The new Jaxman E3 flashlight comes in the new year

[DoubleA]

@jaxman

WE ARE VERY UNHAPPY TO SEE A COPY OF NEW EDITION E3 LATER. RECORDED HERE, AND TO SEE IF THERE WILL BE A COPY OF NEW E3. TODY IS 2018-1-3!

Ouch, in your face thorfire, sofirn and all others. :laughing:

[hatman]

I’m confused — is the E3 with 219C for sale on AliExpress an older model?

[niraya]

Please Jaxman

1. Include moonlight mode below 0.1lumen like Zebralight or user configurable moonlight like Manker
2. Use warm or neutral emitter of ar least 90+ cri
3. use bi-directional configurable driver like blf a6

And have a very Happy 2018 ! :+1:

[g_damian]

2A with 219c for 600lm and 2A with luxeon v for 900lm. And no glue, please!

[MascaratumB]

@hatman

I’m confused — is the E3 with 219C for sale on AliExpress an older model?

It is: Page Not Found - Aliexpress.com

Being it already released, do you intend to make any changes on the driver, jaxman? On the product page it says: Middle and High only.

[J-Dub74]

I agree with all of what Persechini said (copied below) and djozz too. Those would be exactly my suggestions.

@Persechini

Nice design! Here are my suggestions to your questions:

1, high- middle- very low or high- middle?

Always start on the lower mode. Don’t forget a good low moonlight (moon - low - med - high)

starting on high or med is TERRIBLE, never do that, please

2,use 5050 LED or 3535 LED? I think the reflector is small, if we use a XML SIZE —-flood well; if use xpg2 /nichia 219 size—-have a well spot…

3535, so you can use the same reflector for xp-l, xp-g2/3 and nichia 219C

3,and the high CRI and normal LED are also need to be considered….

219C 90 CRI is always good, and there are few flashlights for AA/14500 that have this option (usualy high cri versions use older 219B). I personaly love the 90+CRI 219C 5000k

For regular lower CRI led, could also have the option of cool white and neutral white (6500k and 5000k)

I would add as a few others have that I don’t like that it doesn’t have over-discharge protection. I understand it’s not easy as you want it to also work with Alkaline and NiMH cells but I think you need to seriously consider resolving that issue. As others have mentioned most people here have unprotected 14500 cells. Simply having the driver set to blink a few times and shut off if the voltage is 1.6V - 2.9V would cover most scenarios. Not perfect but much better than not having any form of LVP.

[Persechini]

Wait, isn’t the E3 a version of the TG06? I thought thorfire’s came first, and sofirn is kinda like the same factory as thorfire, but not really

[Jerommel]

I think the host all come from a few factories.
ThorFire, Convoy, Sofirn, Jaxman, etcetera… get their hosts from the same factory / factories, i think.
I assume Mateminco makes all hosts for Utorch, Manker, Astrolux (but maybe not anymore), etc…

About the modes:
Best to start with MEDIUM.
Because medium is most usable.

[Persechini]

@Jerommel

About the modes:
Best to start with MEDIUM.

Not that anyone with a flashlight collection can claim complete sanity, but your are definitely farther gone than me, haha

[J-Dub74]

@Jerommel

I think the host all come from a few factories.
ThorFire, Convoy, Sofirn, Jaxman, etcetera… get their hosts from the same factory / factories, i think.
I assume Mateminco makes all hosts for Utorch, Manker, Astrolux (but maybe not anymore), etc…

About the modes:
Best to start with MEDIUM.
Because medium is most usable.

This is somewhat accurate regarding hosts but you have too many lumped into the same basket.
Convoy and Jaxman get their hosts from the same factory. That’s why they both have such nice hosts. :sunglasses:
Thorfire uses a different factory and I don’t know about Sofirn.
Mateminco makes all the hosts for Astrolux but Manker broke away quite a while ago and use a different factory. The rest I’m not sure of.
As far as your mode tastes buddy we are on two different worlds but you have a right to your opinion. Personally, I hate lights that start on medium…but that’s just me.

[lmns]

@MascaratumB

@hatman

I’m confused — is the E3 with 219C for sale on AliExpress an older model?

It is: Page Not Found - Aliexpress.com

Being it already released, do you intend to make any changes on the driver, jaxman? On the product page it says: Middle and High only.

Probably the same or a similar driver / configuration as with the M2: Page Not Found - Aliexpress.com

Low > Med > High would be nice. No strobe.

I think Nichia 219c as the only option in warm / neutral is fine. Would be nice to have one brand which consistently has Nichia options. Wouldn’t mind if they dropped all Cree emitters except in throwers. The 219c seems good enough to make high CRI the default for most floody EDC lights.

[Persechini]

@lmns

Wouldn’t mind if they dropped all Cree emitters except in throwers. The 219c seems good enough to make high CRI the default for most floody EDC lights.

Agreed

[EyeballFryer]

1. I prefer low, med, high. No moonlight. Some people want moonlight. Maybe you can make moonlight an option that can be changed by soldering a star on the driver.
2. I prefer XM size for more flood.
3. No PWM, please.
4. Is it easy to unscrew the bezel, so I can change the LED?

[DoubleA]

@Jerommel

Best to start with MEDIUM.
Because medium is most usable.

I concur, as long as that medium is close to a 100 lumen value (for NiMH).

@EyeballFryer

4. Is it easy to unscrew the bezel, so I can change the LED?

Looks like it’s an integrated head design now. It will be a bit more difficult than the pill version.

[matik42]

@jaxman

AND THERE IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING TO DISCUSS. THAT IS:
1, high- middle- very low or high- middle?
2,use 5050 LED or 3535 LED? I think the reflector is small, if we use a XML SIZE —-flood well; if use xpg2 /nichia 219 size—-have a well spot…
3,and the high CRI and normal LED are also need to be considered….

I vote for

1. verylow-low -> middle -> high
2. high CRI 4000K-5000K

[jaxman]

hi, thanks for your advice.
but,I think xpl hi is not a good choice. for:

1) xpl hi gives little flux than other LED with s lens, like xml, xpg. for example, the xpl hi in 3A， gives only 900 lms, less than the xml2 1100lms.

2) xpl hi leds’ advantage is based on its small core and big power. but if you want get it advantage, we need a bigger reflector. while E3 has a limited OD, the reflector only has a 16mm diameter reflecting surface. We should design products based on all datas, not our idea…… that is my opinion.

3)maybe xpl hd is propper, but I think in many situations, xpl hd is only a concept to talk, not too much advantage.

[jaxman]

hi, I want make things simple.
I want moon light-middle-high.

As over-Discharge protection, AA/Ni MH we set a 0.9V stopping work protection,while Li Ion, how to do? so a good way to resolve it is adding protect board on 14500 battery.

[jaxman]

hi , the fat SS bezel is because its structure, and there is also a O ring before the glass, so ……no way to make it more thin……

With a Ni MH battery, now the out put can upto 900+ mA. This value will be influenced by the quality of battery.

As LED, yes I also agree to 3535 led, XPG2, 219C, and LG 3535 are also Ok.

[jaxman]

I only make a trial selling of new E3,
not old version.

All is according to the discription of the item page.

[jaxman]

thanks for your advice.

I prefer to make simple function lights. I am making simple and steady tools from begin……………I dont know what is BLF A6 either…and I also feel hard to make too complexd UI,