Andúril 2 coming to Sofirn - The general Sofirn development thread

[BurningPlayd0h]

I just don’t see the advantage of dual-switch unless you incorporate novel features of an e-switch like shortcuts, a good ramping UI, etc.

Sure, a side/tail switch light is less likely to turn on in a pocket… but no less than one with just a tail switch.

Its personal preference but not having the option to turn on directly into moonlight/low is an absolute no-go for me on an EDC light too. I can only see the benefits as allowing momentary-on by having a forward clicky and a more manageable UI or using the tail for nothing but turbo like Acebeam and Olight have on some “tactical” lights (those also allow direct access to other modes from the side switch however).

@Lonelydad

It also removes the spectre of parasitic drain. My Nitecore P30 is like that, and the combo works just fine.

So does a single tail switch. Most lights worth buying have parasitic drain lower than the self-discharge of li-ion cells these days anyway.

[Spartan]

@contactcr

I’m not, but SWAT is pretty tactical and you prove my point. A single e-switch or a forward switch is probably more tactical. This fancy dual switch is “tacticool” though, and I don’t have a problem with that. Just dont need to have it on more than 1 or 2 models.

I don’t see ANYWHERE to plug in a coffee maker. Fail.

[Spartan]

Anybody have the Sonfirn SP33 V2? I saw some videos and they called it “floody”

Is that true or “relatively floody”?

A bit large for an pants carry EDC but it has the lumens and the battery to be a pretty good all around light.

[JasonWW]

@Spartan

Anybody have the Sonfirn SP33 V2? I saw some videos and they called it “floody”

Is that true or “realitvly floody”?

A bit large for an pants carry EDC but it has the lumens and the battery to be a pretty good all around light.

Dude, tons of people have it. Check the link in my sig.

It’s got a narrower beam than a 70.2 in a similar sized light. I think it’s great for walking at night and I use it all the time where I work.

[Lightbringer]

@Spartan

I don’t see ANYWHERE to plug in a coffee maker. Fail.

It’s on the opposite side, hidden by the toaster.

[DavidEF]

@Lightbringer

@Spartan

I don’t see ANYWHERE to plug in a coffee maker. Fail.

It’s on the opposite side, hidden by the toaster.

The real fail is that $5 “tacticool” flashlight mounted to the front left. If everything else is made to the quality level of that flashlight, somebody’s gonna hurt themselves. :person_facepalming:

[Spartan]

@JasonWW

@Spartan

Anybody have the Sonfirn SP33 V2? I saw some videos and they called it “floody”

Is that true or “realitvly floody”?

A bit large for an pants carry EDC but it has the lumens and the battery to be a pretty good all around light.

Dude, tons of people have it. Check the link in my sig.

It’s got a narrower beam than a 70.2 in a similar sized light. I think it’s great for walking at night and I use it all the time where I work.

I like the size and the cost isn’t bad. It has an orange peel reflector, a plus.

The 70.s is a floody? Where is the $30, 26650 light?

[JasonWW]

@Spartan

@JasonWW

@Spartan

Anybody have the Sonfirn SP33 V2? I saw some videos and they called it “floody”

Is that true or “realitvly floody”?

A bit large for an pants carry EDC but it has the lumens and the battery to be a pretty good all around light.

Dude, tons of people have it. Check the link in my sig.

It’s got a narrower beam than a 70.2 in a similar sized light. I think it’s great for walking at night and I use it all the time where I work.

I like the size and the cost isn’t bad. It has an orange peel reflector, a plus.

The 70.s is a floody? Where is the $30, 26650 light?

Here is the link to the Sofirn store. Or go to Aliexpress and search for SP33. It’s $22 by itself or $28 with battery and charger.

Lights like the Lumintop ODF30 are the same physical size, but use a 70.2. You can tell the 70.2 hot spot is bigger and more spread out. With the ODF30 I needed higher output, like 1000 lumen, for walking around. With the SP33 I find I only need 600 lumen. The tighter hotspot seems brighter and throws just as far.

[prototype3a]

I think the SP33 is called “floody” by people who like throwy lights. I wouldn’t call it floody.

I would, however, buy a C8F tail cap with no switch and the lanyard lug on the side so it can tail stand instantly.

[Barry0892]

@mihlit

@teacher

A two switch design, tail for ‘ON - OFF’ & side for ‘MODE CHANGE’; is a fantastic way to go.

Agree :+1: That’s the best combination, unfortunately there is only a few FL that offer this.
Would be good if there were flashlights that allow to use both tail cap with a switch and without a switch. You could just buy what you want or change it if you want. From firmware point it would require some changes though.

EDIT: Interestingly, the Skilhunt S3 Pro, that arrived a few minutes ago can do exactly that. It has two switches, but can be turned of by long pressing side switch and turn back on by short press. Just the battery level indicator, that’s on only a few seconds after power on does not work. But I guess that would be an easy fix.

SP31 V2 has two switches and works like that, but seems it is not as popular as SP32A V2

[mihlit]

Barry0892: Thanks for the info, unfortunately I’m a picky flashaholic. I don’t especially like xp-l hi (or any other thrower emitter) in edc sized flashlights that I use for close range (I like wide hotspots). The bigger issue is that anything above 4000°K must be either unique (as a collector piece) or cheap and without glue to allow emitter swap. AFAIK SP31 is glued.

Why SP32 sells more would be just a speculation. Two guesses, it’s not available on banggood (sp32 is) and for random buyers when thing looks similar, they usually prefer model with higher number because they think it’s either newer or improved.

[mmalive]

@teacher

@Barry0892

How do you like this anodization?

Looks very good to me. I like it…… :+1: . I love Matte Ano!!
Fins look good as does the battery tube.

True teacher. I would love knurling like that.

[oweban]

@mihlit

Why SP32 sells more would be just a speculation. Two guesses, it’s not available on banggood (sp32 is) and for random buyers when thing looks similar, they usually prefer model with higher number because they think it’s either newer or improved.

This goes back to the issue I raised earlier - the naming scheme can be confusing, and it isnt clear what light does what. There needs to be an easy comparison list (eg: max lumens, battery type, number of emitters, emitter type, weight, release date etc etc etc). I honestly have no idea the difference between the 30, 31, 32….

I might spend some time tonight working a spreadsheet up.

Also going into the item description and the actual information is under an image of a bunch of other items that aren’t the one you chose to look at…

/shrug

[teacher]

If you have not seen this POLL CONCERNING GLUED LIGHTS , please check it out & vote…

It is an attempt to get one light manufacturer to listen concerning using glue to seal their lights. Maybe other light companies might listen also. .

Take a few seconds & vote……

‘NO GLUE’ is the goal. Hopefully, this poll will help achieve that goal.

[Lux-Perpetua]

SP31 V2.0 is a great light if you want to have a tighter hot spot. It comes with XP-L HI but it also works great with SST-20 (once you get the bezel loose…hello glue!). SP32A V2.0 has - to my mind - the more versatile beam profile, quite allround-like between throw and flood. It only lacks the right LED. XP-L2 should be exchanged by LH351D for a better beam quality (no rainbows, no fried eggs). Did you know that you can use the SC31 OP reflector in the SP32A V2.0? Once you combine the XP-L2 with the OP reflector you get a nicer beam (at the cost of lux/candela of course).

[Lux-Perpetua]

@teacher

[…]It is an attempt to get one light manufacturer to listen concerning using glue to seal their lights. Maybe other light companies might listen also. . :+1: […]

You took the words right out of my mouth eehhhm fingers. Very good thought to remind about the “vote for revealing lights” :+1:

[teacher]

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[oweban]

@oweban

I might spend some time tonight working a spreadsheet up.

Right, so I did a quick thing, not 100%, but just looking at the products when opening.

See how confusing the SP and SF series get? The C series are thankfully consistent in being a similar body shape.

I’m unsure if more categories in the store would help - but when I was looking at getting either the SP30/31/32, coupled with there being multiple entries in the store for each, I just kinda threw my hands up and didn’t bother.

[Lux-Perpetua]

Looks good oweban! :THUMBS-UP: I tried something in parallel, still working on filling the gaps. This is just something to start with. I hope I get the drawings for the SP36 and Q8, too. Anything else you would like to have in the comparison chart? I saw CCT/CRI could be worthwhile to mention.

[oweban]

That’s incredible! Far more detailed than I could do in 20 minutes I love that the images are to scale.

Maybe a field for “notes” - I feel like there’s not many lights with higher CRI, so instead of a column, a notes field could encompass that. It could also be filled that with things like “ideal use case”, or similar.

As for CCT - for myself, if I had that chart, I’d be able to cross out all the cold whites immediately and only focus on what I want (given the propensity for glue in heavy doses happy to change emitters, but I don’t want to have to wreck the light in the process!)

At the end of the day, I think an informed customer is a happy one. While it might be information overload for some, it would help someone who knows exactly what they’re after to narrow it down quickly.