GB BLF LuckySun D80-SE Need long tubes? -3/3/16

[Lampenheinz]

@kronological

The main thing we are working on now is mode spacing. We will see about what we can do to change that a little. But keep in mind…there are no more samples forthcoming…so we have to be sure we nail it BEFORE production…so this could be a little tricky. If we keep it the same, there is one good thing (B42 pointed out). The High, being close to Turbo, is near the same output, but with less drain on the battery. EcoTurbo? 8)

To be honest- I would prefer it other ways. I´d like to really see a good diference between high and turbo- if there is nearly not noticeable difference between them, there is no sense for me. Turbo mostly is used for showing off- no one needs to squeeze out the last lumen while walking around outside, for doing that, even the normal high is more than enough- so why two steps?

[keithd]

Not to even ask to change anything, but are we able to reprogram the driver?

[RonMuller]

I already have "ecoturbo" on the eagle eyes X6 and it kinda blows to be honest. I still love the light but the mode spacing makes it seem kinda goofy. The current numbers in Turbo are great for a light this size. If we could get the mode spacing better that would rock. The 6 second issue is a non-issue for for me. I'm really looking forward to this - Thanks to Kronological and all the other members for the effort.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Oops! Sorry about that! You’d think, as a photographer, I’d be all over the pictures side of things. Somehow the Flashaholic in me is a separate entity from the Photographer and I don’t mix em up a lot. Although my Flickr account won’t prove that out, almost all my stored pics there are flashlight related. (sad, I have no social life)

I’ll get some pics.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

I do need to ask though, on the memory thing… this light sets the memory after 6 seconds of use. This does not mean that it holds that memory forever until you do something intentionally different.

What it means is, if you turn the light off before 6 seconds, memory will be set to next mode from the one it was in when you turned it off.

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

So, changing this to 2 seconds would be helfpul, not otherwise.

[Muto]

@djozz

In traditional BLF fashion, this (again) huge group buy thread comes with a staggering amount of numbers, but with oh so little pictures, just one in the OP which hardly does justice to this light. What convinced me finally joining this group buy was not so much the numbers (I trusted Krono and others doing a great job on that) but actually having a LS D80 in my hand and feel how compact it is (that was on a german TLF meeting).

So now several folks have a sample, which is as good as final, can we have pictures please, also with he light in hand to see the dimensions?

No pictures in hand, but plenty others from my review including side by side with C8 etc.

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HTH
Keith

[UliBär]

@DB Custom

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So, changing this to 2 seconds would be helfpul, not otherwise.

I can only second that! 6 seconds is waaayyy too looooong. 2 seconds on a Qlite is already a PITA sometimes, the best is off time memory, like most Xtar and all Fenix lights have - that’s the way to go!

[Calmaja]

@DB Custom

I do need to ask though, on the memory thing… this light sets the memory after 6 seconds of use. This does not mean that it holds that memory forever until you do something intentionally different.

What it means is, if you turn the light off before 6 seconds, memory will be set to next mode from the one it was in when you turned it off.

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

So, changing this to 2 seconds would be helfpul, not otherwise.

+1000

[BLightSam]

@DB Custom

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

Don’t think that’s the way mode memory works. Even with your mode memory operation with 2 sec set, for example, if you turn on and then turn off, you are set to next mode — and there is no longer 2 sec set. You should not be setting mode memory with every use.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

[DavidEF]

@BLightSam

@DB Custom

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

Don’t think that’s the way mode memory works. Even with your mode memory operation with 2 sec set, for example, if you turn on and then turn off, you are set to next mode — and there is no longer 2 sec set. You should not be setting mode memory with every use.

I think Dale knows how it works - he has a sample light.

[RonMuller]

@DB Custom

I do need to ask though, on the memory thing… this light sets the memory after 6 seconds of use. This does not mean that it holds that memory forever until you do something intentionally different. What it means is, if you turn the light off before 6 seconds, memory will be set to next mode from the one it was in when you turned it off. If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds +every time before you turn it off+. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory. So, changing this to 2 seconds would be helfpul, not otherwise.

Umm, ya the 6 second thing is a bigger deal than I thought. I hate next mode. Thanks for the clarification DB Custom.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Neither can we, twin towers, so it’s being addressed. We don’t plan on it being finalized with such a blatant oversight.

[ChiggerPepi]

@DB Custom

I do need to ask though, on the memory thing… this light sets the memory after 6 seconds of use. This does not mean that it holds that memory forever until you do something intentionally different.

What it means is, if you turn the light off before 6 seconds, memory will be set to next mode from the one it was in when you turned it off.

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

So, changing this to 2 seconds would be helfpul, not otherwise.

Thank you Dale!!! This is exactly what I’m talking about!!!

Please for the love of god make it 2 seconds. Or less.

[keithd]

@keithd

Not to even ask to change anything, but are we able to reprogram the driver?

Anyone know?

[kronological]

@ChiggerPepi

@DB Custom

I do need to ask though, on the memory thing… this light sets the memory after 6 seconds of use. This does not mean that it holds that memory forever until you do something intentionally different.

What it means is, if you turn the light off before 6 seconds, memory will be set to next mode from the one it was in when you turned it off.

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

So, changing this to 2 seconds would be helfpul, not otherwise.

Thank you Dale!!! This is exactly what I’m talking about!!!

Please for the love of god make it 2 seconds. Or less.

We’re working on it. Just put some ice in your Pepsi and chill :bigsmile:

[sb56637]

@DB Custom

Nice! Wow, that thing really is a pocket rocket. Way smaller than I expected from the stock photos.

[BLightSam]

@DavidEF

@BLightSam

@DB Custom

If you want memory set, you MUST leave the light on at least 6 seconds every time before you turn it off. Failure to run the light more than 6 seconds results in the default next mode memory.

Don’t think that’s the way mode memory works. Even with your mode memory operation with 2 sec set, for example, if you turn on and then turn off, you are set to next mode — and there is no longer 2 sec set. You should not be setting mode memory with every use.

I think Dale knows how it works - he has a sample light.

In that case 6 sec is too long. This mode memory operation is quite different from the older lights memory operation — they do not require setting every time.

[DB_Custom (Dale)]

Maybe it’s not quite as simple as that, the MCU is part of a system, the pcb is the roadmap for the system, fitting the components together. Even if it’s got an ATiny13A MCU, the traces have to all be right for us to be able to flash it and make a change. This one uses 2 of the small FET’s, I don’t know how they’ve configured the LVP in relation to the resistors, the capacitors, I just don’t know.

BUT, I DO have an original D80, with the mixed up modes and stuff. I can try flashing it with our regular on-time firmware and see how it acts…. was planning to swap out the driver anyway so if it fails it’s not a big deal.

Edit: must be a different wiring layout, connecting my USB programmer to it seems to short out my programmer. Well, I tried!

[keithd]

DB, who’s awesome?

You’re awesome.