thanks Boaz! and yes he is correct, they are xeno E03 like he showed in his picture. What looks like fingerhold are clips I ordered from Kaidoman in search of a proper fitting clip, plus they chrome and black clips help me distinguish the ones with colored LEDS and not colored leds.
I bought all 5 from a member who is a dealer of them for a great price. Here's the link, doesn't look like any are left, but the guy who runs this website is a really great person / dealer to work with: https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/65431. I swapped the leds out of 4 of them. But they came stock as a 14500 light with an xml-2 led! So basically I realized bc I had no idea, it's like in today's standards a 14500 light coming stock with a sst40! They are awesomely made, and I used them often. I have red, blue, 2700k, and 5000k leds I have installed, along with Simons Convoy drivers because the only downfall of the original e03 is the UI - which is medium, low, high. Now I have the 12 mode selectable in some of them. Well 2 of them have the convoy driver, I still need to buy more . I started with 2 to make sure swapping the driver would work. It does