Wurkkos TS30S + monster LED SBT90.2 = $60 4750lm 1km SUPER-Thrower. Comparison w/ TS30S Pro & other lights incl. the :-) insane 13000 lm Nightwatch Valkyrie. (Summary & measurements on P. 1)

  • Comparison of Effects of Convoy “Green Reflection AR Lens ” (it’s a reflection not a tint) on Duv (it makes Duv about 20 points more negative) Here and white-wall beamshot Here

The purple reflection AR lens is what I would stay away from.

Yes. An outer ring at periphery, brighter in the new one versus the old one, but still very dim compared to hotspot. White wall hunting will show this, in real life use by 20-30 yards it will not be visible. It doesn’t bother me at all but YMMV.

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Some nice custom clips. excellent !

Nice looking, curious how others feel about the rings. On a wall it a normal, but nor 100 yards down range.

My light arrived today, and, it was 10 days total. That’s a nice surprise.

HOLY MACARONI: Throw = 1125 meter 1st “casual” try :yum: :+1: .
4760 lumen.

Hotspot is BLINDING. This is with my Nealsgadgets Lishen LR2700HP, but without AR lens. Which I’ve found to increase output about 3%.

I suggest anyone on the brink to dive in (EDIT 3/13: pardon the unbridled initial enthusiasm; please read my next few posts on TS30S Pro.) especially if it’s still at the ridiculous sub $60 sale price.

I’m using a Samsung 40T in mine. I wonder if I would be able to tell the difference with that battery you have.

Above is data from first gen TS30S. TS30S Pro will behave similarly. @Fwhomeboy, stay with Samsung 40T. Very close to Lishen in this light. I use Lishen only to test the upper limit (“bragging rights”), in real life I can’t tell the difference.

BTW the bezel is much harder to take off vs first gen. I had to use rubber dishwashing glove. And be VERY careful, there are TWO O-rings, one above and one below the lens, and they are different from each other. The one above the lens (next to the bezel) is flat and feels like plastic, not silicone.

When I get some AR lens and repeat testing many times, throw and lumen might go up still. At 60 buck, nothing comes close to this baby.

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Thanks Cannga!

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Per Simon that 58.2 mm lens is a purple-reflection lens. Not good.

I got about 57mm for the lens diameter of the TS30S Pro; is that what you have also?

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Some preliminary highlights:

  1. Button: The old button was for me best in the business as far as travel and tactile feel are concerned. The new button is better… mainly because it is less mushy. It is the best button among all the lights I have (and Convoy’s side button the worst).
  2. Parasitic drain is ok. Not crazy like TS21.
  3. New TS30S Pro does feel a little bigger than 1st gen TS30S; a little top heavy. A little more awkward in comparison. Size, weight, and shape, ie the proportion, of 1st gen remains a lucky/magical decision by Wurkkos.

Concerning the throw, although I got 1030m for first gen TS30S, it was after many, many tries. Throw measurements give a range of results, and 1030m was the very highest in that range for first gen. In contrast, with TS30S Pro, 1125 m was from a casual first attempt, WITHOUT AR lens. So the difference is probably larger than the numbers indicate.

But … but … what about the free gifts? Hahahaha. I saw a photo on Reddit showing a diffuser that’s way too small and a holster that might fit a Swiss army knife.

Oh, and hey, since the throw is obviously better: Maybe I’ll get the same results running a Wurkkos battery in the Pro as you did with your hotrod Samsung 40T in the regular!!! Yeah baby! :laughing:

:slightly_smiling_face: :+1: The Wurkkos battery is a good inexpensive battery but can’t compete with 40T . TS Pro may not survive that disadvantage.


From 1st gen TS30S testing:
Stock Wurkkos Battery ~3980 lm
With AR lens ~4090 lm (~3% gain)
With AR Lens + Samsung 40T ~4750 lm (11-16% gain from battery alone - confirmed by numerous measurements w/ my TA lumen tube)

Just received mine. Am rather annoyed at the joke of a holster and diffuser. Both are waaay too small to use. Pretty obnoxious, if you ask me.

With daylight saving time coming, I hurried to take out both lights for a shoot out. This is the most important test for me, not white wall hunting but actual use “in real life.”

I could now imagine Wurkkos’s good will: to create something that’s an “improvement” over the incredibly successful TS30S. And what’s the only way to improve a thrower? Make it throw further!

So yes they’ve done it. Particularly at 50 yards and beyond and especially in Turbo, the Pro has a piercing hotspot that is distinctly brighter than 1st gen. The improvement took me by surprise, considering measurements of throw was only about 100 meter different.

But we know the flashlight hobby frequently involves tradeoff, and the tradeoff in this case is area of illumination. Whereas TS30S Pro illuminates one tree, TS30S 1st gen illuminates that tree, and the one next to it. I plan/hope to show this with same beamshots of the hill in front of my house.

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Ha-ha, you get what you pay for, right? I ordered from Ali, where there IS no free gift action, but the deal was cheapest. I actually messaged and asked for the possibility of a free gift of a diffuser if they had one. They replied saying they didn’t have any in stock that would fit it, just smaller ones – so they do know exactly what they’re sending folks. Instead, they offered to send me “a big case” as a gift. I have no idea what that might be, nor did I ask, but I’m quite curious for it to arrive, lol. Probably another Swiss army knife holster, heh.

They didn’t actually say it would fit :grin:
Could probably cut a hole in the bottom and would fit good

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The hot spot on a wall about 20ft away has a darker middle with a brighter ring is this normal?

You meant like that area that maukka labels hotspot 2 in the picture below? Hotspot has two parts: the center is very lightly colored (not dark, actually intensely bright) and surrounded by a white rim.

I have 4 lights with Smooth reflector and they all have this pattern. It is much less obvious with Orange Peel reflector, as in maukka’s shot. Among the 4 lights I have, it is most prominent in the Pro. I’ll post my white wall beamshot later that should show this.

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Fired up my XinTD. The center was also lightly colored :grinning: Just more pronounce in the TS30S Pro Looking forward to you beamshoots

My Nitecore MH12S has this pattern and I became more at peace when I saw the same thing on Nitecore’s site “anatomy of a flashlight beam” :yum: . It’s been discussed here on BLF; most easily seen on throwers with smooth reflectors. Orange peel takes care of it.

The beam on TS30S Pro is CRAZY intense against dark background (anatomy of a super thrower) and yes it does highlight this.