One of the new Default features of Anduril is Post Off Voltage Display (POVD). A lot of new users find it confusing, and I always disable that feature. It might be good for Anduril to ship with POVD disabled.
What do you think, would you prefer to keep POVD Enabled by Default? Or do you think it would be better for Anduril to ship with POVD Disabled, by default? Bear in mind that if POVD is disabled by default, a user that wants that feature, can still enable it as an Option, on an individual basis.
Run a 14500 light on turbo for 15 seconds and shut it off. Then immediately check the voltage with three clicks. If the battery is at 3.9 volts you may see 3.0 volts or lower flash out for the first flash and then 3.7 on the second go round and then finally 3.9 on the third flash. It takes a few seconds to as many as 10 seconds for some batteries to fully recover from the voltage sag.
So depending on the battery and the brightness level you are at before you turned it off, 4 seconds is going to be potentially very misleading. If you ramp down to a low setting for 10 to 15 seconds before you shut it off then it may be close.
In the end it’s better to just leave the light off for a bit and then do your three clicks.
Considering its the first thing i disable, and the malunt of posts i see on reddit about it, its safe to say yes
However i see why its not. All the ““cool”” anduril features (like aux and tint ramping) are all enabled by default. Keeping it hidden would stop some people who actually want it, but dont have an updated manual (like on most sofirn anduril lights), from enjoying it. If you dont like it than disable it
This is the first time I’ve heard of this.
I looked at the flow chart more carefully and it looks like you can set this battery indicator auxiliary light thing for as many seconds as you want. I think there’s way too many colors. Especially in the middle range. Under certain light conditions, identifying between green and cayenne and blue is going to be difficult.
Do you need to check your battery status after every time you turn on/off the light? NO.
I’m not going to vote. I am not likely to buy a light with auxiliary lights anytime soon. I only have one and that’s the wurkkos HD10. I was an early beta tester when the light had all kind of problems. I did not buy it.
Edit, Is the factory default set at 4 seconds?
And I agree it should be disabled by default: it blasts green or blue light out when I turn the light off when using it on moonlight (even in low, RGB green/blue is visually much brighter than moonlight and ruins my night vision), and moreover, when shown after higher-powered modes, it’s really imprecise (tends to show a lower voltage than the real one, because the battery didn’t have time to settle).
I realize we’re just taking about flashlights here, but by sharing survey results (especially when it favors one choice) prior to people having the chance to make a decision, you are influencing the results.
Excellent point. Personally, I actually keep the POVD enabled, but I can totally see the point of wanting it disabled by default, and I would not mind having to enable it at all. Yet, I would go even one step further and argue that even with a current manual/diagram, it would be almost impossible to figure out that such a feature exists at all. Take e.g. the only current diagram that I am aware of that includes the default settings (an exemplary model-specific diagram by myself, source):
This is an awful lot of hullabaloo over something that can easily be disabled. I understand that most want it disabled. However, disabling something by default usually ends up meaning 90% of people will never care to enable it because they don’t even know it’s an option.
Because I’ve thought more about it, I’ve changed my answer to keep it enabled, since it’s easy to disable it anyway.
I mean, think about it, most of us have our own likes/dislikes about Anduril 2. And we usually take a couple of minutes to set up each light the way we like them. This is just one more step in that process. Personally, I have mine set to 1 second. Yes, I understand voltage sag and all that jazz. To me, it’s an easy reminder that I’m going to need to charge these battery sooner than later.
Floor - 1
Ceiling - 75
KR4 gets disabled turbo (it gets way too hot too fast to be useful at all)
Unlocked Aux - Low Red
Locked Aux - Low Cyan
POVD - 1 second
The same goes the other way. If it is enabled by default and they don’t have an updated chart to disable it then they can’t shut it off.
Show that chart to 100 people on the street and ask them to study it for 1 minute and tell you what they think it is.
I think the results would be pretty funny.
I appreciate anduril but it is turning into a carnival / arcade. I’m waiting for the beeps, horns, whistles and other sound effects. No offense to those who like carnivals and arcades.
No offense to the hundred people on the street. No offense to anyone. And certainly no offense to TK. She is giving people what they are asking for.
There are 3 different ways to check battery voltage in Anduril
manually doing 3C from off
using the default Aux Voltage Display
using the default Post Off Voltage Display.
the problems w Post Off Voltage display include:
Some people like to turn the Aux Off, but with POVD enabled, these people complain that the Aux “flash” when they turn off the light.
Some people like to set their Aux to a specific color, for example, I use Red Aux on Low, for my nightstand application. I dont want the Aux to flash on High Brightness Blue, when I turn off the light after using it in the middle of the night. Blue light interferes with getting back to sleep.
Some poeple complain that when they set their Aux to a certain color, that the light flashes the wrong color when they turn the light off. They dont know about POVD and find it confusing, since it is not the color they set the Aux to, and they dont know how to turn POVD off.
A large number of posts from new users, involve unexpected POVD behavior, and it is tiresome to have to explain how to disable POVD, over and over again, to new users.
So, thanks to everyone for voting. And for sharing your personal reasons for why you voted the way you did.
It is clear from the Poll results (both here on BLF as well as on Reddit), that the majority of people would prefer POVD to be disabled by default.
I agree that people who know Anduril well enough, can chose to disable POVD if they want to. Its the new Anduril users that are confused by POVD, and dont know how to turn it off
There are many more cries for help from people that are confused by POVD, than from experienced Anduril users who know how to turn it Off, or On.
Having POVD Off by Default
would eliminate the large number of cries for help, from new Anduril users.
would eliminate a flash of High Brightness Blue Aux (full battery), after using a light in a lowlight situation, thereby compromising their Dark Adaptation hormones (Rhodopsin), and Sleep Adaptation hormones (Melatonin)
Point taken . Still, with POVD coming up there is an incentive to check out what is going on, and possibly to study the manual or a current diagram. Without POVD coming up, this is simply the end of this feature story.
But I’d turn it on if I could get less… resolution might be the best word.
Don’t tell me the voltage, tell me a percentage, in like 4 or even 3 steps. Lets say, green, purple(or orange), red. Full-ish, medium, dead-or damn near close to it. If adding a 4th step, when gets lower then flash it on red for “LVP about to engage”.
Close enough for real world use, it gives an idea on being usable or not, but doesn’t take forever, flash much, or invoke in depth thinking outside what I’m actually doing to remember what a green and cyan alternating strobe means…
. Still, with POVD coming up there is an incentive to check out what is going on, and possibly to study the manual or a current diagram. Without POVD coming up, this is simply the end of this feature story.