Actually, on flood its incredibly bright. Makes my H602W look like itās not even on. Iāll have to try ceiling bounce test. Maybe I just got lucky on the Zeusray lottery?
Or you flunked out on the others? Iāve never been all that impressed with flood on any zoomie.
You didnāt mention what cells you are using.
I thought I did in the first post but in any case. Usually I use a Efest 35A IMR in the Zeusray, but when I was comparing to the Convoys I was using identical fully charged Keeppower 3100ās (protected). I wish I could capture w/ a camera the marked difference between it and the rest of my lights.
1 NW. Thanks.
Ugh. More money I donāt have. I know you guys know the feeling. Iām at #127 for a CW, please put me down for a NW also. Thanks.
I canāt comment for A6, but I can attest that on flood the Zuesray does seem exceedingly bright. Ok beam distance is limited compared to a reflector torch, but itās glaringly bright close up.
Ok, you talked me into it. 
Put me down for a CW.
Thanks!
I don't really see why this light should be compared to the Zeusray??? That is a zoomie, not tube style (for no reason btw), not very well finished and has the standard chinese UI with blinkies and bad mode range/spacing, the only similarity to this light is that it is pretty bright. What bugsy/BG/EE are trying to achieve is exactly not that: high end quality finish, great UI and mode range/spacing (and not ugly, but that is in the eye of the beholder of course ;-) ).
What djozz said.
If the manufacturers can deliver anything near what the custom-modded versions do, this BLF A6 should smoke pretty much every budget light on the market. Better build quality, better driver, both higher and lower output, better UI. Itās something which, as far as Iām aware, hasnāt been done before.
About the only thing Iām worried about is whether the manufacturer will be able to build the driver correctly. I donāt think anyone has tried mass-producing an oshpark driver in Chinese fabs before. Iām glad Iām not the one who must deal with that.
Count me in for a CW version. Cheers for making this happen, my poor under driven BLF EE X6 never gets used.
That is the idea. Kronos' X6-SE changed that and caused the manufacturers to take note - not just EE but all of them. Some will be resistant to what they are told that WE want but that does not matter because EE is more than willing to work with us. :)
The team of smart people working on this (not me :)) are removing the bottlenecks at the top and the bottom whereas before it was always one way or the other
Ditto!! The capabilities are there. All one has to do is consider the names such as Zebralight, Fenix, etc. etc. They all utilize Chinese manufacturing. We just need to ensure that what we give them to build is what we get back in return. That is what the QC of the samples is for. I have dealt with Chinese manufacturing before so I am prepared for what to look for.
My sample with Wight's driver is a kick-ass light! Even the low on this is lower than anything else that I have with any kind of power. If that +1 driver can fly (which I think it will) - this light can become one of the most popular EDC's around.
All we need to do as a group here at BLF is show the vendors and manufacturers that this light is what we want.
I donāt think it was a comparison of actual torches. But the questions was asked in terms of brightness. I guess if you own a Zeusray and itās one of your brightest single cell lights and you donāt own anything with a 5amp driver, then having a reference point is nice. I might be wrong, but thatās what I assumed the question was asking about.
Count me in for a NW version.
This light is going to be epic!
For what it is worth....the X6 is not under-driven at all. It is right up there with the rest when it comes to output. The Fenix as an example puts out the same for 3x more money. There are also many others that put out half of that for 3x more money.
Can the host handle more - Yes. That does not mean there is something wrong or even amiss. For those that still want more then there is an easy solution.
http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=67&product_id=227
Before Wight's driver this was it and is still very capable and will make this rival lights well into the >$100 lights - as proven by Dale.
$20 for a complete light vs $15 for a host only...well worth it all day :)
Th only reason the X6 did not get this driver is because nobody knew they would build a driver selected by us. That is how this A6 came about and even in stock form this A6 is by no means a slouch....especially at $20 :)
Thatās how I took it as well. I think youāve probably hit the nail on the head: for someone who does not own a 5A+ single cell light itās difficult to find a point of reference.
That saidā¦ a zoomie must be a poor reference IMO, the beam profile is just too different in any case.
Yo Krono! If this light reaches epic proportions in performance AND sales it will be because you paved the way with that X6-SE and there is one hell of a team behind the scenes on this!
This thing will be a winner, you guys make it happen!
In for one NW.
Who made the drivers for the samples?