I like to see the source, not out of distrust but to find out if after 9 days could they just detect the presence of virus material (by sequencing RNA recovered from the surfaces, which may be from unable crippled virus particles) or did they establish that completely intact virusparticles were present that were able to infect people?
I have a friend working on the ambulance. Also people in their twenties are being brought in to the hospital with respiratory problems today. Especially the south of NL gets hit quite hard at the moment.
Hopefully the hospital capacity won’t be overstretched. Until that moment most healthy people will be OK in the end. Still awful for all the old and sick being lost.
I have a colleague from Bergamot, Italy. They don’t even have time for a funeral together with family at the moment. He just lost his 82 year old uncle.
Bizarre to see how the whole world economy grinds to a halt.
We should get a better preventive system. Next year we can have an ever deadlier virus being airborne. Hope we can all learn from this and get well soon! Maybe summertime will help eradicate corona faster.
I hope in the end we get out stronger and better prepared for the future!
Here’s how long the coronavirus will last on surfaces, and how to disinfect those surfaces.
Covid-19: How long does the coronavirus last on surfaces?
COVID-19
I deleted it because I couldn’t verify the source.
But if I can get hold of the recording again I’ll post it to see if any blf detectives can source it.
Both of those links I posted mention the 9 days, as does this one from February.
Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and their inactivation with biocidal agents
https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext
“”Most data were described with the endemic human coronavirus strain (HCoV-) 229E. On different types of materials it can remain infectious for from 2 hours up to 9 days. A higher temperature such as 30°C or 40°C reduced the duration of persistence of highly pathogenic MERS-CoV, TGEV and MHV. However, at 4°C persistence of TGEV and MHV can be increased to ≥ 28 days. “”
Heads-up:
(Not directed at anybody in particular in this thread.)
My daughter is 12 , she said some people on the internet refer to the virus as the “Boomer Remover”
“Persistence of coronaviruses on inanimate surfaces and their inactivation with biocidal agents”
Full study here but actually none of the studies are actually done on SARS-COV-2, something to note.
After reading that a coronavirus patient in New York survived by using Chloroquine
cliff notes:
The New Jersey health care worker James Cai, who was the state’s first coronavirus case says:
“When I tested positive for coronavirus, Chinese doctors recommended I be treated with the antimalarial medicine chloroquine”
“Most medical providers here don’t know about it,” Cai said.
“Fortunately I have the resources to access the information, or I would be dead and gone by now”
So, I asked my doctor about chloroquine access.
the standard response from my USA Medical Doctor was
“there is no clinical research, that is just anecdotal”
I recall years ago the establishment doctors said the same thing about using cannabis to cope with nausea induced by chemotherapy
So, I wonder how the New Jersey coronavirus patient gained access to the treatment…
Could this be like buying Tadalafil from India without a prescription for $2, instead of Cialis from Walgreens in USA, with a prescription, for $200?
having hit the conventional roadblock, I began by googling
“buy chloroquine online from India without a prescription”
one of the results was this article, in which TheDonald misrepresents the establishment FDA wisdom:
Americans are turning to one of Africa’s most common prescribed drugs to battle coronavirus
“This Thursday (Mar. 19) during the White House press briefing on coronavirus Covid-19 in the United States, US president Donald Trump surprised some observers in the medical sciences world when he revealed the US Food and Drugs Administration had approved the use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of the coronavirus in patients.”
The FDA actually has not approved chloroquine for coronavirus…
It seems the Chloroquine access question is a matter of “”grass roots”:https://www.thewailers.net/wailers-roots-rasta-reggae-rebels/” research, preceding the FDA regulatory process.
disclaimer, I do not play a Doctor on the Internet
this is not medical advice
I am not affiliated with the FDA, nor do I sell farmaceuticals online
A quick question for those in the know (actually, two, or three) :
. Does high energy UV radiation kill viruses?
. Will ionized oxygen kill viruses?
. Is copper anti-viral?
I was going to post a video from big Clive which shows him using a CAT infrared phone that give you pinpoint forehead temperatures from a distance, but it’s now been made private , I suspect he may have been urged to make it not available for some reason 
UV yes
Oxygen no (it only kills anaerobics, not aerobics)
Copper yes
alcohol also works, and imo is the most practical
as an example
imagine I want to disinfect the interior of my car
do I,
close my eyes, and or wear UV blockers and sunscreen, while shining the UV
or
plug a negative ion generator into the cigarette lighter socket
or
rub my copper flashlight all over the interior,
or
spray isopropyl alcohol, or soak a rag in alcohol, and wipe down the interior?
Can you see how the spray alcohol is the easiest application to reach and treat all the surfaces, even the airspace? While also having much lower risk of injuring the operator than UV.
Rubbing your copper flashlight all over the interior of your car will do absolutely nothing to kill the Coronavirus.
A week or two it was in the news results of some study that showed how long the Coronavirus can survive on various different surfaces:
Suspended in air - 3 hours
Copper - 4 hours
Fibrous material - 24 hours
Hard material (metal, plastic) - 3 days
So yes, Copper is anti-viral and will kill Coronavirus, but briefly rubbing it across particles stuck to your car will do nothing productive.
The fraction of a second contact with the copper of your flashlight as you rub it over your car’s interior is far less than the 4-hours required for copper to actually kill the virus. Doing so would only kill viral particles which actually stuck to your light and stayed there. Most viral particles will probably not adhere to the copper and will stay stuck to your car surfaces. Or even worse, the act of rubbing your flashlight over them might dislodge them into the air where you breathe them in.
The best way to disinfect your car is probably using alcohol wipes or Clorox wipes. Lysol also works, but I think that takes 10 minutes of soaking to take effect so probably isn’t practical for your car.
If I could find hand sanitizer I’d stick a dispenser in my car door and use it every time I got back in the car after shopping for groceries. Unfortunately hand sanitizer isn’t available anywhere, so I’m wearing disposable gloves, then after my shopping trip I wipe down my car controls with a Clorox wipe.
Here is vice president Biden’s prepared video on corona-virus that he released this morning.
We can avoid politics by not giving opinions on it, but it should be watched in it’s entirety, it starts at the 3:45 mark and runs about 16 minutes or so.
I agree the copper is a non-starter, would damage my window tint too
the hand sanitizer is good
and imo the spray is even better, it lets me treat the coins I got as change more easily
and I can mist my clothing, and food packaging with it too
Wish I could get alcohol spray or hand sanitizer. I placed an order with Amazon for alcohol wipes and hand sanitizer, but it won’t ship for at least 6 weeks.
At my local grocery store the entire cleaning aisle was empty except for maybe 1 can of oven cleaner. Lol.
Got vodka?
Vodka does not have a high enough alcohol content
OK. But here the stores carry vodka that is about half that.