Modded bigshots...S2200 vs M8 vs Terminator vs M6 Beamshots

I decided to put my best performers against each other tonight and see how they compared. The base shots for me, 97 yds to the red oil drum. Canon G1X at ISO1600 with f/5.8 on zoomed shots and f/5.6 on wide angle, this time I used .3 sec shutter knowing these are the bright lights. Wide angle is at 28mm, zoomed in is 112mm.

The Solarforce S2200 is making 2657 OTF at 30 seconds on AW Protected 2600mAh 18650’s

The Solarforce M8, with it’s MT-G2 and half pound copper heat sink, is making 4200+ at start and 3600+ at 30 seconds on a pair of Efest 35A 18650’s

The Black Shadow Terminator has had a resistor bump, de-domed XM-L2 U2 1C and uses 4 Panasonic PD cells to make 2726 OTF at 30 seconds.

And the new SupFire M6 has had copper put under it’s 3 XM-L2 U2 1A emitters, 20 ga wires, and a 17mm board now piggybacked in doing the driving on modes with resistors bypassed for direct drive on the 3 FET’s on the stock driver board. It put’s out 4902 at start and a bit over 4600 after 30 seconds.

Gotta love it! :slight_smile: What a massive amount of light from 2 of the smallest in the bunch! The S2200 is impressive still in it’s own right and the M8 is a work of art.

Enjoy!

wow… the terminator is awesome …can you show us the picture of the driver on the M6? :smiley:

After I got it working as I wanted, I potted it with Arctic Alumina Thermal Adhesive, so it’s buried in white and can’t short or jar loose. And for the record, the small red lead from the switch is in the wrong place in this pic, it has to go on pin 3 of the mcu directly, which I did after this shot was taken. :wink:

7 modes, .17, 4.5, 24, 110, 438, 1059, and 4740 from a slightly used set of 25R’s. :slight_smile: And yes, the first lumens number is moon mode at point-one-seven.

Wowy

I was pointing them your way Joe, did you see the glow to the North? lol

The Terminator is going to get new emitters, I don’t care for that green tint.

thanks… that’s awesome… hmm i wonder if i can connect 105C and use their modes? :slight_smile:

Yes, that's the same thing as what DBCStm is doing. Just strip the 7135s and use the PWM out. You still need custom firmware flashed for the eswitch though.

Wow man, incredible. Is that Supfire M6 from RMM?

Actually that purple board is the OSHPark FET board with the ATtiny and controlling hardware, he is using it as a piggyback to bypass the MCU on the stock board and use the ATtiny and custom firmware to run the stock FETS on the stock board

But yes, stripping a 105C is the same thing…

I think comfychair did a TON of work like this on the SRK boards

This is where those teeny tiny 10mm OSHPark boards come in so darn handy! :wink:
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/LO3GPkoN

impressive shots!

Wow!!

Thanx Dale!

Does the M8 have a fully domed or sliced MT-G2 at the moment? It seems to have the least defined hotspot of them all.

That black shadow throws quite good for small reflectors. Very nice lights DBCstm :crown:

I wish I understood electronics/drivers like you guy’s. I can try to mimic stuff I see but I don’t really understand what’s going on. :frowning:

Oooooo, I hadn’t thought of that. I’m gonna need some of those :bigsmile:

Sweet!

A word of caution though.

I am told that at 5000+ lumens you put yourself in imminent danger w the stored oil drums in the yard. :open_mouth:

Wow, nice beamshots!

The oil drum is more visible in the pictures with the Blackshadow then with the M6. Is that because of the light sensitivity that is changed in the camera? Because the M6 should be a hell of a lot brighter.

The M6 is by far the brightest, at 30 seconds it’s pretty easily 1000 lumens stronger than the M8, which is itself over 500 lumens stronger than the Terminator.

BUT, the S2200 and M8 are using the MT-G2 emitter. The Terminator is using DE-DOMED XM-L2’s. Tighter hot spot yielding better throw. This is why I include both a wide angle and a zoomed in pic, notice that the M6 is putting out far more light Everywhere, while the Terminator has it’s light more intense in the center.

With a focused output, we see the main target and tend to ignore the spill…when a super bright light is illuminating the surroundings so much, it might appear to not be as bright overall…just because that huge amount of light is being spread out wider.

I can put my MAXToch SN6X-2X in the mix and the oil drum is lit up like daylight, but not much else is. That’s around 1600 lumens but with 365Kcd the bulk of the output is right down the middle.

This is how I explain the need for so many lights, each one specializes in something, each one fills a niche. :slight_smile: Getting more difficult to do though, with 53+ lights on hand. lol

The S2200 is a honking big light with a massive reflector, a thing of beauty it is. Look at the wide angle shot, click on it to open it in a new window. Then click on the Terminator wide angle shot and click on the M6 wide angle shot. This gives 3 new tabs with each pic screensize. Look how nice the beam profile is on the S2200, then look at the M6…it floods the entire scene! We’re talking an entire football field lit up almost evenly! Very impressive, to spread that level of light across such a broad area.

The S2200 will do it for the longest time though. It’s bumped the least in terms of modding, and will outlast the other 3 hands down. And this is what the manufacturer of the lights has to look at, as well as safety in the hands of virtually anybody…our kids very handily turn a light on high and leave the room, maybe even leave it buried in the toy box with no circulation. The manufacturer has to allow for these kinds of things when they put em together. We, uh, circumvent that safety margin. :slight_smile: At our own risk, of course…

Lothar, the M8 has a fully domed MT-G2 in it. While the reflector is nice, it’s a rare hybrid, it’s got nothing on the S2200.

Yeah, surprises me too how it seems flattest of the 4 lights in the throw category.

Nice lights Dale!

You should do a collection photoshoot! :)