It would be a great thing to have some other standard for dropins widely available.
Which comes first: new dropin standard or less heat generating LED´s?
Nevermind... LED´s will always be drive to the max so the heat is not going anywhere :-P
You need mass and/or an efficient thermal pathway to effectively deal with heat. The MCU-C88 comes to mind - thick and heavy - the antithesis of the EDC friendly P60 form factor, which is relatively light/compact for the amount of light you can build into one.
There are no free lunches. There is only so much heat a small piece of aluminum can wick to your hand and your hand can only draw away so much heat at a given rate. P60 designers probably never imagined emitters/drivers so powerful. So what do we do? We drop in drop-ins that sizzle near 4 amps and limit our time on high. What else can we do?
I still think some kind of C8 standard would be ideal. It's already an accepted form factor, reflector size allows for serious throw and it can be built robust enough for superior heat dissipation.
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It's going to be better and cheaper than a SF G2.
http://www.solarforce.hk/index.php?controller=products&action=view&id=93
Solarforce to glass fiber reinforced plastic (GFRP) and aluminum alloy combination, successfully created in 2012 another set of lightweight and high brightness in a flashlight products are cordially you to offer the latest model - P1.
Flashlight part of the P1, high quality aluminum alloy, through the computer lathe precision machining, surface oxidation by the military the third level of the anode hard by of GFRP (a very tough, lightweight, corrosion-resistant and durable plastic material) parcel into the holding part for the family to provide comfort heat-resistant. In addition, the tube body of the GFRP cast streamlined cooling pores, maintain good ventilation to effectively prevent the LED components to overheat. P1 used GFRP by the addition of flame retardants, greatly increasing the safety of the product, practical, lightweight and flexible design, in fact, one of the essential professional home outdoor Solarforce flashlight.
Specifications and Features ︰
- Components of the head, battery tube and tail switch three major components (light bulb does not contain a component) can all be dismantled and converted into related Solarforce professional compatible accessories
- Shell of glass fiber reinforced plastic and T6061 aluminum alloy constitutes
- Color ︰ black, yellow, brown and green
- The original settings you can use two CR123A or 16340 or a 18650
- Tail forward with lock switch (touch of bright style), can withstand the 3A current
- Waterproof design
- Size (head diameter x length) ︰ 34 x 136m
- Weight ︰ 68g (not including the bulb components and battery)
If the head (the threaded part that hosts the drop-in) is made from metal and not from plastic, it will provide better heatsinking than the G2. We can still switch to a standard metal bezel for heatsinking purposes.
this host looks really nice, i like the video where the leave it on in the fish tank for well over an hour. guess i found my next host...now the wait!
Not sure if this has been posted yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OueYwvIy0vI
All it does is demonstrate operation submerged in water. The sea creatures are a nice touch 
Nice my SFG2 is my favorite light for cold winder walks home from the bus stop on my commute. I use it to host incans mainly. I have a few of these stocked up. The nitrolon feels SOOO much better to hold when its wet and cold out. I hate how it wont fit 18650 cell though... that drives me nuts.
Might be time to retire the old bird....
I think you won! Closest guess for the price ;)
Yes, sometimes I ballpark product prices pretty close... I would love to be able to do the same with lottery numbers. ;-) BTW...L2P black reverse with clip has a pretty good price ATM ($20.98).
Does it change color when you cook it?
Damn, I was looking forward to this one but over $20 just seems like too much. $17.99 like the L2P would've been my limit for impulse buying.
I think I will wait for a review, also how it will look with a clip or will it even fit properly.
I'm going to take a yellow one for a spin. Now the wait begins...
I was excited for this but I'm with RedForest. It's hard to justify another P60 purchase when it's >$20. Gotta draw the line somewhere. I'm just not in the mode of collecting P60's so the price has to be right. If I didn't have a quality host already (L2T) then I wouldn't hesitate.
I think 26usd is too much. Maybe a good review could change my mind. Most likely not.
I think the yellow one turns black ;)
Yeah, It's $40 as a complete light! That sounds a little too much for me. It's 3 times the price of an L2 body! I suspect the price will come down.
Marc.
Ill buy it soon, this will be the one I keep in my car.
so does anyone know if the P1 available yet? i agree with others though, $26 is a bit much for a host but can't really wait for folks reviews on these.