Hey, it’s not THAT bad.
But it’s clearly a point where the Jaxman is a better design. Its retaining disc doesn’t have that shoulder (though depending on the MCPCB thickness it may still bottom out on the perimeter of the pill).
I have to say, your goat looks even madder than my dog…
People, just buy some glitter, roll it in, and be happy.
They look so cute before Satan gets their souls…
Good advice - you should be the first to take it
Too bad kids turn into goats……or teenagers.
BTW, I got my pipe bomb with its fuse lit!!!
I opened the cardboard and then the foam lid and saw this blue glow inside. I ran to the bathroom and dunked it in the potty.
They had included the Vap-Power in a FLIMSY! plastic baggy and when they closed it the springs just chewed thru the thin plastic. They didn’t notice that the switch was glowing blue?
The lens has an anomaly butt I haven’t taken it apart to see iffn it’s in or on the lens.
That’s the old Jax version 1 in kikkoman’s pic,
I’m reasonably sure, that pic was before they realized that the black round thing called the limitation ring was needed that keeps the LED center cover from sitting on the LED, that was added to the build in 2015 I think … Limitation ring bottom center of pic…
Good grief, now you see why it was our civic duty to buy out as many of these lights as possible, they were eventually going to get someone hurt, badly, they can’t even ship them correctly, holy cow… Not surprised one bit though… I gotta go to the potty, and I’m taking my damn goat with me… 
Oh no that’s not good to hear. I was planning to do the same. Were you able to fix the beam? How does the throw compare with stock?
Thanks for the heads up. :+1:
Can you take picture of wall shot? Would like to see how pretty it is :sunglasses:
I think your using the most interesting and promising LED yet in this clone.
I saw your first mention of this LED, I think it was you, but anyhow I went and looked, actually had to Google find it, first time I heard of this idea there was no mention who had these to my recollection.
I have read about these LEDs but they hadn’t been released yet, but the topic was the comparison to the black flat, really exciting stuff you have going,
Please keep us up to date, you may very well be building the best Z1 clone yet and I’m quit excited to see how this goes for you,
Personally I think it’s going to work out perfectly with just a few tweaks. Hurray for you …
I think I’m just going to go buy some of these because I can’t find them anywhere except where you bought yours, not even Mouser, and one other place had a 500 MOQ but zero in stock. I think these LEDs are the newest of the new LEDs of any company, very exciting and I’d hate to drag my feet and find them sold out.
Best of Luck to you, Ah luck my butte, highly skilled I believe …!! :+1:
LIMITATION RING!!!
Finally, the proper name for that piece.
Nice going T18…… :+1:
Ya , haha, I had to laugh when I saw that in my file, I couldn’t recall what it was called to save my life, well that is if I ever did know the name of it, can’t recall ever having a conversation about that piece but it seriously important, you can see in the other parts photo that in the 1st version it wasn’t a part of the build.
Also found a statement thread this evening completely accident from looking at a Google pic from back in the day from a guy Budda CPF Italia, you know who I’m talking about and also some comments by Bugsy36, and he was the one who asked that we at BLF support CPF and so I did, but in these posts by bugsy he is almost denying he had anything to do with this cloning and I know and I think anyone here awhile would know he was in so deep with BG while he was here like the A6 GB that I still have my thoughts about him as culpable and I found the J Team guys with you know who, and who forgot to delete this pile of posts… ha ha ha, oh well made my peace and I’ll leave it at that… 
Going to hit the hay, have a great evening or early AM I think for you… See ya pal… 
Yeah…. the “Limitation Ring” plays an important part for sure.
Yeah T18, most people will never know the true story of the Cometa now almost 3 years after it’s beginnings.
Heck, most people didn’t even realize what had happened back then either… Because they were either to busy or to lazy to read a bit. 
In all fairness there were at least 3 major Cometa Threads at any given time. Post were scattered among the open threads too. And each time a thread was LOCKED, another would be created to take it’s place.
Fun times in my book…… In the long haul, I think it was good for BLF in general.
More honesty & openness started to show up… IMO & a few others anyway.
After reading your post, I too went back and reread a bunch of post in those old threads. It got very ‘sporty’…… to say the least! It is somewhat hilarious & comical reading to say the least. I think it was the beginning of the wheat being seperated from the chaff on BLF. Some well respected members, at the time; were exposed as nothing more than schills & outright liars.
The general honesty of several was demonstrated lacking.
AND of course…. the RUDE BUTTON was created. . . .
As you mentioned, bugsy36 was tripping all over himself saying the Cometa “WAS NOT” a collaboration between CPFI & a BLF Team.
He just forgot he had posted the quoted words below, early on in one of the key Cometa threads. ….
WARNING: Cometa – read/fix BEFORE inserting battery
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 15:14…………. #99
I watched that assembly video Jax made and I thought the limitation ring goes on top of everything and keeps the lens from bumping into hard things when fully zoomed out? It appears it has an O-ring in a groove on top.
Anyway… just took everything apart and measured again. With the centering ring (“led center cover” in the Z1) fully screwed in, there’s even 2.0 mm between its central ring and the pill bottom. Which confirms my suspicion: even the thicker MCPCBs don’t get pushed down properly (or NOT AT ALL if your solder joints and wires are really nice and flat :person_facepalming: )
So a thicker MCPCB doesn’t fix this, unless there’s 2mm ones.
Several options left:
- ~0.5mm material under the MCPCB to raise it against the centering ring
- turn down the shoulders –0.5mm where the centering ring bottoms out.
Yes a spacer around the LED fixes the pressure issue somewhat but the beam ain’t pretty since the centering ring sits 0.5mm too high. The Osram is 0.3mm thinner than the XP-L HI so you WILL have spill reflected from the ring.
OK, I understand now. There was indeed a lot of sarcasm in THIS POST. :person_facepalming: . (It was pretty funny though… to me anyway. )
But the truth of the matter is, with two simple ’fixes’; this light is as ‘safe’ as any other light. This is nothing new, we have known this for just about 2 & 1/2 years.
- 1. Put a washer/insulator around the driver spring.
- 2. Put a Butterfly Insulator/Spacer around the LED & rest the Black Anodized Disc on it.
- 2a. Put a piece of tape on the MCPCB solder joints.
The End. That is all that needs to be done.
Look close….
……Polypropylene is not missing from the ‘Plastics Chart’, it is #5.
That is what I made my driver washer/insulator from & it has been working just fine for right at 2 & 1/2 years.
There is no need to ’reinvent the wheel’ on this to make it safe.
My 10 are on the way!
Great news! Mine are on the way too. 
Ok. While I see the safety intent in your #2 advice I agree with Hank’s precaution in his post #1570.
I would be kinda careful adding inherently variable thickness homemade spacers from common household products to areas that prolly don’t need or profit from an increase in pressure.
The thinner tape-type insulators IMO are the way to go here if deemed necessary as further precaution. Just my .02.
I ordered one on 18 October. It has said ‘PROCESSING’ until about an hour ago. I got an email that said it had shipped.
I guess time will tell if that is actually true……
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Edit: Oh yeah, the price is now $94.05 USD & OUT OF STOCK. .