The BLF GT70 "Giggle Monster" is coming! 7,500lumens, 1,500m throw!

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The BLF GT70 "Giggle Monster" is coming! 7,500lumens, 1,500m throw!

Official Updates will be posted below here with the latest being on top:

  • Updated 7-18-18
  • Next milestone : Sending all the parts for production and waiting for them to be ready
  • Estimated timeline until next milestone : ~3-6 weeks
  • Steps to reach this milestone: It is a waiting game now for the production run to be ready, I will update this with a more exact timeline when I know more.

Update History:

7-18-18 – The Neutral White and Cool White LED’s have been found! I am going to see if a warmer tint could also be made an option but no promises. We will have the option of either:

Cool white 1A 6000k P2 bin XHP70.2
Neutral White 3A 5000k N4 Bin XHP70.2

7-3-18 – We need a minimum of 100 sign ups to get this group buy price, I have no doubt we will reach this many sign ups. We will get further discounts as we get more signups but please do not factor that into your decision to order in case we do not make the next tier.

7-2-18 – Project Giggle Monster is officially going live after more then a Year of pitching the idea! Thanks to those that purchased the prototype lights and proved to lumintop there is a market for this light!

Early 2018 – The BLF GT starts shipping and a NASA research contractor asked me to build them a custom XHP70.2 GT for research testing, Lumintop pays enough attention to help me get the sample prototype parts to make this light for NASA and a few extras.

Early 2017 – I started to pitch the idea of this light to lumintop




Charts thanks to HazG

Hi all,

The Roster is listing anyone that has taken the time to go through the sign-up and survey questions. If you only stated that you wanted something in the Thread and didn’t go through the form, then you are not going to be listed. It would be a nightmare to try and go through the threads to create such a list. I hope that this is clear now.

The last time that we went through the shipping process, the shipments were broken down by the ranges of the sign-up numbers. While I’m not certain if it will be handled in groups this time around, I took the liberty to make the list to help everyone to know where they stood if in the event that it would be approached this way again.

The pie chart is depicting the results of the survey relating to the desired temperature of the emitter. However the chart does have the total Flashlights commitment quantity number and the commitment for the conversion kits in the upper left hand side of the chart.

Last but not least, I created a goal chart of the total GT70 full flashlights being committed to and contrasting that quantity against the quantity discount for said amounts. Once again, I made this “At A Glance Form” for everyone to see our progress.

Please note the date of the charts. If you don’t see your name listed and you did sign-up, then you signed up after I created that particular chart. No worries, I’ll be updating the chart quite often.

Hope the above helps,
HazG

Next Update July 21, 2018

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Project Giggle Monster
After filling out the form below, please also post what you want in the thread
this will be used as a backup list should anything go wrong with the google form. Plus it automatically subscribes you for updates on the project as things progress.

Howdy BLF!

After over a year of trying to get Lumintop to make an XHP70.2 version of the GT they finally got in contact with me this weekend and gave me the official go ahead for the project!

Here is a Great video by VOB showing the results of the mod:

Complete light Group buy Details and pricing

I am told the planned retail Price for the complete light will be $299.99

The group buy pricing will be setup in Tiers depending on how many lights are sold.

  • 1-50 lights = $250
  • 51-100 lights = $240
  • 101-200 lights = $230
  • 201-300 lights = $225
  • 301-400 lights = $220

If we managed to get more then that I could talk to them about further discounts.

Free shipping is included for : USA, CANADA, WEST EUROPE, ASIA
add 20 USD for: Australia, New Zealand, part East Europe (contact Neal to find out about your exact country)
add 40 USD for: Serbia, Ukraine, Uruguay, Crotia, Saudi Arabia, south Africa

The shipping method will be selected by Lumintop to have the best chance of being delivered in a timely fashion.

The sales of the lights will go directly through Lumintops store this time once the sale is active, no more having to mess with paypal transactions in various accounts. This should VASTLY improve the ordering process and mean everyone should get things like tracking numbers much more efficiently.

XHP70.2 + LED + Centering Ring + TA Driver Giggle Monster Conversion Kit Group buy

This conversion kit is another thing I have been pushing, they would prefer not offer this kit at all and only sell complete lights.

It will have all the parts you need to convert your existing BLF GT to a Giggle Monster, Including

12v drop in replacement DTP copper MCPCB
XHP70.2 LED reflowed to the mcpcb
Centering ring
12V Texas Avenger V2 driver

To install the kit you will need to be able to open your GT first (easier said then done in some cases), un-solder 2 wires and then solder 2 more wires to the new mcpcb. When soldering to the mcpcb you will need to turn your iron as hot as it will go in order to get the solder to stick, soldering to mcpcb’s can be difficult depending on the quality of your iron. Soldering is required to install this kit, you have been warned.

Notice: The GT head is VERY VERY tight, make sure you can open your light before ordering. Many people report not being to open their light without damage.

The pricing for the conversion kit is – $55

Additional parts available with this Group buy

These prices are only good if purchased with a GT70
Cell carriers – 1x for $15 2x for $28
Short Tube – $10
Bag, Cap and Strap – $25

To sign up simply fill out the form below and you will get a message when the lights are ready to be ordered

Save your email confirmation! This is how you can edit your order later!

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Why the Giggle Monster was created (besides my plans to take over the world)

While the BLF GT is a fantastic thrower, it only truly comes into it’s stride at very long ranges, ranges pushing what the naked eye can see.

This XHP70.2 version with over 3x the lumens and 3x the hotspot size is another story. It is useful at almost any range. It can light up a tree at ranges as close as 150-200m.

Yet still has the power to throw a beam over 1500m!

This is thanks to using the XHP70.2 LED with over 7,500 lumens compared to the stock GT XHP35 with around ~1800 lumens.

Here is the custom 12V mcpcb used in this light:

In the factory form the XHP70.2 will come with a dome on but by removing the dome you can increase the Lux by almost double!

Here is a picture showing the difference between the stock xhp35 GT and this new XHP70.2 GT:

This light will also be using a new Texas Avenger V2 driver that is specifically designed for this setup. It is running the latest NarsilM 1.3 firmware and includes all the features you know and love including a smooth ramp, thermal control and low voltage protection along with all the other features of Narsil.

Stock XHP35 HI at around ~150m

XHP70.2 with dome on and low battery from a long night of playing testing at ~150m

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Project Giggle Monster specs:

  • LED
    Cree XHP70.2 – Exact model TBD – NW will be available for sure – Optional Cool White is possible depending on poll results
  • Lumens
    ~7,000 lumens – exact LED specs TBD
  • Throw
    ~1,400m+
  • Intensity -
    ~500Kcd+
  • Driver
    12v Texas Avenger V2 capable of over 250w of power
  • Firmware
    Latest NarsilM 1.3 – slightly updated version of the stock GT firmware. It offers 3 primary UI setups:
    - By default the GT is set to use the very intuitive Narsil smooth RAMPING UI. Instant access to TURBO mode is also provided with a double-click.
    - A more conventional discrete level MODE-SET UI is available as an alternative. Any one of 12 pre-defined mode-sets can be selected.
    - MOMENTARY mode is useful for signaling purposes or rapidly/briefly lighting up targets.
  • Batteries
    4x or 8× 18650 cell in Parallel 4x carriers. It works on only 1 carrier, but both (all 8 cells) are recommended
  • Reflector -
    118 mm ID Aluminum
  • Lens -
    Glass with anti-reflective coating
  • Body -
    Aluminum with Type III hard-coat anodizing
  • Tripod socket -
    Standard 1/4 inch threaded (1/4-20 UNC)
  • Button -
    Tactile with back-lit rubber boot
  • Weather-proofing rating -
    Equivalent to IP65, do not immerse in liquids
  • Weight -
    Approximately 1.8 kg without cells
  • Weights According to Hunter1 -
    BLF GT
    with batteries 2273 g (8 × 35E)
    tail-cap 91 g
    one battery holder 64 g (empty)
    one battery 48 g (35E)
    one battery holder 259 g (with 4 × 35E)
    two battery holder 518 g (with 8 × 35E)
    battery tube 285 g
    BLF GT head 1379 g (with screw 1381 g
  • Dimensions -
    135 mm Ø head x 310 mm length
    85mm fin OD at button
    56mm battery tube
    62mm battery cap OD

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Texas Ace Group buy goals

While I ended up in charge of the original giggles project it was not up to my standards in many ways. I intend to use this Group buy as a model for how I want any future group buys I run to go. Now I am not saying it will be perfect but I hope for things to go much more smoothly then the GT group buy.

Goals for my group buys include:

- Clear and accurate descriptions / goals for the item BEFORE announcing. We all saw what happened with the GT when too many details were left to be figured out later. 6 months of a deadlocked project as people got burnt out fighting about things that ultimately didn’t matter. Plus a lot of hurt feelings.

We are a family here, there is no reason to encourage arguments.

- Fast turn around times, My goal is 3 months from start to shipment. – I can’t do another year long, life eating, 80+ hour weeks, hundreds of messages a day group buy.

This does mean that my group buys will be started later in the development cycle and there will not be as much time for people to find out about them but if everyone works together to spread the word it should still allow most everyone to get in on the group buy that wants to while keeping the endless waiting to a minimum. This is not a hard limit of 3 months, just a goal, it could be more, it should be less.

- A sample of the product has been tested before the group buy goes live Preferably by myself. Barring a full sample test at the very least all the individual parts are tested or mundane enough to not need to be tested (like springs for example).

This is to minimize the issues and allow some specs and numbers to be known before people start signing up. I want people to know what they are signing up for with my group buys. Now I am sure over time there will have to be exceptions to this but this is a goal.

- The group buy is for a discount on the product, not first dibs unless otherwise stated – The amount of issues that trying to make sure that the first lights off the line went exclusively to group buy members caused was not worth the hassle, it easily caused 30-50% of the issues in the early days of the GT group buy.

We will still get the majority of the first items off the line of course but it is not exclusive to this group buy. Anyone that wants to pay retail pricing for the product to get it faster from another source is welcome to do so if that option is available.

Some other items worth noting about my Group buys:

- All of the BLF Rules are strictly enforced in my group buys. So no cussing, no fighting, ect…

- Please help your fellow BLF members with questions and educating them as they ask the same things over and over again.

Lets face it, we will hear the same questions hundreds and hundreds of times by the time this thread is over. No complaining about it or just saying “search”. Instead I ask for everyone’s help in educating new comers and helping to answer their questions. Yes there will be a lot of repeat questions, if we spread out the answers among a bunch of us hopefully no one person will go mad answering them.

Remember that when jumping into a long thread it may seem like second nature to those of us in the thread but to new comers they don’t know which way is up. Most do not have the time to read through the thread and figure out what is happening either. Even I generally ask for an update in new to me group buy threads, so I am not going to judge others for doing the same thing.

That said:

- Please help me keep the 1st posts of this thread updated with the latest and most up to date information. It is super easy to forget to update the OP but this is the single most important thing to keep updated.

Only updates that effect the project long term need to be posted in the OP but if anyone sees something that should be added, please let me know. There will be a place for quotes of important information along with pictures, reviews and other information in one of the first posts. Please contact one of the Team members to help us keep it updated.

Also any good pictures or reviews should be posted to the OP as well, so please save them and send them or point them out to a team member!

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The official reservation list

 7-6-18 - We are at 121 total Giggle Monsters reserved right now

 

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This is the first try at using the Google forms for the list managment, it should make things WAY WAY easier for everyone.

Please keep the email confirmation as that is how you can edit your request directly.

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This is the one I have been waiting for.  I filled out the form as follows.

1 x BLF GT70 NW

 

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Nice job T/A! Beer

Signed up….2 Monsters for me in CW! Cool Google E-Mail confirmation Received! Cool

4 Reflectors too “IF” it becomes a reality…

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klrman wrote:

This is the one I have been waiting for.  I filled out the form as follows.


1 x BLF GT70


2 x Battery Carrier


and it would be a huge bonus for me if it came in CW but not a deal breaker.  I’m in all the way.  Thanks for making this a reality for all of us.  Was really hoping it would come alive and cannot believe you just started this thread. 


 

We are still looking for LED’s, we are not sure if we will be going with a single tint for all or 2 tints at this point. I might add an option to the form to get some polling data come to think of it.

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Great job TA.

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TA, just got the email and google forms worked perfectly and recorded everything correctly. 

As far as tint, if it doesn't come in CW, I'll still take whatever is decided is the best tint by you guys.

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klrman wrote:

btw, are  you joking about being a NASA research contractor?  I never know who’s pulling my leg around here 

No, I am not a NASA researcher by any means but I have been working with a NASA research contractor since early this year. They have 3 or 4 GT’s now in various tints and setups, including the first XHP70.2 prototype I made where they requested a 3000k dedomed XHP70.2 be installed for maximum real world throw.

There is a quote in the old GT thread where they measured the GT with official measurement gear and gave it a thumbs up.

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My LED Test series - XP-L2 V5  - Nichia 219C 90+ CRILatticebright "XM-L"XHP35 & PWM efficiency - XHP50 - XP-L V5 - XM-L2 U2 - XP-G3 S5  - XP-L HI V2 - Oslon Square & direct comparison to Djozz tests - Nichia 319A - Nichia 219B 9080 CRI - Nichia 219C D320 - Nichia 229AT - XHP70.2 P2 - XHP50.2 J4 - Samsung LH351D

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KawiBoy1428 wrote:
Nice job T/A! Beer Signed up….2 Monsters for me! Cool Google E-Mail confirmation Received! Cool
klrman wrote:

TA, just got the email and google forms worked perfectly and recorded everything correctly. 


As far as tint, if it doesn’t come in CW, I’ll still take whatever is decided is the best tint by you guys.

Great, glad it appears to be working!

Everyone, please continue to post your request in the thread after you fill out the form. This will serve as an emergency backup list (ONLY to be used if the google list failed for some reason).

By posting in the thread you will be subscribed as well which will ensure you stay updated with the latest information down the road.

Plus it helps show the interest level of various parts to the public.

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My LED Test series - XP-L2 V5  - Nichia 219C 90+ CRILatticebright "XM-L"XHP35 & PWM efficiency - XHP50 - XP-L V5 - XM-L2 U2 - XP-G3 S5  - XP-L HI V2 - Oslon Square & direct comparison to Djozz tests - Nichia 319A - Nichia 219B 9080 CRI - Nichia 219C D320 - Nichia 229AT - XHP70.2 P2 - XHP50.2 J4 - Samsung LH351D

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Awesome job setting this up! I like the direction of this project and how it is organized.

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2 x BLF GT70

2 x Battery Carrier

NW

30Q’s for each light

awesome and thanks

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klrman wrote:

TA, just got the email and google forms worked perfectly and recorded everything correctly. 


As far as tint, if it doesn’t come in CW, I’ll still take whatever is decided is the best tint by you guys.

Would you mind using the link in your email to edit your reservation and let me know if you see the new poll questions I added?

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My LED Test series - XP-L2 V5  - Nichia 219C 90+ CRILatticebright "XM-L"XHP35 & PWM efficiency - XHP50 - XP-L V5 - XM-L2 U2 - XP-G3 S5  - XP-L HI V2 - Oslon Square & direct comparison to Djozz tests - Nichia 319A - Nichia 219B 9080 CRI - Nichia 219C D320 - Nichia 229AT - XHP70.2 P2 - XHP50.2 J4 - Samsung LH351D

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Any chance of buying just the MPCB? Will Lumintop offer some sort of threaded ring to attach the 2 “cell” carrier to the 1 “cell carrier and have a 3 “cell” carrier with extended runtime?

Thanks!
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klrman wrote:

TA, just got the email and google forms worked perfectly and recorded everything correctly. 


As far as tint, if it doesn’t come in CW, I’ll still take whatever is decided is the best tint by you guys.

Would you mind using the link in your email to edit your reservation and let me know if you see the new poll questions I added?


Yep it works! Tint – Option 1- Extra Reflector- Extra Lens

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AlexGT wrote:
Any chance of buying just the MPCB? Will Lumintop offer some sort of threaded ring to attach the 2 “cell” carrier to the 1 “cell carrier and have a 3 “cell” carrier with extended runtime?

Thanks!
AlexGT.

It was hard enough to talk them into offering the conversion kits, they REALLY didn’t want to. I kind of doubt they will offer just the mcpcb even though I had hoped they would.

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My LED Test series - XP-L2 V5  - Nichia 219C 90+ CRILatticebright "XM-L"XHP35 & PWM efficiency - XHP50 - XP-L V5 - XM-L2 U2 - XP-G3 S5  - XP-L HI V2 - Oslon Square & direct comparison to Djozz tests - Nichia 319A - Nichia 219B 9080 CRI - Nichia 219C D320 - Nichia 229AT - XHP70.2 P2 - XHP50.2 J4 - Samsung LH351D

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klrman wrote:

TA, just got the email and google forms worked perfectly and recorded everything correctly. 


As far as tint, if it doesn’t come in CW, I’ll still take whatever is decided is the best tint by you guys.

Would you mind using the link in your email to edit your reservation and let me know if you see the new poll questions I added?


Yep it works! Tint – Option 1- Extra Reflector- Extra Lens

Great!

So everyone hold onto your confirmation emails, never know when we might add another option.

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My LED Test series - XP-L2 V5  - Nichia 219C 90+ CRILatticebright "XM-L"XHP35 & PWM efficiency - XHP50 - XP-L V5 - XM-L2 U2 - XP-G3 S5  - XP-L HI V2 - Oslon Square & direct comparison to Djozz tests - Nichia 319A - Nichia 219B 9080 CRI - Nichia 219C D320 - Nichia 229AT - XHP70.2 P2 - XHP50.2 J4 - Samsung LH351D

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Interested in 1. Thanks

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klrman wrote:

TA, just got the email and google forms worked perfectly and recorded everything correctly. 

As far as tint, if it doesn't come in CW, I'll still take whatever is decided is the best tint by you guys.

Would you mind using the link in your email to edit your reservation and let me know if you see the new poll questions I added?

 

Mine worked too and I received the updated email as confirmation.

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Interested in two CW.

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Interested in two CW.

Great, the Forms are working great so far it looks like, I have not seen anyone missed yet and it is SOOOOOO much easier.

This would of literally saved the team hundreds of hours on the last group buy.

Just to be clear, the poll in the form is simply a poll.

The plan is for a Neutral white LED but if enough interest is shown we can try to also find a Cool white LED as well as an option.

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Interested in two CW.

Just to be clear, the poll in the form is simply a poll.

The plan is for a Neutral white LED but if enough interest is shown we can try to also find a Cool white LED as well as an option.

Yes sir. I understand.. I think CW is still popular.. probably 3 to 1.

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Also if there is anything else people would like to see offered in this group buy, let me know and I will add it to the polls.

I know Neal is going to offer some 30Q cells but not sure on price yet.

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Completed poll , interested in 1 (one) neutral white. Afraid I will have lights coming out of my ears soon.

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I am looking for some pictures to put in the polls, if anyone has one of these or knows of a good one, please let me know.

the GT reflector by itself
The GT lens by itself
Anything else you think should be offered with this group buy

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Texas_Ace wrote:
Also if there is anything else people would like to see offered in this group buy, let me know and I will add it to the polls.

I know Neal is going to offer some 30Q cells but not sure on price yet.

I have been looking for a tri-pod mount..

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