a new EDC light of 2017- JAXMAN E2L

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jaxman wrote:
hi you can heat the head to about 100 。C.

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I did reflow new leds by just heating up the whole head with the ledboard in place, but I did not check if the glue gets soft enough to remove above 100degC. I may try that next time Smile

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that is no problem

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E2L now have high CRI led selections, Nichia 219C, Ra=9050

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it has been more than 1 year that E2L was firstly sell…

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And it is still the best host for triple led

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Jaxman, what do you think about new version of E2L – with 20700/21700 (18650 with adapter) battery, 20×7mm dc-dc driver ?

Flashlights : custom (Jaxman E2L with led4power LD-4 drivers and 3xOsram CQAR.CC), custom Skillhunt H03 with Osram 3К/4К, Zebralight {H600fc IV, Sc600fc IV, H600fc III}, Jaxman E2(N219b), Convoy UV.
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That would be awesome.

I would buy one too Big Smile

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Evgeniy wrote:
Jaxman, what do you think about new version of E2L – with 20700/21700?

Yes I’m ready to send my money! Big SmileThumbs Up

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Absolutely, count me in (as if I don’t already have more than enough lights…). Big Smile

The current E2L has the optics partially eclipsed around the edges. With a slightly bigger diameter, the optics would be a perfect fit.

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oh,it seems that much of BLF guys do not like our power setting on this light. you need very hot driver such as BLF directly fet+pwm 7135 driver?
Our E2L is powered by a 2A current, then I have feel it is very hot after 5 minutes working on high mode…
with a FET mode,4A or much big power,I cant think about it…

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Me personally, 2A or even 3A is nice and bright for a tubelight with single emitter. A triple should be a little more efficient per LED, even though they sum together to dissipate the same power.

A tubelight can only dissipate so much power, not like a bigger light with lots of angry fins sticking out. I wouldn’t worry about cranking up the current.

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jaxman wrote:
oh,it seems that much of BLF guys do not like our power setting on this light. you need very hot driver such as BLF directly fet+pwm 7135 driver? Our E2L is powered by a 2A current, then I have feel it is very hot after 5 minutes working on high mode… with a FET mode,4A or much big power,I cant think about it…

Although I have reviewed dozens of lights, your E2L remains one of my favorites. I have paired it with a BLF 17DDL driver and that’s probably another reason why I like it.

Even though the flashlight can’t sustain the full FET current for long , it’s always pleasant to know that you have this kind of power available to you.

@jaxman Do consider making a stock triple with a FET driver…!

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20700 is not a battery that easy to get. and the size will be much larger than present.
And I am worry about the over-hot hurt to the user and the battery risk is increase if the power is big enough.

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in fact I have made some FET driver verison to one of our OEM customers.
I do not dare to write JAXMAN to a FET driver flashlight..I am worry about..
so I decide to sell host to you… you can diy it your self….

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Yes, I do not want a FET driver in such a small light. It would get too hot, and it is dangerous for not us users.

Boosting the current to 2.8A, and adding a 1lm moonlight mode would make your light even better.

Or maybe just add a 1lm moonlight mode if it is possible and perhaps use new 4000k Samsung LH351Ds, that are more efficient than Nichia 219C 4000k.

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Yes, I do not want a FET driver in such a small light. It would get too hot, and it is dangerous for not us users.

Agreed. To feed a triple/quad with FET, currents can be uncontrollably high, which is not desirable for this host (with the current head size) – and also it would limit emitter selection regarding current / Vf characteristics.

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Many new drivers have thermal management, if not then at minimum there is a short burst timeout to keep things from overheating. Makes for a very nice light…

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I would buy a 21700 host, that would be great. Just make sure the head will fit a 20mm triple or quad board without sanding…

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I think a larger version of E2L would be welcomed. I see it like this:
E2XL – 21700, quad carclo, 20mm driver
E2XXL – 26650, quad or triple noctigon (xp32 or new 4xp), 22mm driver

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jaxman wrote:
oh,it seems that much of BLF guys do not like our power setting on this light. you need very hot driver such as BLF directly fet+pwm 7135 driver?

No.

18650 is perfect batteries,

but 20700 battery simply has 23% more capacity,
https://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Sanyo%20NCR20700B%204000mAh%20(Red)%20UK.html
https://eu.nkon.nl/review/product/list/id/2363/ .
For 21700 – up to +35% more capacity .

And sizes will be increased very slightly, for few mm.

driver ? I wrote about host for new E2L, currently I use 2 E2L with LD-4 (linear) drivers . If new host will have more space for driver, for example 20×7mm, we can install 20mm drivers, and very efficient DC-DC drivers too.

Flashlights : custom (Jaxman E2L with led4power LD-4 drivers and 3xOsram CQAR.CC), custom Skillhunt H03 with Osram 3К/4К, Zebralight {H600fc IV, Sc600fc IV, H600fc III}, Jaxman E2(N219b), Convoy UV.
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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
I think a larger version of E2L would be welcomed. I see it like this: E2XL – 21700, quad carclo, 20mm driver

“E2XL – 21700, quad carclo, 20mm driver”

I think, it will be nice flashlight.

Chatika vas Paus wrote:
E2XXL – 26650, quad or triple noctigon (xp32 or new 4xp), 22mm driver

Currently 20700 and 21700 produced by 1st class manufacturers, such as Sanyo / Panasonic, Samsung, etc.
But 26650 produced only by 2nd-3rd class manufacturers .

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how come u dont sell these on banggood ? thats the only place i buy my lights now. would like one but not from ali and the lame shipping options…

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Banggood had made a copy of JAXMAN Z1 flashlight. The company who helped Banggood to copy Z1 is MANKER. And MANKER is only a dealer, MANKER found a fatory, to copy Z1 for Banggood. Angry

So we cancelled all corporation with Banggood. They are a rubbish company, they even called the copy as a JAXMAN flashlight.

Banggdood have asked us to sell flashlights to them for a few times, but we refused. We would not like to make business with a thief. We dislike thire money, either. Ever, never.

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Ok wut.

They actually copied your flashlight, and then sold it in your name?

Wow. That is rubbish AF as you said.

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Yes, Banggood was our distributor at first. They sold our flashlights included Z1. When they buy the copy “Z1” from MANKER, they still sold copy as JAXMAN’s brand on their website.

And even worse, MANKER known JAXMAN products, and they made the copy at last. So, I think MANKER also is a rubbish company. They take money as the first important thing.

That is all.

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I think I’m going to side with Jaxman on this. I have not had a single problem with Jaxman products, and I’ve had a few issues with Manker ones. I’ll pick Jaxman any day. The Jaxman Z1, and E2L lights are fantastic!

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Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x6 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light

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jaxman wrote:
Banggood had made a copy of JAXMAN Z1 flashlight. The company who helped Banggood to copy Z1 is MANKER. And MANKER is only a dealer, MANKER found a fatory, to copy Z1 for Banggood. Angry So we cancelled all corporation with Banggood. They are a rubbish company, they even called the copy as a JAXMAN flashlight. Banggdood have asked us to sell flashlights to them for a few times, but we refused. We would not like to make business with a thief. We dislike thire money, either. Ever, never.

I think, it’s right decision.

(I stopped buy in Banggood 2 years ago.)

Flashlights : custom (Jaxman E2L with led4power LD-4 drivers and 3xOsram CQAR.CC), custom Skillhunt H03 with Osram 3К/4К, Zebralight {H600fc IV, Sc600fc IV, H600fc III}, Jaxman E2(N219b), Convoy UV.
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jaxman wrote:
Yes, Banggood was our distributor at first. They sold our flashlights included Z1. When they buy the copy “Z1” from MANKER, they still sold copy as JAXMAN’s brand on their website.

And even worse, MANKER known JAXMAN products, and they made the copy at last. So, I think MANKER also is a rubbish company. They take money as the first important thing.

That is all.

And I’ve already put money away on MK34… But they won’t get them!

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