Review of Lightscastle 12x ultrafire 7,200 lumen multiemitter. (WOW)

I’ve had almost of my bad lights and batteries from Amazon, its really not the best place to buy for quality, the good thing is you can keep returning them till you get one that works…

The 15 LED modded light only had 5000 lumens?

Yeah, probably because it had more LEDs none of them were pushed very hard. Or perhaps it didn’t have the same good driver as the 12x.

RMM just finished modding a SupFire L1 five LED light for me. In fact I am waiting to get it back. This is a full on modification using the circuitry and tricks he developed for modifying the Supfire M6 including fitting copper Noctigon mounted LEDs, braiding the springs, driver changes etc. Per his sphere measurement it has ended up putting out 7,300 Lumens when run with Sony US18650VCT4 high current batteries. He indicated though that he found getting the LEDs aligned and the reflectors back on to be a PITA as there are 5 separate reflectors held between a front plate and the individual LEDs if I understand correctly. Sounds to me like he would need to make some fixturing if he ever decides to do them on a semi-production basis. Pretty spectacular though for a beer can sized light IMO. Makes the Nitecore TM26 look kind of puny.

Is this the same as this one?

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If so what other mods were done to it to get to 7300 Lumens? sounds like it could be a cheap mod choice

Nope, below is a link to an article on the L1 with photo

Full Review with lots of pics including disassembly ones: Supfire L1 from FarFarLED

After 84 days from the second order (as they shipped wrong torch first time) my LW-12L2 has arrived

Not had chance to use it yet as I have got the batteries in my Opus 3100 doing a charge test to see how good the Trustfire flame 26650’s are

It came in a brown cardboard box (undamaged) and was bubble wrapped inside, However upon inspection there is quite a bit of damage to the torch itself which I am guessing was there before shipping as box is ok

There are lots of marks in the body and a dent on the bar next to the last heatsink and marks both sides of the extension tube

No point in sending back as they didn’t want the old torch they sent in error back so I had to pay again for the LW-12L2 before they would ship it out then I had to sell the wrong torch |( |(
And that said as it took 84 days I emailed them chasing it up and they gave up replying to me, I would not recommend anyone using them (Lightscastle) unless you like long waits and bad customer care.

Some companys have no pride in what they sell, all they care about is getting your money, they could see when shipping that this had lots of damage they just could not care !!

Curious any one know what the throw is like on this beast?

Not sure yet my Trustfire Flames (protected) cut out on high ( waiting for some King Kongs from Richard to arrive) I can say that on medium it out throws my Tangsfire C8 while lighting up the entire field between me and where the hotspot is.

Since this GB is going to take a while, but I’m still going to participate in it, I decided to purchase the last one the Amazon dealer had on Monday night to see how it is for myself. Holy cow! This is one sick light. All it needs is a better UI, as has been discussed here, and it would be great.

Side by side to my UniqueFire UF-T09 9x cree, the Supernight shines on the cool side of the tint, making my Uniquefire look a bit warm.
The light arrived from Amazon totally mint and flawless. I’d say it’s a steal even as it is for $59.99 with free 2 day shipping.

The following are my tailcap readings using various 3x 26650 cells.

Trustfire 5000mAh protected - 6.82 amps
MNKE IMR cells - 7.35 amps
EnerPower 4500mAh protected- 9.0 amps
KeepPower 5200mAh protected - 10.9 amps

Wow, it would take a good amount of pressure to bend that strap ring while packaged. Sorry to hear about your light arriving damaged fireblade.

http://www.amazon.com/SUPERNIGHT-Flashlight-Bright-Battery-Waterproof/dp/B00DY0GQW4/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1410901599&sr=1-1&keywords=supernight+flashlight

I have some KeepPower 26650 IMR 5200mAh Un-protected cells arriving today. Should be interesting to see how it performs with them after a top-off charge.

As I recall earlier in the thread someone bought it and reported lower output than from the 12 LED. Also Supernight is offering multiple 12 LED lights with different appearing heads and cooling fin machining. The 15 LED light you linked to is the same fin arrangement as the 12 LED one I bought and returned as it died after less than 5 minutes of operation. Some of the 12 LED Supernights, based on photos, have the same fins as the Ultrafire light in the OPs post.

RMM bought the same light that I did from Amazon and after disassembly reported minimal contact between the driver and LED table part of the head and the rest of the head finning so poor thermal transfer away from the LEDs. Like too many budget lights from China you are never sure of what you have until someone opens it up and looks at the guts. Kind of like the ancient Roman haruspex and his divination from sacrificed animals livers. :bigsmile:

http://www.amazon.com/SUPERNIGHT-TM-Flashlight-waterproof-Shockproof/dp/B00FCQ6Y34/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1411057626&sr=8-4&keywords=supernight+flashlight

Just go down the 12 and 15 LED Supernight lights in the above linked to Amazon page and note the different fin arrangements on various ones. The direct linked to light has the same fins as the OPs light.

The 12 emitter lights seem to be the way to go. The 15T6 I got (different brand, maybe Ultrafire) had 4S cell holder (Could run on 2 cells too), emitters were wired 5S3P, and had a very whimpy boost driver.

Well, after comparing the SuperNight to my Trustfire AK-47 (KD 2nd Gen driver) , and the UniqueFire UF-T09 tonight, I decided I like the Uniquefire best due to the side switch, not to mention it really isn’t that much less bright, somehow.

I fully charged the 6 new Keeppower IMR26650 unprotected cells and tossed them in the SuperNight and the other set in the AK-47, the Uniquefire received the Enerpower protected 4500mAh cells.

Tailcap readings using the cells mentioned were as follows:

SuperNight 10.45 amps
AK-47 5.88 amps
UniqueFire 3.85 amps

The Uniquefire and AK-47 both have the exact reflector, so their beam profile is the same, but the Supernight reflector having 12 XM-L’s, the individual reflectors are only half the size and are shaped like straight tubes, whereas the other two lights have double the width reflectors and flare outwards as they should. The SuperNight uses XM-L’s that are actually cold in color, I’d say about 7500k. So unless these are changed to something warmer, I don’t think I’d participate in a GB, if only for that reason. If BLF member, ‘The’ can get the manufacturer to upgrade to XM-L2’s with a proper NW, I’d love to grab a second one for sure.

‘The’ can get the manufacturer to upgrade to XM-L2’s with a proper NW, I’d love to grab a second one for sure.

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10006644/1519900 But still too Cold

The FET is a 35N03 would that be worth swapping to a 70N02 like in the SRK mods?

I’d be up for that as long as the power output is reduced. As it stands now, my +B spring has already started to darken and the annealing process has begun. I’ve only used the light a minute here and a minute there for beam shots.

Using KeepPower IMR26650 cells and 10.45 amps at the tailcap is just to much power for this light. Not to mention when using all other protected cells (if they fit), is beyond their output and will trip the protection if you try to use it on high mode.

Just something to consider.

My battery positive spring has got quite dark as well.

I have already braided the spring and changed LED wires from 22AWG to 18 AWG , I braided the switch spring as well which seems like a poor design to me , the spring won’t fit into the “cap” the copper “cap” (not sure of its name) sits mostly on top of the spring you would have thought the spring would go inside it as it is half hollow.