I got mine today, I haven’t had much time to play, but I like the light, I’m disappointed that they changed the thread pitch. The clip shape isn’t ideal, it would be better if the back end of the clip was more open, and if where it came off the tube it didn’t stick out as far. I did notice that you can install the clip backwards to clip it to the brim of a baseball cap.
Or better yet, do Simon a solid.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Convoy-S2-blue-flashlight-host/330416_32450892013.html
I was using a unprotected Samsung 26.
After Manker shut down a BLF group buy with some map crap and now that they changed the agreed upon specs during production, they have earned the name Wanker. Fark them.
quote from OP: “My math that inspired me to attempt this group buy:
BLF 17DD Diver from RMM w/ options ~$14.25
Noctigon 16mm Driver from RMM ~$1.99
Subtotal parts 16.24 plus shipping plus cost of flashlight (EE A6 ~$19) = $35.24 +/- vs GB of $22-$23 (or even less if we can get the same success of the X6-SE)
To me that is a huge savings.”
so now the math changed right ???
get this great deal for 25usd plus buy a host which fits the specs ~12USD total 37USD its still a great deal but suddenly the savings are gone heheheh
is that what you mean or do we try to talk the threads good now ??
So the thread problem is only a problem if I was looking forward to moving bits and pieces between the A6 and the X6?
FYI I was responding to a post from jack-bkk that seems to have disappeared. Perhaps I should delete mine as well to avoid confusion? te=Jubeldum]
I was using a unprotected Samsung 26.
After Manker shut down a BLF group buy with some map crap and now that they changed the agreed upon specs during production, they have earned the name Wanker. Fark them.
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I’ve had mine a few days now and love it. The driver and firmware are amazing. I wasn’t sure if I would like the long press to go backwards. Now that I’ve gotten used to using it my I find myself trying step backwards with my other lights and when they don’t I feel they are missing something. My other dd fet drivers all tend to have a whine in one of the levels. I haven’t heard a peep out of this one yet. The moonlight is as low as my rmm moonlight special lights. I can tell the firmware has been fine tuned to work very well with the hardware. I now want to upgrade a couple of my convoy triples with this driver.
When I first got the light and was checking everything out, I reassembled the body tube backwards and the light would not turn on. I quickly figured it out and flipped the body tube around the correct way and it works great. Maybe others have done this and haven’t realized why it wasn’t turning on. So if its not turning on make sure the pocket clip groove is toward the tailcap.
Thanks to everyone involved in making this happen. Special thanks to bugsy36 for being the ringleader and to Wight and Toykeeper for making my favorite part of this flashlight.
edit: I also love the way the hidden modes are cleverly accessed. They are out of site, but quickly accessible when you want them. I think that stutter beacon will be nice when bicycle riding.
Well, mostly. Some people found their hosts had loose threads and they didn’t like it. Some had tight threads that were hard to turn, and they didn’t like it. If you get one that has reasonably fitting threads, and you’re not trying to fit any of these parts to any other parts in the world, you should have nothing to complain about. What I’m worried about is the shorty tube we requested to be made for this light. How is the QC going to be for that? :~
Thx for the info re threads
david the shorty tube has to be made to this standards or it wont fit same disadvantage here it wont fit on any other light but this would be amazing if it fit
but in the end of the day what can we do we cant expect them to make new tubes its a mistake a stupid and annoying one but not the end or the world the light is great ui is too so at least now we got the drives which been so often requested 5555 and we got the tube as freee gimmick
jack, I applaud your positive outlook, but here’s the deal. Yes, we got an awesome driver. That’s great! However, I probably would not have bought this light, no matter how good a deal it is, if I’d known there would be QC issues. On top of that, Manker has shown ill will toward us by using MAP to shut down a Group Buy that WWEFANS was trying to do. If they hadn’t done that, I might be willing to chalk the QC issues up to just a mistake, possibly trying to run too quickly on our behalf, etc. But, not now. They’ve shown malicious intent.
At this point, I’m sincerely hoping that when I receive my four lights, I don’t regret having spent the $100USD to get them. I’m not a skilled modder, like a lot of people around here. And, I don’t have a lot of extra money laying around to waste on buying junk lights. I need them to work perfectly and be decent quality.
Edit: Oh yeah, about those shorty tubes. Here’s my fear on that. In order to “work” with this light, they now “have to” be made to the same low quality standard. With this light, they had a goal, a target - match the existing EE lights - and they failed. What makes anyone think they’ll match these threads now? And, if they do match, then it will prove that they didn’t try to match the threads before, even though they did with the samples. To me, that shows malicious intent. They had the right settings to match the threads, and they decided not to!
Just received my A6. The battery tube can’t be screwed in wide enough (- 0.20mm) to get contact with the unanodized area in the tailcap.
A paper clip did the workaround (with additional resistance). A battery tube with e.g. 0.3mm longer thread on the tailcap side could be a permanent solution.
I think if the 4 you get are as good as the 4 I just received you’ll be happy so long as lego-ability with the X6 isn’t a big concern for you. I checked one of mine, definitely not interchangeable.
This seems to be the same with mine, I can get it to work (light up), if I screw on the tailcap with way to much force, but I fear the electrical contact is then still not optimal and over time it will wear out the threads even with grease.
What to do?
Sand some anodized off your threads? I know not preferable for tail cap lockout. :~
David i agree with you but we shouldn’t mix up their GB with MAP issues and this light its 2 different things and you knew that issue before so why take manker then in first place ??
i work with china all the time and i inspect factories get samples inspect production line during production it often happens that i get samples from factory A the production start in factory B and we end the production in factory C which was build in the first weeks of production in factory C.
the problem is if you confirm samples they can come from any factory but one thing is clear this samples are the specs so manker cant get away with that easy another point is in my opinion this solder points we saw in the pics are far from professional if you compare them with many other Chinese light they look more like a back yard production. nothing against back yards i saw amazing quality come out of some back yards.
modder or skilled or not we are all customers there and pay money so the light have to be ready to use.
I was addressing Hank’s comment that $25 was worth it for him just for the LED and Driver, even without the host.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
OK, so some of the members here have not even received their SE A6 and are worried about the quality… Going into a situation with a preconceived notion sets you up for failure. In this case, any negative QC issues will be standing out and you WILL be disappointed. Not due to the light, but because you are holding on to a negative view when initially looking at something.
I bought ten of these, I am very happy with them. They were not pre production samples, but off the shelf lights ( I had to wait for one of the tints to restock prior to shipping ) so I have a rather large sample compared to most. I sat down and tested every one of these when I got them in. I did not have any issues with any of mine…
None were DOA and while side by side with my stock Eagle Eye A6 I bought months ago, they are not the same, the Eagle Eye falls by the wayside for UI, Brightness, and even tint (EE is NW, one of each tint on the Manker A6, and I like all those tints better). The EE finish is better, threads tighter, general workmanship is better, but this is when the light is not on that I notice these things…. Lights have a binary state, and both states influence their impression of them. On and Off are flashlight states, I will take the superior ON state over the inferior OFF state everytime….
Read my PFlexPRO M1 review if you want further information on this. It is simply a Convoy M1 on the outside, the function/build quality sets it apart, way apart. The same with this SE A6 in my opinion. I do not mind the loose threads, anyone that actually uses their A6 and has a possibility of getting dirt into them will understand this… I highly doubt that I will ever pinch an O-ring in the Manker SE A6, the threads allow enough movement to prevent it. I really would have liked the ability to lego with other lights, but what other lights lego across brands right now?
There is no holy grail of flashlights, or this forum would be a single post of “BUY THIS LIGHT” and a whole bunch of boring replies echoing the feeling of pulling a sword from a stone and realizing you are king or queen of your personal light that will do everything for you….
If you have a QC issue, take it up with BangGood, they need to know too… There are plenty of work-arounds for the issues like the tailcap not going down to contact the body, don’t do this unless you NEED the light, just contact BangGood and get them to correct it. Something that wrong is just wrong, on a $5 light or $500 dollar light. Informing others here on the disappointment you feel is good too, but for those that have not received the lights yet, go into it with an open mind…. It is a heck of a flashlight for $25 shipped…
You can add me to the list of those with problems. No moonlight mode.
You can add me to the list of those with problems. No moonlight mode. 5A