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[dave1010]

@Ocelot

I believe the upcoming THOR PRO Hybrid is exactly the “next big thing” you should be considering obtaining instead of a top gun high end conventional LEP.

I’m really excited about this light, but wonder what compromises will accompany an affordable price point. Using 4x 18650, I have runtime concerns with the huge current demand of the LED array plus the LEP… and thermal management is an even bigger concern. I can’t wait for details and specs.

Yeah, a good driver is going to make or break this light. The channel for the LEP will presumably use a boost driver but the 3V LEDs may well be FET+1. I’m not sure what will happen when both channels are on high or turbo.

I should have 1 on the way to test (thanks to 1lumem and NealsGadgets) and will try to answer your questions over in another thread

@Ocelot

By the way, many thanks for your excellent Tech Reviews articles. Keep up the great work!

Thanks for the kind words!

[Photon_Master]

@Ocelot

Photon Master,

I believe the upcoming THOR PRO Hybrid is exactly the “next big thing” you should be considering obtaining instead of a top gun high end conventional LEP.

I’m really excited about this light, but wonder what compromises will accompany an affordable price point. Using 4x 18650, I have runtime concerns with the huge current demand of the LED array plus the LEP… and thermal management is an even bigger concern. I can’t wait for details and specs.

Dave,

The BT55 has a 60mm lens. I agree with you a minimum  80mm lens would be desirable, just so happens to be the lens size of the $5.3k Acebeam W50.

By the way, many thanks for your excellent Tech Reviews articles. Keep up the great work!

Thanks Ocelot! I reserved one… wish I could buy it now with overnight shipping. I’m not a patient man!

[ChibiM]

Just published the Weltool W5 review.. https://1lumen.com/review/weltool-w5/

Will add measurements to the OP

[Photon_Master]

@ChibiM

Just published the Weltool W5 review… https://1lumen.com/review/weltool-w5/

Will add measurements to the OP 

Amazing review!!

So could I get some advice? I was just out walking on the beach with my trusty W30. Great light but I want more.

What’s the absolutely best and most powerful long throwing LEP to get? Well, with the caveat that it needs to be under $1,000. As much as I’d love the W50 that’s a little steep

Thanks! (Advice from others is also appreciated)

[ChibiM]

@Photon Master

@ChibiM

Just published the Weltool W5 review.. https://1lumen.com/review/weltool-w5/

Will add measurements to the OP

Amazing review!! So could I get some advice? I was just out walking on the beach with my trusty W30. Great light but I want more. What’s the absolutely best and most powerful long throwing LEP to get? Well, with the caveat that it needs to be under $1,000. As much as I’d love the W50 that’s a little steep Thanks! (Advice from others is also appreciated)

Currently, the Maxtoch Xsword L2K is the king of the (LEP) hill.

Amazing throw, and amazing runtimes.

[Photon_Master]

@ChibiM

@Photon Master

@ChibiM

Just published the Weltool W5 review… https://1lumen.com/review/weltool-w5/

Will add measurements to the OP 

Amazing review!! So could I get some advice? I was just out walking on the beach with my trusty W30. Great light but I want more. What’s the absolutely best and most powerful long throwing LEP to get? Well, with the caveat that it needs to be under $1,000. As much as I’d love the W50 that’s a little steep Thanks! (Advice from others is also appreciated)

Currently, the Maxtoch Xsword L2K is the king of the (LEP) hill.

Amazing throw, and amazing runtimes.

Thanks so much! I’ve been wanting to try one of this guy’s custom lights that others on BLF talk about. Do you think this would be the best model to get?
https://skylumen.com/products/one-off-maxtoch-x-sword-l2kvn-2-50mcd-lep-thrower

[hinbli]

I have got some questions about Maxtoch Xsword L2K short and L3K short.

The OEM battery for L2K is 20350*2. It looks like L2K short can be powered by one 21700 cell. One 21700 fits in L2K short physically, and the light turns on. The table above is from OP. It looks like the test/review for L2K short has been done with single 21700.

Does 21700 in L2K short work properly? In other words, does the light turn on at the full/maximum level with the regulations? It will turn on, but it can be like at some limited/lower level with direct drive. (I asked this question in another thread, but there was no help.) The OEM battery for L3K is one 21700. I am hoping that L2K with one 21700 performs as good as L3K with one 21700.

Also, according to all of the reviews for L3K mentions that the beam pattern is better than L2K. L3K has the new style module. So, it does not have the hole in the beam shot at the short distance. Is that the main difference? Is the beam patter different/better at the distance?

Thanks.

[ChibiM]

@hinbli

I have got some questions about Maxtoch Xsword L2K short and L3K short. The OEM battery for L2K is 20350*2. It looks like L2K short can be powered by one 21700 cell. One 21700 fits in L2K short physically, and the light turns on. The table above is from OP. It looks like the test/review for L2K short has been done with single 21700. Does 21700 in L2K short work properly? In other words, does the light turn on at the full/maximum level with the regulations? It will turn on, but it can be like at some limited/lower level with direct drive. (I asked this question in another thread, but there was no help.) The OEM battery for L3K is one 21700. I am hoping that L2K with one 21700 performs as good as L3K with one 21700. Also, according to all of the reviews for L3K mentions that the beam pattern is better than L2K. L3K has the new style module. So, it does not have the hole in the beam shot at the short distance. Is that the main difference? Is the beam patter different/better at the distance? Thanks.

The longer L2K (with 2*21700) does not work well on a single 21700!

It works for a few seconds, and then turns off.. at least that's what's happening with mine.

[Matai_O]

I am looking forward to the Maxtoch twin lep ‘Owleyes W Pro’ coming out around February. .
1200lm.
4000mtrs

We will see when someone is able to review the ‘Owleyes W Pro’ and see if the claims are accurate.

[ChibiM]

Yeah, looking forward to that one!

[dave1010]

4000m?

That’s getting close to the Lemax LX70 SUPERPOWER https://www.lemax.cz/searchlights/25-lemax-lx70-superpower

[ChibiM]

Yeah, pretty crazy for sure.. and hopefully it can maintain that like it does for the L2K and Owleyes 2

[autumncrown]

Not sure if this is the right thread - but I have a Fenix TK30 that has developed some kind of optical abberation near the hotspot. See this photo: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

The hotspot is on a black object so that the abberation, beneath and slightly to the right of the hotspot, is visisble. Curious what might have happened. Also curious if it would be worth going through Fenix’s warranty process or if this is too minor an issue. Might end up selling at a steep discount as I am a bit anal about such things.

[ChibiM]

I don't really know what I'm looking at in that picture.. could you take a few more?

[djozz]

@ChibiM

I don’t really know what I’m looking at in that picture… could you take a few more?

As I understand the hotspot is ok, this light works fine, it is some anomalies outside the hotspot while whitewall hunting.

Do I hear steep discount? :money_mouth_face:

[autumncrown]

@djozz

@ChibiM

I don’t really know what I’m looking at in that picture… could you take a few more?

As I understand the hotspot is ok, this light works fine, it is some anomalies outside the hotspot while whitewall hunting.

Do I hear steep discount? :money_mouth_face:

Yes lol that’s the gist of it. I don’t think output is affected. It’s just I never noticed it for a year and a half until now, so I thought maybe something happened. I may sell because I am getting interested in big lumen throwers instead of LEPs.

I will try to get a better shot of it but it’s hard because the aberration is so dim compared to the hotspot.

[djozz]

It sounds like it may be some dirt on the phosfor, outside where the laser is focused. You may have a look at the phosfor region by looking through the lens (with light off please ). Or else I would not know, and also not if it may be progressive.

[Dreaming1 (Dreaming_)]

The Weltool W4 reaches almost as far as the Maxtoch Xsword L2K but comes in a single-battery size, so more compact. Haven’t compared runtimes though. Just fyi.

[autumncrown]

Here’s a video of it.

The video makes it look worse than it is.

To be it looks like the laser is not aligned quite correctly anymore, either with the mirror or the phosphor - though I have no experience with fixing LEPs. It just looks like when something is hitting the edge of a mirror.

[ChibiM]

Thank you for sharing....
Oh, I don't really know honestly!