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How did you use the S2200 to light up the shots?

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Haterade wrote:
I know they are not really that similar, but would like to see beamshot comparo of some of these MTGs vs TK75.

I don't really have anywhere with the space to truly let these lights stretch their legs, but I'll try with the 7G10 tonight if the weather is good.

To me, they are somewhat similar, although, the TK75 wins out both in power and throw by a wide margin.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/20832?page=1#comment-387490

That MTG2 light has a much smaller reflector, but the huge reflector on the 7G10 really doesn't do as much I expected vs the smaller one on the EA8.

Would please post some comparison beam shots (EA8 mod vs 7G10)?  Maybe also a side by side how big is the 7G10 vs the EA8.

An interesting fact is that all companies say MT-G2 LED, but none mention the bin, not all need to be the top P0.

 

 

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There were a couple threads on the 7g10 around here somewhere….

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Hey guys, you’ll have to bear with me, it’s my first ever review of anything…

Just got mine today, my first impression is this thing is huge! Makes the TK75 and even the TN31 look small, which is surprising considering it supposedly throws better than the S1100 which is based on the same body. To me at least, the size is just a little too big, makes it less likely that it’s the light i’ll pick up most when i need one. It’s the reason I skipped on the BTU Shocker, not that this is as big or heavy as that beast :D. This is my major gripe with the light which i should have looked up before buying, more on that later. My one other issue is the modes. While i love the fact the strobe is hidden, I wish it had more than a low>med>hi, just feel it could have done with one or two more as the low just isn’t low enough. I also would have preferred if there was a standby mode in there, instead of having to turn off at the hard to reach tail switch every time.

Build quality is just spectacular, so much better than i was expecting! This is no understatement, it honestly makes the TM26 feel cheap. Besides the lens being a bit grotty out of the box, my example was absolutely flawless. threads are totally smooth and well greased. The knurling is brilliant, provides enough grip while feeling good in the hand. Easily fits longer 18650 cells too, not like TN31 which barely squeezes my Panasonic 3100’s in.

The reflector on this thing is very deep, without measuring it, it seems deeper than the TN31 even. However due to the size of the emitter the throw isn’t what you’d expect for a reflector of this size. What it does provide though, is an amazing beam that to me is a good for general purpose use. Throws quite well and has a great usable spill, but as the old saying goes, jack of all trades, master of none!

Tint is amazing! I don’t have any neutral or warm white lights yet (got an EC25W on the way) and I MUCH prefer the colour of this MT-G2 compared to all of my other lights, by far!!! All I really have to compare it to are XP-G2’s, XM-L U2’s, U3’s and XM-L2 U2’s, but it just seems much warmer and colours much better. However, not sure if it’s a consequence of the warmer tint or not, it just doesn’t seem as bright as I expected. Not that it looks dull, not by a long shot… I was just expecting more. Comparing it to the lights i have by me it seems somewhere in between the TN31 XM-L2 and the TK75, though I feel it’s closer to the former.

As stated earlier my main gripe with the light is it’s size. The tail switch is rather hard to use one handed due to the size of the light, not impossible but it requires a fair stretch of the thumb. To me it’s just past that size that i consider to be easily usable for what it does. I could understand if it was a light that was an amazing thrower or a huge flooder and while it does both well, it does neither exceptionally. If you’re after a big, beautiful all-rounder of exceptional quality for a fairly decent price then this could be for you. However it’s problem is it’s priced a little too close to the TK75 at the moment, and I know which I prefer… If it drops down closer to the current S1100 price then i’d be much more likely to recommend it.

Will try to update with first ever beamshots (so won’t be good) on the weekend, and tailcap readings as soon as my multimeter arrives Smile

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His Dad held the s2200 on him from about 30 yds back. This let me get a much higher shutter for the stop action and gave the more pleasing tones. The camera flash fills at 5700K so is too daylight white a lot of times if you dont use gels.

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thanks for the feedback gavrook Beer

sounds like you need more neutrals + warms bruv! Silly

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His Dad held the s2200 on him from about 30 yds back. This let me get a much higher shutter for the stop action and gave the more pleasing tones. The camera flash fills at 5700K so is too daylight white a lot of times if you dont use gels.

Good job! Im sure Dad will hang that one on the wall.

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yeah those shots are great with that light

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lol, ok, so the storm isn’t here yet…but it is dark and the S2200 does fire up the night. (with lightning flashes in the distance)

Control shot…notice the US flag is lit, but there’s no light visible on the barn.
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The S2200 on Hi, firing up the barn(or at least making it visible) at 607 yards! Smile
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And the same angle as I’ve shown before at 50 yds, but this time at 97 yds. …the red oil drum
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And with this walk on a dark and stormy night, I’ve decided to keep this big chunk of awesomeness! Smile Spot cleared on the shelf, the new King is crowned! (For me, biggest, brightest {with a challenger} best built light I own)

Feel free to click the pic for a larger look in Flickr, the original sized shot (downsized but still large) plainly shows quite a lot of light at over 600 yds and makes anything within 100+ yards easy to shoot at. Good enough for me! >)

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Yep, that neutral tint really makes your pictures come out nice.

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WOW, nice beamshots and nice place.

My dream is live in place like that, without neighbors to annoying me and darkness to shine with my light Big Smile Silly

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To give some perspective to that shot of the barn, the tree on the right is in our field and is 180 yds from the light. The 2 trees that appear to have the barn surrounded are not close to the barn at all, not even on the same property! The tree that is “in front of the flag” is 310 yds from the light (yes, fully 300 yards from the barn) and the tree to the left of the barn is on the opposite side of a driveway from the flag tree and 295 yds from the light.

The shot towards our shed at 97 yards is covering a swath about 36 yards wide in the picture. Virtually a football field with light on it! Smile And no real hot spot visible. That’s a LOT of light!

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pretty impressive. I see more good things coming with this emitter. Smile

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does anyone know how the pwm is on medium/low? if there is any…

the website says “stable current regulated output” does this mean on all modes?

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I know there’s no noise, used it on low walking last night and it’s nice. Med is about like most good P-60 drop-ins, but with excellent color. I’ve got the cells charging but will try to get some info on pwm here directly. I’ve got some alternate cells I can use.

How do you recommend I check that? Ceiling fan? Shower?

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I’m not sure of what I’m seeing, but water flows smooth under Hi beam, there appears to be indentations in the stream (——————) but very very close together in Med and Lo modes. There is no noise. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Ceiling fan shows a smooth stream of light with no strobe effect on any mode.

Edit: inside the parenthesis above is hyphens, the forum makes it a solid line, sorry. The effect I saw is like tenths of a millimeter apart, perhaps even a single .10mm or less…very tight pattern.

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I’m not sure of what I’m seeing, but water flows smooth under Hi beam, there appears to be indentations in the stream (——————) but very very close together in Med and Lo modes. There is no noise. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Ceiling fan shows a smooth stream of light with no strobe effect on any mode.

Edit: inside the parenthesis above is hyphens, the forum makes it a solid line, sorry. The effect I saw is like tenths of a millimeter apart, perhaps even a single .10mm or less…very tight pattern.

sounds like some sort of pwm… i only ask because im sensitive to pwm… i sold my terminator and skyray king because of the low modes having low frequency pwm (around 400-800hz) it makes me nauseous and very dizzy after 2-3 mins

the higher frequencies are ok though… i never have issues with 7135 based drivers (4khz pwm) or nitecore ea4 (high frequency pwm)

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I have tried several 7135 based boards with the shower method and this is much tighter than that, so you should be fine with this one. Just don’t use the Strobe, it’s disorienting to me and I’m never bothered by that! A few seconds of it on the wall and everything gets weird, so it’s quite potent!

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I have tried several 7135 based boards with the shower method and this is much tighter than that, so you should be fine with this one. Just don’t use the Strobe, it’s disorienting to me and I’m never bothered by that! A few seconds of it on the wall and everything gets weird, so it’s quite potent!

ok – it looks like this light is 99% a go… might wait to see what the niwalker is like – but its probably too expensive for me… heck $140 for this thing is pushing it

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I took a couple of shots as well as some video from the car, a 2012 Ford Escape. With the camera on a tripod out the moonroof and the light handheld, here’s a couple of shots of the S2200 overpowering the High Beams of the car.

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I’ll try to figure out how to show video tomorrow. Amazing light, simply amazing.

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nice beamshots! thanks!

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I’m not sure if you get cold nights in Texas, but would you be able test to see if the inside of the lense mists up when switched on in a cold environment?

Most of my high powered lights do this, more so the larger the lense is. But some don’t, due to being sealed in a low humidity environment or some sort of lense coating I assume. It can significantly affect the beam though so it’s quite a big deal for me.

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Amazing we are now in the territory of comparing handheld flashlights to auto headlights.
Shocked

Fantastic. Bring it on. Bring the MTG2 ruckus! J)

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DBCstm wrote:
I took a couple of shots as well as some video from the car, a 2012 Ford Escape.

That’s the old model right? US model years are quite misleading for the rest of the world.
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This pattern is not surprising to me, given the higher forward voltage of the MT-G2 LED. It’s obviously going to be difficult for two 3.7V Li-ion cells (note 2s2p, so only two in series) to provide the kind of regulated power needed to keep perfectly flat regulation at all voltages.
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While the BK-FA01 has tightly regulated performance at all levels, the BK-FA02 shows a direct-drive-like pattern at all levels. Note that direct-drive is actually more efficient, and both lights show a step-down to L2 before the batteries are exhausted.

these are quotes from selfbuilts review on the niwalker, i think i would rather have more constant brightness if possible

also – it doesnt look like the niwalker offers any option for a lanyard – at least in the preproduction model selfbuilt got.

is the output on high on the solarforce better regulated? meaning more constant brightness on high due to the 3s setup?

if this is the case – I am going with the solarforce!

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jmpaul320 wrote:
is the output on high on the solarforce better regulated?

Dude why're you asking questions you already know the answer to? Just buy the thing already!  Party It may not have some of the whiz-bang gimmicks of the others, but what it does, it does correctly. And it's built like a tank. I think it's pretty clear all the alternatives have pretty serious design flaws, or QC issues. Or both.

Current at the emitter (NOT tailcap) stays at 3.28-3.31A from switch on with fresh cells to the time the battery indicator turns red.

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Our 2012 Escape is the last of the old body style. They came out with the Euro version in 2013. Ours was actually made in April of 2012, does that help? I thought it had pretty decent headlights, but they are obviously more the orange color we’re used to from car headlights and not as powerful as I’d thought. (research says Hi beams are ~1100 lumens each.)

Cold nights? In Texas? Oh that’s rich! We made it to 24ºC overnight, I get chilly at that temp but don’t think that counts for what you’re talking about. I could stick it in the deep freeze at 0ºF and see what happens? With the lens sealed, it shouldn’t mist up inside. And yes, I can certainly see how that would be a problem in colder climes.

Sweet answer comfychair, and nice figures on emitter amperage! I did not know that, and now see where they get 2200 lumens from! Wink Thanks

Uploaded video last night but Flickr bonked it. Trying again as we speak. Should be able to get that posted within the hour if all goes well. No accustomed to linking or posting video.

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S2200 is in the deep freeze at 0º F (-17.8C), planning on leaving it there for 15 minutes, then we’ll see. Hope the lens doesn’t shatter when the heat from that humongo emitter kicks in! Yeah, it puts a lot of heat out front, good handwarmer if it’s cold out. Wink

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Yes, the heat projected out the front, even a foot away, is pretty remarkable. Shocked

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comfychair wrote:

jmpaul320 wrote:
is the output on high on the solarforce better regulated?

Dude why’re you asking questions you already know the answer to? Just buy the thing already!  Party It may not have some of the whiz-bang gimmicks of the others, but what it does, it does correctly. And it’s built like a tank. I think it’s pretty clear all the alternatives have pretty serious design flaws, or QC issues. Or both.

Current at the emitter (NOT tailcap) stays at 3.28-3.31A from switch on with fresh cells to the time the battery indicator turns red.

oh i know i know

you win

ordering now lol.

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