this is my fear also, once i get my light…that once i by accident go into a wrong mode group, i will have to break out the charts and see if i can somehow navigate back to the original (stock) mode.
lets hope its easier than i fear
Not exactly beamshots, but more fun. We got our first trick or treaters tonight, 3 of ’em.
Can you have a different moonlight level between mode sets and ramping?
I thought once you set it, it would be the same in both modes.
Can you have moonlight at 2 in ramping mode and moonlight at 6 in mode sets, for instance?
The newest cheat sheet has few ussage notes
- do short quick clicks
Switch from MODES to RAMPING
(while holding the lamp goes into strobes, thats normal)
hold for 3.2sec, after two short blinks and one blink, 2x (= do double click).
The lamp continues to blink out configuration for RAMPING.
Switch from RAMPING to MODES
(you hold for a long time, if you ramp down it’s easier on the eyes)
hold for 8sec, after two short blinks and one blink, 1x (do a single click).
The lamp continues to blink out configuration for MODES.
(Basically it’s holding the button till it blinks 2x and 1x and than a double click shuts RAMPING on. A single click shuts it off.)
Now you can wait till the lamp is gone through the rest of the config menu. The lamp will blink four times short when finished.
Or
you do a click and hold till the lamp blinks four times.
It’s pretty easy. Hold for config mode, wait for number of flashes for setting you want to change, tap switch required number of times (e.g. 6 taps for mode group 6) - easy!
It’s really not that hard.
First, you need to determine what you need to change.
Just change that one thing and get out of menu mode. Then check to see if the change happened.
I honestly don’t ever mess with the menu options. I experimented with mode sets just to try it, but did not like it. The only change I made in ramping was to turn off blinky modes. That’s it.
The menu options are just that, options. Your not required to go in there and make changes.
I’ll make a video showing how to change a specific setting if anyone is having trouble. Assuming talking can’t fix the issue.
Again from the cheat sheet:
You can reset the lamp
Reset to factory in RAMPING:
From OFF and ON:
3x, 2x, 2x, press&hold (for 1.2sec) till 4 blinks
(in words: tripple click (brings up battery check), double click (temperature), double click (firmware number, it its 1.0). then hold down the button)
=
Reset to factory in MODES:
Only from OFF:
1x, click&hold (for 2.5 sec), 2x, 2x, press&hold (for 1.2sec) till 4 blinks
(in words: one single click, then hold down the button for 2.5sec (brings up battery check), double click (temperature), double click (firmware number, it its 1.0). then hold down the button)
=
If you want to change the modes set, you go into settings, the lamp blinks:
Setting Number
- is blinked two short blinks, one long
- is blinked two short blinks, two long
(here you click 1 to 12 times, according to the mode table) - is blinked two short blinks, three long
- is blinked two short blinks, four long
…
The two short are there to get your attention, you had to count the next blinks.
(It is a ready, steady, GO! )
( If it helps you can think it blinks Men-u one, Men-u one two, Men-u one two three, …)
Then you have time to press your clicks like in the table.
Then the next setting number is blinked out.
If settings is finished it blinks 4 times.
And if you choose a set with 6 modes and you have enabled moonlight (which is the default) you end up with 7 modes.
Getting back to the stock mode is easy since the software supports resetting back to factory setting. I did this on the one I configured to mode operation before deciding that ramping was the way to go.
I thought mine wasn’t working. Turns out setting the new moonlight value wasn’t the problem, but getting to see moonlight level from of to ramping was. You need to press it shorter than you might think. I was pressing it to long, it jumps from moonlight to the lowest ramping value, without any values in between if you press it just a bit to long. Next to that, the change is most noticeable if you set it to 1 or 7.
Yes, increasing the time for blinky lock-in would definitely help, as in my opinion the 1.2 sec almos requires gold medal level olympic training 
Best Regards,
George
Is it doable to flash a new version of Narsil yourself? Or does it require specials tools/skills?
The app keeps the screen on, in order to keep the light sensor on. The problem is that this runs down the battery faster, so it needs to be plugged in during the test.
No. In the source code, it has only one place for the moon level. It should always be the same for ramping and mode sets. However, in mode sets you can disable moon to make it start higher.
Yes, but it requires some cheap parts and some free software.
Click the Link in my signature for a lot more information on that. 
(the “README” file in the code repository has particularly useful info, including links to some of the parts and other threads for more info)
No, no. It should not take more than 1.2 seconds to do a single click.
I think your problem might be you are pausing to see which blinky mode your in.
Decide which mode you want beforehand.
Regular strobe
Tactical strobe
Bike strobe
2 sec beacon
10 second beacon
So we know that a dbl clk, pause, dbl clk goes to the first strobe.
So let’s say you want the bike strobe. That’s the 3rd one. So you dbl clk, pause, dbl clk then give 2 more clicks.
If you overshoot and are at 4th level, then just press and hold and you go down to bike strobe.
If you undershoot and are at tactical strobe, you press and hold. When it drops to regular strobe (unlocks) click twice. Now your in bike strobe.
If you only use regular strobe then you can disable the other 4. Now when you dbl clk, pause, dbl clk you are always in strobe. No extra clicks to do.
The problem with increasing the lock time is you now can’t turn the light on and off quickly. This may be more of a mode sets problem though as it also shares the same lock time. You’d turn the light on and have to wait at least 2 seconds to turn it off. That can be annoying.
Maybe the lock time for blinkies can be set seperate from modes? That might work. It would require a reflash, though.
If your gonna reflash it, then the next version of NarsilM v1.2 might be worth it. With the new wrap around feature you can press and hold to go back a level even if your on the first strobe. Instead of turning off, it would go to the 5th blinky mode. I like this idea.
ToyKeeper just confirmed that if you can set it in mode sets, then that carries over to ramping as well.
So if you set moonlight to 2 in modes sets, it will still be 2 in ramping mode.
Negative. In ramping it always goes to the default, which is #3. In mode sets I can change it to any level of moon. I have 2 lights and they are both the same.
Wow 16K posts, seems like only last month it was 10K posts…
In ramping, the bottom of the ramp is always 3/255. Moon is a separate level beyond the end of the ramp, accessible only from off, and it takes good timing to access. If moon is set to 7/255, a hold-from-off should go “7, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, …”. Or if moon is set to 1/255, it should go “1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, …” The default is “3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, …”.
But there’s no way to ramp down to the configured moon level. It’s a separate thing, because Narsil handles it as being not actually part of the ramp.
This quite odd, especially for 2 lights.
Just to confirm, when in ramping mode, your pressing and holding from off. Then releasing the button as soon as the light comes on?
Keep in mind that ramping down to the lowest level does not go to moonlight.
Moonlight is only accessed from off.