Ota's Beamshot Thread... [Very Picture Heavy ✰ Updated 2016/02/09]

Otanacious · January 19, 2015, 5:11pm

Oh yes! 300th post!

Camera Settings (Panasonic DMC-FZ47)

SS: 1/6
f-Number: 2.8
ISO: 400
White Balance: Daylight
Focal Length: 4.5mm

Family Picture

_{All on good condition laptop pulled batteries: Sanyo UR18650FM and Panasonic CGR18650E. Internal resistance according to LiitoKala Lii-260 is 50~60mR.}

Tailcap Amp Sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ygwio-7ZwkRUf82A_cFYFU2jic3Io6IFMmizxDjurKI/pubhtml?gid=1205015457&single=true

Control Shot

Distance to Bench: Approx. 20 meters
Mode order in pictures will be from High to Low

CatEye HL-EL135N

UltraFire HD2011 XM-L T6-?? (CW) w/ stock driver @ ~3.14A

Mods:

Copper Braided Tailspring

http://imgur.com/a/WwH15/embed#0

w/ XM-L U3-1A on Dielectric Copper

http://imgur.com/a/hwiVm/embed#0

ZeusRay 'TurdRay' SK73 w/ stock driver @ ~2.85A

Mods:

Dedomed XM-L U3-1A

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/LGGI5/embed#0

ZeusRay 'TurdRay' SK73 w/ 8*7135 Nanjg 105c @ ~2.45A (one chip wasn't connected properly)

Mods:

Dedomed XP-G2 'Oops' R5-1A*

Swapped Stock Driver to 105c

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/Qa2Uc/embed#0

_{*You can see the area on the focused LED image where a piece of phosphor came off}

+ 2*7135 @ 3A

http://imgur.com/a/lJwWo/embed#0

Convoy S2 OP XP-G2 R5-1A w/ 8*7135 105c @ ~2.70-2.82A

Mods:

Copper Braided Tailspring

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/v6XSA/embed#0

Convoy S2 SMO XM-L2 U2-1B w/ 8*7135 105c @ ~2.84A

Mods:
Dedomed XM-L2 U2-1B

Copper Braided Tailspring

Copper Braided Driver Spring

FT 'Carbronze' Driver Spring

SMO Reflector for S2/S5/S6/S7/S8 Hosts from FT*

http://imgur.com/a/xj7zr/embed#0

FT SK98 XP-G2 'R5'-?? (WW) w/ stock driver @ ~2.09A

Mods:

Swapped <22AWG wires to 22AWG wires

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/x8ILE/embed#0

Tangspower AK-96 XP-G2 'R5'-?? (WW) w/ stock driver @ ~0.94A

Mods:

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/HshWq/embed#0

BLF Eagle Eye X6-SE CW @ ~2.4A

http://imgur.com/a/8oU9I/embed#0

BLF Eagle Eye X6-SE NW @ ~2.42A

http://imgur.com/a/hlJvQ/embed#0

Convoy C8 SMO XP-G2 R5-1A w/ 9*7135 105c @ ~2.6-2.7A

Mods:

8*7135 + 1 stacked

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/Gl74Y/embed

Convoy C8 OP LG H35C1 LEMWA-FX w/ 9*7135 105c @ ~2.25-2.3A

Mods:

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/qNo0x/embed#0

_{The last picture is a side by side of the "6500K" LG emitter from FT leans towards the NW tint compared to an XP-G2 R5-1A}

FT SK98 Jan. 2015 Batch XM-L2 T6-3B (from C8) w/ stock driver @ ~1.59A

Mods:

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/RD3AZ/embed#0

FT SK98 Jan. 2015 Batch XM-L T6-BLUE w/ stock driver @ ~2.00A

http://imgur.com/a/SDsv1/embed#0

FT SK98 Jan. 2015 Batch LG H35C1 LEMWA-FX w/ stock driver @ ~0.92A

Mods:

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/LsMpR/embed#0

Convoy S2 SMO XM-L2 U2-1A Dedomed w/ 8*7135 105d @ ~2.8A

Mods:

Copper Braid Tailspring

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

SMO Reflector for S2/S5/S6/S7/S8 Hosts from FT*
_{*Reflector gave me a ring of fire so I sandwiched an o-ring between the reflector and the pill to remove it}

http://imgur.com/a/K7Ceu/embed#0

ZeusRay SK73 'Post-Debacle' XM-L2 Unknown NW w/ stock driver @ ~3.20-3.40A

http://imgur.com/a/mqY9D/embed#0

Tangspower AK-96 LG H35C1 LEMWA-FX w/ Stock Driver Bypassed @ ~2.00A

Mods:

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

Convoy C8 SMO XM-L2 T6-3B w/ 9*7135 105c @ ~3.11A-3.12A

Mods:

FT 'Carobronze' Spring

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

http://imgur.com/a/54T1B/embed#0

Techlite Lumen Master XM-L T6-?? (Salvaged from HD2011) w/ 4*7135 Generic @ ~1.50A

Mods:

XM-L T6-?? CW on Alu 16mm

4*7135 3*380mA + 1*350mA Generic Driver from FT

Salvaged Steel Spring from another driver

Omten Switch on 17mm contact board from FT

Switch Retention Ring from a WF-501b

http://imgur.com/a/E1549/embed#0

FT SK98 2014 Lumiled 495nm Turquoise w/ DD driver @ ~0.89A-0.90A

http://imgur.com/a/7dLaQ/embed#0

_{My camera cannot render Turquoise/Cyan very well :sad:}

Convoy S6 SMO XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 10*7135 (8*380mA+2*350mA) Qlite guppydrv @ ~2.76A-3.26A

Mods:

+2 7135 350mA

guppydrv firmware

Braided Driver/Tailspring

16mm Noctigon

20mm AR Lens

http://imgur.com/a/URXsP/embed#0

ZeusRay SK73 XM-L2 U2-1A Dedomed w/ stock driver @ ~2.80A

Mods:

Dielectric Copper

http://imgur.com/a/I38k6/embed#0

SingFire SF-348 w/ stock driver @ ~1.15A-1.20A

Distance to Bench: ~3m

http://imgur.com/a/spHOo/embed#0

Ultrafire HD2011 XM-L U3-1A w/ 8*7135 (8*350mA) 105c @ 2.88A

using Samsung INR18650-25R

http://imgur.com/a/bNHY8/embed#0

Convoy S2 OP XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 9*7135 (9*350mA) 105d @ ~3.09A-3.12A

_{using Samsung INR18650-25R}

http://imgur.com/a/dvqTA/embed#0

Convoy S6 SMO XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 13*7135 (8*380mA+5*350mA) Qlite w/ guppydrv firmware @ ~3.48A-3.54A

using Samsung INR18650-25R

Mods:

Same as "Convoy S6 SMO XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 10*7135 (8*380mA+2*350mA) Qlite guppydrv"

http://imgur.com/a/Q7KCc/embed#0

Convoy C8 SMO XM-L2 U2-1A Dedomed w/ 9*7135 (9*350mA) 105c @ ~3.27A

_{using Samsung INR18650-25R}

Mods:

Same as "Convoy C8 SMO XM-L2 T6-3B w/ 9*7135 105c"

http://imgur.com/a/Qz567/embed#0

Roche F12 XM-L T6-1A w/ 8*7135 (8*350mA) 105c @ 2.83A

_{on Samsung INR18650-25R}

http://imgur.com/a/JLMMg/embed#0

Eagle Eye X2 Carclo 10197 XM-L2 U2-1B w/ Stock Driver @ 2.52A

_{on Samsung INR18650-25R}

Mods:

Carclo 10197 Optic

http://imgur.com/a/tyvEc/embed#0

Eagle Eye X2 Carclo 10197 XM-L2 T6-3B w/ 9*7135 (9*350mA) 105c @ ~3.26A

_{on Samsung INR18650-25R}

Mods:

Dielectric Copper MCPCB

+1 AMC7135 350mA

FT 'Carobronze Spring'

Braided Driver Spring

Carclo 10197 Optic

http://imgur.com/a/7s5fe/embed#0

Stock Convoy S2 OP XM-L2 U2-1B w/ 8*7135 (8*350mA) 105d @ ~2.81A

on Sanyo UR18650FM

http://imgur.com/a/Pegqu/embed#0

Convoy S2 XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 7*7135 (7*350mA) 105d @ ~2.45A

on Sanyo UR18650FM

http://imgur.com/a/6kd6F/embed#0

SupFire F3-L2 XM-L2 ??-?? w/ Stock Driver @ ~1.93A

^{on Sanyo UR18650FM}

http://imgur.com/a/tDdvW/embed#0

SupFire F3-L2 XM-L2 ??-?? Dedomed w/ Stock Driver @ ~1.70A*

^{on Sanyo UR18650FM}

Mods:

Dielectric Copper

http://imgur.com/a/eXQ0F/embed#0 ^{*The factory driver in both of the SupFire's I received were slightly different}

SupFire Zoomed Domed vs Dedomed Beam Profile

Convoy S2 XHP50 J2-1A DD w/ 2.7kOhm Resistor @ ~3.80A-~4.00A

^{on 2*Purple Efest 18350}

Courui D01 CW XM-L2 w/ Stock Driver

^{on 3*Sanyo UR18650FM}

http://imgur.com/a/bJP6v/embed#0

Ultrafire F13 CW XM-L2 w/ Stock Driver @ 1.76A

^{on Sanyo UR18650FM}

http://imgur.com/a/sijFt/embed

GearBest Fake Convoy S2+ CW XM-L2 w/ 105d(?) @ 2.15A

^{on Sanyo UR18650FM}

Mods:

LEDSupply 60*30 TIR Optic

http://imgur.com/a/knOgE/embed

BLF Manker A6 XP-L ??-1A w/ A17DD + 1*7135 (350mA) @ 4.12A

^{on Samsung INR18650-25R}

http://imgur.com/a/TvE3H/embed

BLF Manker A6 XP-L ??-3D w/ A17DD +1 7135 (350mA) @ 4.01A

^{on Samsung INR18650-25R}

http://imgur.com/a/GwuIK/embed

Convoy S2 XHP50 J2-1A w/ Cell DD & 22AWG Jumper @ ~7A

^{on 2*Purple Efest 18350 (4.2V Charge)}

Mods:

Copper Braid Tail Spring

Convoy S2+ (2016.01) XM-L2 U2-1A w/ Stock 8*7135 105d

^{on Samsung INR18650-25R Blue}

http://imgur.com/a/33agr/embed

Tangspower AK-96 XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 2.5A Linear Driver

^{on Samsung ICR18650-28A}

http://imgur.com/a/NIEDz/embed

Newland · January 29, 2015, 1:59am

I loved that Convoy C8 XP-G2 R5-1A!
Cool pictures

LinusHofmann · January 29, 2015, 2:14am

Very cool way of showing comparison beamshots! Nice!

Otanacious · January 29, 2015, 10:52am

Added more sets starting with "FT SK98 Jan. 2015 Batch XM-L T6-BLUE"

I have a few more lights to take pics with, will probably get that done on Friday night.

89_300ce · January 29, 2015, 2:36pm

As previously stated. Very nice way of presenting beamshots.

MRsDNF · January 29, 2015, 7:08pm

Thanks for the shots. Whats your pick of the zoomies for a cheap light?

zoom_zoom · January 29, 2015, 7:24pm

Awesome, thanks for doing that! I like that you recorded the amps too. How good are the Sanyo UR18650's? Would you have any better results with different batteries?

jacktheclipper · January 29, 2015, 7:27pm

Well done .

Thanks for sharing .

Otanacious · January 29, 2015, 10:09pm

Added a tailcap amp spreadsheet in the OP.

Right now I only have the ZeusRay and the OEM SK98 from FT. In the ideal situation (factory problems set aside), I'd have to pick the ZeusRay.

The UR18650s, the FM in this case do very well for daily driver use. All of my other cells are LCO and report around the same internal resistance from my Lii-260 (50-60mR), so I suspect the amps I recorded are at peak performance without having to move to LMN cells or doing more driver mods.

zoom_zoom · January 30, 2015, 3:27am

Thanks for the reply! I have a bunch of those, and I was wondering what the deal was. Some people seem to think they aren't very good, but that link and a couple other reviews I've seen pretty much say they are just as good as any. was contemplating buying efests but I don't think it's really necessary.

Otanacious · January 30, 2015, 11:20am

Added some more sets starting with 'Tangspower AK-96 LG H35C1 LEMWA-FX w/ Stock Driver Bypassed @ ~2.00A'

Added some more slight mods and links that I overlooked (might not even consider them mods ;) )

and a tailcap amp spreadsheet at the top of the OP.

Otanacious · February 10, 2015, 6:23am

More beamshots up starting with "Convoy S6 XM-L2 U3-1A Dedomed w/ 10*7135 (8*380mA+2*350mA) Qlite guppydrv"

Otanacious · February 18, 2015, 10:21am

More beamshots starting from "Ultrafire HD2011 XM-L U3-1A w/ 8*7135 (8*350mA) 105c"!

My latest Convoy C8 rebuild is my new favorite C8 :party:

bibihang · February 18, 2015, 2:15pm

Beamshots are always nice. Thank you for the effort!

MRsDNF · February 18, 2015, 6:48pm

Thanks Ota. I have the SF 348 in front of me now. I quite like it.

Otanacious · February 20, 2015, 2:14pm

Added more beamshots starting with "Roche F12 XM-L T6-1A w/ 8*7135 (8*350mA) 105c"

I also got to play with my Eagle Eye X2 (practically an S2+ or other way around) sporting a Carclo 10197, and I freaking love it!

89_300ce · February 20, 2015, 2:45pm

Noob question.

I currently have a Convoy C8 OP XM-L2 8*7135.

What is the easiest way to get the XP-G2 in there?

How would my OP reflector affect your Convoy C8 SMO XP-G2 beamshot?

I would like a larger, smoother hot spot like your C8 SMO XM-L2 but still keep the spill down like your Convoy C8 SMO XP-G2 (don’t want to light up the pavement).

Jorg

Otanacious · February 20, 2015, 3:15pm

My setup was a little botched, but I rotated my XM-L butterfly spacer 45deg and had it rest under the tap screws so they don't move once I started to screw in the bezel. I'm not sure if there is an XP -> XM reflector converter, but there is one for vice versa.

As for a smaller spill, I'm not too sure how to alleviate that one. Maybe someone else can chime in?

When I took the C8 SMO XP-G2 beamshots the light was positioned behind the camera, so it didn't get the immediate spill. The XM-L2 beamshots had the light side by side to the camera, so I believe the spill in the SMO between the two would be roughly the same maybe a little less with the XP-G2.

An OP reflector would probably do the opposite of what you want, making the spill brighter, but with a smoother hotspot.

Here's a ceiling shot (~2m) with the XP-G2 with the OP reflector. Not sure if it's useful.

89_300ce · February 20, 2015, 3:16pm

So the apparent difference in spill is mostly due to the camera angle and not the emitters? I was hoping to reduce the spill from my C8.

Jorg

Otanacious · February 20, 2015, 3:34pm

In this case yeah :( Don't get me wrong though, I'm sure it's possible.