3*T6, it won't stand any chance unless they really drive it well then at least they are within the dynamic difference in a photograph...ie the XM-Ls not too underexposed and HID not too overexposed (ie 2-2.5A each emitter to avoid heat issues, and anyway even at 2A do warp some foil + heatsink compound).

Newbie want, newbie want. I wonder if I can get a test sample of this light. I want to know which is brighter, the light or the explosion from my cheap red Ultrafire 3000mah cells? They are not called Ultrafire for no reason you know.

Sadly, the first user review popped up on MF this weekend.

"super bright very big hot spot and wide spill, draw on Panasonic 2900mAh 1.45A on high.

same old host, fast strobe and sos really hate them.

this light brighter than most of $100+ light on the market?"

At only 1.45A with (I'm assuming) 2 18650's, that's 1A per LED at 4.2V. That would put this light in the 1200 range (minus all losses). Hopefully this reviewer had some less than perfect cells or a bad seed, but anything more will be a plesant surprise when mine comes in next week.

From CPF

"There is another SZOBM version that is workable with 3 or 4 x 18650 via extensions. 3 cells = 1.77A. 4 cells = 1.3A. Tailcap surely will be able to handle that. 22 watts. 2-cell would be approx 2.6A.
Each XM-L getting 1.8A, nice and cool and efficient compared to gunning them at 3.3A!"

If this were the case you'd see 1.7+A per LED and would yield around 1800-2000 (minus losses).

Hehe....I posted that on CPF, I got the info from Multiple 18650 forums here, the thread "The Power is here" where Thommy got the SZOBM.

1.45A at the tailcap for 2-cell is bad! But seriously anything more than 20W for the 52.6mm drop-in is gonna be bad as well. 10W is bad enough for 26.5mm with alu foil + heat sink compound (coat the whole foil with it thinly before rolling it up TIGHT). Its the drop-in to host interfacing that we need to optimise. Other that this its gonna be more deep in by playing with the emitter/PCB inside.

But one thing's for certain at 1.45A, its gonna last for a long time and there won't be heat issues for continuous operation, and no PWM flicker. :D Maybe Sky Ray is playing it safe, too many complaints about faulty lights by people just gunning their XM-Ls for a long period. LEDs are not HIDs, if you want continuous POWER and no holds barred lumens then go HID.

I agree, it will probably still be a good light with good output (for the money). And if it's a little underdriven means its going to be more reliable and stay in working condition for a long time then so be it. Mine's already on the way, so it is what it is I guess.

52 bucks shipped for 1200 very efficient lumens and at least 1hr run time and no heat issues gunning it continuously (it'd still be pretty hot though), the equation is not too bad. Just that it could be better for us disciplined flashaholics.....I mean you can run the SBOMZ on medium and still be around the ballpark of this Sky Ray 3X. :)

Hope we can be pleasantly surprised when we receive the light.