Test / Review: Sony SE US26650VT 2600mAh (Green)

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Test / Review: Sony SE US26650VT 2600mAh (Green)

Sony SE US26650VT 2600mAh (Green)

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Official specifications:

  • Voltage : 3.7v
  • Capacity : 2600mAh (Min 2500mAh)
  • Max Discharge Rate : 50A
  • Charging Rate : 20C
  • Size : 26 x 65mm
  • Weight : 88g


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This battery is a very high current battery, but with low capacity.

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The battery is rated for 50A, I did only test up to 30A, but looking at the curves I would say it is a good idea to stay below 20A, because it has nearly full capacity at that current.
The voltage from this battery is very high for a 4.2 volt LiIon cell.

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When doing these high currents, it is also very interesting to look at the runtime, it is very short. At 15A it is only about 10 minutes.

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Conclusion

This is a very good battery, but mostly for people that need 10A or more. For lower current a 18650 battery can be nearly as good and is much smaller.



Notes and links

How is the test done and how to read the charts
How is a protected LiIon battery constructed
More about button top and flat top batteries

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Thanks for the review.

Could you please explain what you meant by this:

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I would say it is a good idea to stay below 20A, because it has nearly full capacity at that current.

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ryansoh3 wrote:
Thanks for the review. Could you please explain what you meant by this:
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I would say it is a good idea to stay below 20A, because it has nearly full capacity at that current.

The 30A curve has considerable less capacity and voltage, than the 20A curve.

The battery is rated for 50A, but that might be for intermittent usage.

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Thanks for the clarification.

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Thanks a lot for the review! Frontpage’d and Sticky’d.

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Thanks for the review.. This is a really interesting battery. Smile

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HKJ,

Once again great review.  Very useful info.    Do you happen to know how to decipher the manufacturing date code on this cell?

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Do you happen to know how to decipher the manufacturing date code on this cell?

No, but if anybody do, please post it here.

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a year ago in my thread someone posted this

arztt wrote:

The Sonys are 2600mAh

on Sony lithium ion cells look at the first two digits in the second row.

8A = 2600mAh

G7= 2400mAh

G6, 6A, 6B= 2200mAh

G5= 2150mAh

G4= 1950mAh

The last 5 digits of that row tell the manufacturing date.

digit 1: year. Q=2008, R=2009, S=2010 and so on

digit 2: month. A=Jan, B=Feb, …J= Oct

digit 3+4: day

digit 5: electrode history

so the cell on the photo was produced on Oct 29, 2008 (QJ29)

 

Going by this these cells (QB12BW) in the picture would be produced on 2008, February 12

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6$ per piece in a lot of 4,free shipping:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Li-ion-26650-3-7V-2600mAh-R...

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led4power wrote:
6$ per piece in a lot of 4,free shipping: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Li-ion-26650-3-7V-2600mAh-R... Off topic:Does anyone know date codes for LG cells?

Crap, that's cheap! I got qty 3 for $12.50 each from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-SE-US26650VT-26650-50A-20C-Li-ion-2600mAh-Rechargeable-Battery-x1-/330942130309. Maybe these are "brand new"?

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I’m not surprised they’re so cheap,practically all 26650 cells are for some reason abandoned,and high power 18650 dominate in power tools these days. Code says these are also 2008,so it’s probably cheaper for manufacturers to sell new old stock cells that nobody wants for 1$,than pay for recycling.

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Really hard to beat the KK ICR 4000 or 4200 for performance and capacity - I'm getting a measured 4.55 amps on a XinTD X3 off a KK ICR 4200 which is right there at the 4.56A configured with 12 380 7135's. I got a MOLI coming in today, and we'll see with these SONY's.

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I have use this battery in one mod and it appears to have more internal resistance than the aw 18650imr 1600mah

is very hard to get more than 20 amp with this 26650 fullcharged and 9xm-l in paralel |(

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moviles2 wrote:
I have use this battery in one mod and it appears to have more internal resistance than the aw 18650imr 1600mah is very hard to get more than 20 amp with this 26650 fullcharged and 9xm-l in paralel |(

Lol.. Nice light...

I understand you live your life a 26650 at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the heat issues, not the runtime and all that bullshit. For those ten minutes or less, you`re free.

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maybe this is the best 26650 for 10-30 amp

but I want one 26650 with lower internal resistance than the aw18650imr

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moviles2 wrote:
maybe this is the best 26650 for 10-30 amp but I want one 26650 with lower internal resistance than the aw18650imr !http://www.forolinternas.com/images/smilies/sisi3.gif![/quote]

Dunno - I tried one of these SONY's in a XinTD X3 mod'd to 4.56A with an XM-L2 U2/Noctigon and actually got 4.56A measured, so it match's or slightly exceed a KK ICR, and blows away a MNKE IMR 26650. I think it would match a Samsung 20R as well - will test it. I have an AW 18650 IMR 2000 and this SONY cell easily beats it.

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At 5A, voltage is higher, but by huge margin. 

At 10A they are considerably better than KK.  At 15A they have similar voltage drop as KK on 10A. J) (No graph for KK at 15A)

I was supposed to buy KK, but then I saw these cheap from WB (promotion), so picked up a few..  0:)

Looking forward to see what they are capable of. Runtime is overrated.. Big Smile

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My question is: Is this better and more worth it for 26650 applications than a Samsung R or other high discharge battery?

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Rusty Joe wrote:
My question is: Is this better and more worth it for 26650 applications than a Samsung R or other high discharge battery?

The comparator shows just a bit more sag for 26650 in the beginning, but holds voltage much better later on in applications 3A+.

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Is there a link where they are currently in stock? I can’t find them anywhere.

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Rusty Joe wrote:
Is there a link where they are currently in stock? I can't find them anywhere.

Keep in mind the low capacity of these - 2600 mAh. Powerizers are lower resistance (can crank out more amps) and higher capacity at 3600 mAh, though not tested by HKJ. No blame there, just no one sent him cells to test.

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33696933 wrote:
a year ago in my thread someone posted this
arztt wrote:

The Sonys are 2600mAh

on Sony lithium ion cells look at the first two digits in the second row.

8A = 2600mAh

G7= 2400mAh

G6, 6A, 6B= 2200mAh

G5= 2150mAh

G4= 1950mAh

The last 5 digits of that row tell the manufacturing date.

digit 1: year. Q=2008, R=2009, S=2010 and so on

digit 2: month. A=Jan, B=Feb, ...J= Oct

digit 3+4: day

digit 5: electrode history

so the cell on the photo was produced on Oct 29, 2008 (QJ29)

 

Going by this these cells (QB12BW) in the picture would be produced on 2008, February 12

 

Does anyone know if this is accurate? I just received some 26650VTs and they have a white sticker label over the printing... Like a lot of photo's of the VTC5 I have seen around.

I peeled back the label and it is printed: "T C111GQB12W" Just like the ones from this old post.. I really hope I didn't get some old cells. But I am guessing that is in fact what happened. Yell