Review: Trustfire Mini-01

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I broke down and ordered one from the eBay seller. I think it was $14.40 shipped. Anyone else buy from him? If so, how long to receive?

was it from trading_one?

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JohnnyMac wrote:
I broke down and ordered one from the eBay seller. I think it was $14.40 shipped. Anyone else buy from him? If so, how long to receive?

was it from trading_one?

Mine was from trading_one. Took 3-4 weeks to Ireland.

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I broke down and ordered one from the eBay seller. I think it was $14.40 shipped. Anyone else buy from him? If so, how long to receive?

was it from trading_one?

Mine was from trading_one. Took 3-4 weeks to Ireland.


3 – 4 weeks delivery is nothing but painful for us flashaholics!!
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mags wrote:
JohnnyMac wrote:
I broke down and ordered one from the eBay seller. I think it was $14.40 shipped. Anyone else buy from him? If so, how long to receive?

was it from trading_one?


It was rray009. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11400.m1842.l3160/7?euid=d51979e878c44474...
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JohnnyMac wrote:
I broke down and ordered one from the eBay seller. I think it was $14.40 shipped. Anyone else buy from him? If so, how long to receive?

was it from trading_one?

Mine was from trading_one. Took 3-4 weeks to Ireland.


3 – 4 weeks delivery is nothing but painful for us flashaholics!!

It sure is Big Smile

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Mine was ordered from trading_one also. The long wait is indeed torture.

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mine only draws 1.08 Amps on high , and 0.24 Amps on low , on a freshly new charged Trustfire Flame 16340 …and I’ve also connected a new Hi-Max 18650, 2600 mAh to the mini-01 , and the same thing , it draws around 1 – 1.05 Amps on high …

I can’t complain because it’s a lot of light for this little thingie … but it would have been nice to have a tiny monster, with double the output…

So , the question is…only mine draws ~ 1 Amp on high ?

Think twice, act fast! 

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mine only draws 1.08 Amps on high , and 0.24 Amps on low , on a freshly new charged Trustfire Flame 16340 …and I’ve also connected a new Hi-Max 18650, 2600 mAh to the mini-01 , and the same thing , it draws around 1 – 1.05 Amps on high …

I can’t complain because it’s a lot of light for this little thingie … but it would have been nice to have a tiny monster, with double the output…

So , the question is…only mine draws ~ 1 Amp on high ?

How do I go about testing the current draw of my mini-01? I have a multimeter.

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MattSPL wrote:
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mine only draws 1.08 Amps on high , and 0.24 Amps on low , on a freshly new charged Trustfire Flame 16340 …and I’ve also connected a new Hi-Max 18650, 2600 mAh to the mini-01 , and the same thing , it draws around 1 – 1.05 Amps on high …

I can’t complain because it’s a lot of light for this little thingie … but it would have been nice to have a tiny monster, with double the output…

So , the question is…only mine draws ~ 1 Amp on high ?

How do I go about testing the current draw of my mini-01? I have a multimeter.

Cheers
Matt

Hi Matt!

It’s very easy , set the DMM like in the picture, hold the head of the flashlight , put the 16340 (RCR123A – CR123A) in , connect the black lead to the flat end of the battery (-) , and slide the red lead between the body and the battery to touch the outer ring of the flashlights circuit board, and that’s it , the DMM should show you how much Amps does you’re flashlight draw…

Think twice, act fast! 

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Thanks for the help, I’ll give it a go and post my results.

Cheers
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Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:

Edit: I have just tested the Mini-01’s current draw on 2 different 18650 cells.

Senybor 3100mAh(Panasonic) protected – Low 0.27A, High 2.55A

Panasonic GCR18650CH – Low 0.30A, High 2.9A

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MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:


Thank you Matt for the readings… it seems that I have a faulty one.
hmmm…

Anyone else has a mini-01 that draws only 1 Amps in High mode on 16340 ?

Think twice, act fast! 

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JustFit wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:


Thank you Matt for the readings… it seems that I have a faulty one.
hmmm…

Anyone else has a mini-01 that draws only 1 Amps in High mode on 16340 ?

Is it possible that the Trustfire flame isn’t capable of delivering any more current, rather than the light being faulty, because your readings are very similar to mine, except for the Yezl cell?

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MattSPL wrote:
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MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:


Thank you Matt for the readings… it seems that I have a faulty one.
hmmm…

Anyone else has a mini-01 that draws only 1 Amps in High mode on 16340 ?

Is it possible that the Trustfire flame isn’t capable of delivering any more current, rather than the light being faulty, because your readings are very similar to mine, except for the Yezl cell?

yeah, but don’t forget that trustfire flame is 4.2 fully charged , and I’ve also tested the mini-01 with Hi-Max 18650 cells which deliver a good 5 Amps on my Trustfire TR-J12 …

Think twice, act fast! 

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Yeah not sure to be honest. Have you any other cells to try?

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I get
.08 and .85 on the original Trustfire CR123A
.11 and .98 on SOshine RCR-123 protected.

But my cheap DMM leads read low compared with better wire..
I need to make up some better leads.

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Suncoaster wrote:
I get
.08 and .85 on the original Trustfire CR123A
.11 and .98 on SOshine RCR-123 protected.

But my cheap DMM leads read low compared with better wire..
I need to make up some better leads.

Thanks for testing your Mini-01.
Hopefully some other people can test theirs too.

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Nice! Any way of posting some beam shots or perhaps a video?

Thanks man. Unfortunately the only camera I got is the one on my phone.. tried last night but it came out too crappy Sad

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MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:

Nice.. got to get me some of that hand burning goodness for these winter nights Smile

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Glad I picked up the Yetzl cells…

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alex21 wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:

Nice.. got to get me some of that hand burning goodness for these winter nights Smile

Big Smile

Now i just need to get hold of an AW IMR 16340. That should be really fun :bigsmile:

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Big Smile

Now i just need to get hold of an AW IMR 16340. That should be really fun :bigsmile:

Good one. Should be interesting J)

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MattSPL wrote:
alex21 wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:

Nice.. got to get me some of that hand burning goodness for these winter nights Smile

Big Smile

Now i just need to get hold of an AW IMR 16340. That should be really fun :bigsmile:

Is the AW IMR better than the Yetzl? By how much?

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mags wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
alex21 wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:

Nice.. got to get me some of that hand burning goodness for these winter nights Smile

Big Smile

Now i just need to get hold of an AW IMR 16340. That should be really fun :bigsmile:

Is the AW IMR better than the Yetzl? By how much?

I don’t know enough about flashlights and batteries to give a definite answer, but this is what i think: I bought the Yezl 16340 because it has the highest tested capacity ive seen, and it is rated to handle upto 3.2A discharge, which, from what i can tell, is very good for a 16340 cell.
The AW IMR 16340 is capable of 4.4A max discharge, but will also have a much lower internal resistance due to design and lack of any protection circuit. This means it will perform better in a light that needs high current delivery, especially a direct drive light like the Mini-01 seems to be.
So in theory, the AW IMR 16340 should make the Mini-01 even brighter. You would just have to take care not to let the IMR discharge below 2.5v(as it has no protection circuit), or it will shorten cell life.

Cheers
Matt

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MattSPL wrote:
mags wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
alex21 wrote:
MattSPL wrote:
Here’s my current draw results for the Mini-01

Trustfire primary – Low 0.08A, High 0.8A

Surefire primary – Low 0.06A, High 0.75A

Ultracell 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.1A, High 1A

AW 3.2v LifeP04 – Low 0.13A, High 1.09A

Yezl 3.7v 16340 – Low 0.25A, High 2.4A

This explains the brightness and hand burning heat when using the Yezl cell :bigsmile:

Nice.. got to get me some of that hand burning goodness for these winter nights Smile

Big Smile

Now i just need to get hold of an AW IMR 16340. That should be really fun :bigsmile:

Is the AW IMR better than the Yetzl? By how much?

I don’t know enough about flashlights and batteries to give a definite answer, but this is what i think: I bought the Yezl 16340 because it has the highest tested capacity ive seen, and it is rated to handle upto 3.2A discharge, which, from what i can tell, is very good for a 16340 cell.
The AW IMR 16340 is capable of 4.4A max discharge, but will also have a much lower internal resistance due to design and lack of any protection circuit. This means it will perform better in a light that needs high current delivery, especially a direct drive light like the Mini-01 seems to be.
So in theory, the AW IMR 16340 should make the Mini-01 even brighter. You would just have to take care not to let the IMR discharge below 2.5v(as it has no protection circuit), or it will shorten cell life.

Cheers
Matt

Thanks Matt

http://www.oveready.com/batteries-chargers/aw-imr-16340-rechargeable-bat...

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As soon as mine arrives I will post figures using my TF flames as well as OTF lumens in my IS.

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Flames work fine in mine. They’re from DX.

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As soon as mine arrives I will post figures using my TF flames as well as OTF lumens in my IS.

Thanks Smile

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Yes, the Trustfire flames 880mAh seem to be a good 16340 also. Torchythebatteryboy tested them as having 658mAh capacity at 1A discharge.

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So I heard it last 6-8 minutes on high. How much do i get with these AW & Yezl cells?

Don wrote:
It sounds like the XM LEDs won’t really be suitable for flashlight use. Pity…

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