Smallest very-high-luminosity 18650 floodlight torch? (say 3-6 batteries)

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Hi!

I bought the Emisar D4 some while ago as it’s the highest-luminosity single-18650 torch on the market.

I used it in the wild though and its operating interval (4000 lumen, dropping to 1000 quite soon) is nice but in a real situation in wild nature, it will not illuminate the whole place you’re in but rather a narrow angle, and not so many meters away too.

This led me to see that I want a still maximally lightweight torch that is giving at least 3-4x the punch, and hopefully is more reliable at the high throughput.

I noticed the Acebeam X80 (X80 Powerful Flashlight|AceBeam® Official Store | Flashlights, Tactical Lights, 330 grams without battery) and the X45 (X45 Led Flashlight|AceBeam® Official Store | Flashlights, Tactical Lights, 535 grams, not sure if this is with or without batteries - probably without) - their weight, in particular the X80’s, is great, however they both go down to 4000 lumen, that’s probably a bit weak?

So what I wanted to ask you now is:

What are the smallest ~10,000+ lumen torches on the market?

Thanks!
Tinker

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Astrolux MF01
Thrunite TN36 2017
Olight X7R
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But they’ll throttle down also

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Are you asking for a 10k lumen flashlight that doesn’t throttle down? If so you will have to ditch the “small” requirement because there will have to have some serious heat-sinking. These small/regular size 10k lights throttle down so they don’t burn.

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Mike, what’s the most lightweight torch that will do 7000-12000 lumen without throttling below that?

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The only light that can do 7k plus without stepping down is the Imalent DX80. On its high mode it does 7000 lumens without step down.
Imalent reliability is shocking though.

Don’t think any other light comes close to 7k lumens without step down. Let alone 12k

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How about the Storm of Ra? It’s not small though.

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But at 7K+ Steady lumens you would have to consider one more thing: battery life. With 4 cells runtime would be about 30 minutes.

Maybe all you need is a decent thrower with 200+ kcd and a 2,000lm flooder. Floodlights don’t serve very well in the outdoors as you have to push it hard to get some throw.

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Flasky, the Astrolux MF01 ( Pre production sample [Review] Astrolux MF-01 4x18650 flashlight supplied by Banggood , https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-MF-01-18x-XP-G3Nichia-219C-12000LM-Super-Bright-LED-Flashlight-18650-p-1165131.html ) looks interesting indeed!

I have a question, how is the number of LED:s correlated with lumen output (given the same 4x18650 battery set as input)?

(This Astrolux MF01 is rated 12000LM and has 18 LED:s. The Acebeam X80 has 12x emitters, and is rated as 25000 lumen.)

The Acebeam has a way higher pricepoint, and is more lightweight. I think overall the Acebeam seems like a way better lamp.

The biggest limit on the Acebeam (as well as Astrolux) would be that it has only flood mode and no focused long-reach omde.

Do you know any addon lenses I could use to give long distance mode?

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The MF01 uses XPG3 LEDs. The Acebeam X80 has Xhp-70.2 LEDs.

It would take at least 4 xpg3 LEDs to even come close to rivaling an xhp-70.2 LED in terms of output.

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Sorry, I wouldn’t have a clue. I only build/mod lights, I don’t know about whats on the market in terms of actual lights.

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this is at least 60-80W
Take a CPU heatsink that have similar TDP rate and was made to work without fan. Calculate fins surface area. Take a note that flashlight should be more durable and cant have so thin fins. Actual weight of such flashlight body will be 2-3 times more that CPU heatsink or 2-3kgs.

P.S.
Common street light cant do more than 5000 lumens, although this piece of aluminium weights more than 2kg.

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Thanks very much for your followup -

The “Storm of Ra” lamp looks quite phenomenal however indeed it’s gigantic (~20x20x16CM). The weight is not disclosed anywhere.

It’s tiring that all these >10,000lm-rated lamps actually step down to 1800 lumen or so, e.g. that’s what the Imalent DT70 does, Review: Imalent DT70 FloodKing (XHP70 Dedomed, 13k+ Lumens) .

I should therefore rephrase my question like this:

Which are the flashlights in the world below ~450 grams excluding batteries, that have the highest sustained light output?

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Okay, I realize this thread needs to be widened beyond 18650 lamps specifically, so I create a new thread in the general group, Which are the highest-*sustained light output* flashlights below ~450 grams excl batteries? , “Which are the highest-sustained light output flashlights below ~450 grams excl batteries?”.