Is this a Genuine XHP CREE LED ?

Hi all,
I have had a 2 x 26650 Torch for a year or so but can’t remember where I purchased it.
It has a very bright and good even white beam even with no lens.
I have taken photos of the LED and wondered if this is a Genuine CREE XHP 70 or 90 or ?.
Using a Power supply in place of the Battery to the LED circuit board the LED draws
4.6 Amps at 8.4V (38.6W) Equiv to a Fresh Full new charge of 2 x 26650 Batteries.
3.5 Amps at 7.7V (27W) Equiv to each battery at 3.85V
3.0 Amps at 7.4V (22.6W) Equiv to each Batteries at 3.7V
1.7 Amps at 6.7V (11.4W) Equiv to each Battery down to 3.25V

I have seen photos of a XHP70 from someone in the net comparing the Fake Chinese LEDS but mine appears to have the circle and the square reversed in the corners to the Cree Shown there. Otherwise not that different.

There is no identification on the surface that the LED is mounted on.

I am hopeful someone here can tell me if this LED is a Real Cree and if so which model 70,70.2,90,90.2 etc.

As a new member here I am only allowed to post one photo, however I have some zoomed in phots and zoomed out photos too.

There is no “Cree XHP90”. And your picture does not show a genuine Cree LED either. It appears to be a clone of the XHP50 or XHP70.

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Thankyou,
I looked up orig purchase as an XHP70.
Here is a zoomed out shot.
Its also quite powerfull from light brightness and DC Power consumed.
How can one tell its a clone?

The LED is 7mm dome diameter.

It simply doesn’t look like a genuine XHP70 (any gen). Just compare with photos of XHP70s (in this case, XHP70.2 since only gen2 has phosphor all over the package) : LED test / review - Cree XLamp XHP70.2 P2 40E (4000 K) - The second generation of extreme overcurrent and light flux capability?

Yes I am aware the 70.2 has more phosphor, therefore hard to draw a conclusion to the earlier original version from 2020.
I can see the little dots all over the back of the LED on mine, typ of a Cree.
Pity we don’t have a picture of an orig XHP70 from 2020.

1st gen XHP70 is older than that, pictures there : LEDs & Other Stuff - (Reference Guide)

Looks like just another unknown knockoff chinese emitter.
There is no real information about these around.

Hmmm, I purchased the torch in 2020 so likely mid way from orig XHP70 to XHP70.2 as the cross gap is filled with phosphor in mine but not as much elswhere as the 70.2.
I thing I noticed is that on the Cree LED Pics it shows a Square and a + in the corners where mine is a Square and a circle.
All in all its still a beefy light and similar dc power to the XHP70 where the driver board can supply with ease 4.6 Amps.

What is the latest 7mm CREE XHP version now… XHP70.3 ?

Welcome to BLF!

If the light puts out enough lumens for you and the quality of the lumens are good enough, don’t fret about it being “genuine” CREE… if you swapped in a genuine XHP70.whatever, I doubt you’d notice a difference.

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Yes, 70.3 Is the latest, with 70.3 HD being the same domed type as yours, and 70.3 HI being a version with slightly more throw and better beam quality.

If you wanna swap, I’d recommend grabbing either a 5700K 90 CRI or a 4000K 70 CRI 70.3 HI off convoylight.com. These two are known to have nice tint, and not being oddly green or some other weird thing.

Assuming yours is a 6V version.

Hi ebastler,
Thanks for that info.
Can you pass on the link for the specs on the 70.3 5700K 90CRI please. In particular the Current at 6V.
I assume the my existing driver board regulates the 2 x 26650 Batteries in series voltage to 6V for the LED.
I know it can supply 4.6 Amps currently to the clone LED with batteries at full charge of 8.4V.

Noticed to on the link above the LED is not Domed.
CREE XHP70.3

Cheers.

Just search for the official datasheet.

Wow! Thats some serious current of 7.2Amps and 6V. Doubt my existing driver board is designed for that current. I would imaging too the hand held Torch would get somewhat toasty after a while too :slight_smile:

If this is already impressive for you, then it is time to look on my test of the XHP70.3 HI :smiley:

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Your driver board only needs to have the right voltage - the LED could handle more, but it won’t care if you drive it with less than it could :slight_smile:

It’s a 6V classe LED, and so should your mystery LED be. Current wise I’m sure the 70.3 HI can handle it easily, so it should be a drop-in replacement, with slightly more focused beam, better tint and Better uniformity.

The fact that it is domeless will likely offset most of the generational gains, so I’d expect ~ the same brightness as you have now.

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