Leatherman Sidekick or Ganzo 301 or other multi tool?

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You, my friend, are very adored by Ganzo’s multi tools :D!

But, in your and Ganzo’s defence I must say that replaceable wire cutters is nice addition!

Yet, I dont think that locking tools and replaceable wire cutters(what material are those made of?) should command such a hefty premium over otherwise identical G201B, for that money I can get TWO and rephrasing MountainKing - nice pouch(all of LM’s full sized tools except Wingman and to some extent Sidekick offer either leather or nylon belt pouches) and set of bits doesnt put it above Rebar that is available for some 10-15$ more shipped world wide. Well, not at least in my book :D!

If they dropped the price down to 30$ for G302B and offered set of replacement cutters for free, then it would be worthy item to check out ;)!

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Friend you are to chary... Because of guy like you people have to work for 10$ per month, and all world economy is moving to China or India which means loosing of working places in domestic countries.

I know about quality of leathermans & victorinox tools, and I only think Ganzo tool(only 301 and maybe this 302) has everything what you could need at better prices than L&V tools with free shipping to your doors.

If you will take care of it for the type of jobs they can do you will have them same as L&V tools for lower price.

If you will abuse L&V tools they will brake same as Ganzo.

I would really like to see review of this Ganzo 302B tool.Link or something...

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Dont you think youre going bit too far accusing me here? And if you really think that its my fault that people work for 10$ per month then I have a bad news for you - supporting Chinese made products is what makes the shift to China as well as shift towards 10$ wages, so buying Ganzo you are directly supporting oppressive commie regime with low wages, hows about that, will that let you keep your good nights sleep tonight :D? Where I stand it is called hypocrisy and double morals/standards ;)!

You can blame the whole world for all you like, but you are solely the only person responsible for things happening the way they happen, its not “their” fault and its not “my” fault, its YOUR fault for the life you live and for the way you see this world.

Accusing someone of 10$ slave-like wages and production lines moving to China is childish at best, sorry, better come with some REAL facts and SOLUTIONS instead of dramatic accusations and useless emotions next time.

And Id rather buy Swedish made Mora’s, Finnish made Fiskars, Swiss made Vic’s and USA made LM’s and mostly be calm about amount of pollution that goes into nature rather than spend my money for product with untraceable history of environmental pollution and policies.
Yes, I still buy Chinese lights but only because there is no alternative, everywhere else I try to steer away from China and support domestic/Eu/USA made products if there are any good products to buy from these countries.

I could go on and on but this is not political forum.

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Veer we think the same. The Ganzo 301/302 seems to be a great tool.
For the $42 of the 302, I am getting a rebar @$44+$14 shipped. You tell me what to do luminarium iaculator??

I know I rather add a $14 and know I am buying a reputable brand which is generally accepted is of great quality. The rebar has had so many positive reviews over various forums/net.

You yourself is saying that someone should review the 302. You do not so far know the quality and yet is saying it is a good replacement for a rebar???
Also, if someone reviewed it, it would still be inconclusive imo. You need more than one opinion to get a clear view. I watched countless reviews of leatherman sidekick, wingman and rebar to make an opinion. While the sidekick and wingman has their issues and is much cheaper, the shipping is killing it for me.

Have you used or do you have any ganzo that you are using? Can you post a review of it?

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Hes busy accusing people of his Chinese multi tool addiction and bias :D!

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Debates are a good thing, it makes people examine the pros and cons of the proudcts more. However, @luminarium iaculator I’d suggest that you have to make sure you do your homework before you post statements that appear to be facts which may cause people to make mistakes when they make their final buying decisions. For example you said that those models do not have locking blades, a very quick Google search on them indicates that they both have locking blades, and the pictures would seem to confirm that as well. When you post statements like that it can destroy your credibility. Also Mountain King and luminarium iaculator, are you guys in the witness protection program? Just putting your general location in your profile will at least help some people make general recommendations on items depending on what country you live in.

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"For example you said that those models do not have locking blades, a very quick Google search on them indicates that they both have locking blades, and the pictures would seem to confirm that as well. When you post statements like that it can destroy your credibility."

What are you talking about? Ganzo models G201 & G202 does not have locking blades so I guess your google search failed this time.

You can open blades on them and they stay put but they does not have blade locking mechanism like G301 or G302.

So apparently I am not the one that must be careful in statements.

No matter what you guys say G301 is much better tool than basic models. It has easy accessible blades(you can open them in a dark), it has blade locking mechanism + whole set of tools.

But I will not defend this tool any more. I will just say few more words to this guys.

Mountain King you are apparently did not read any of mine post? Where did you seen that I am comparing Ganzo to Rebar tool? This thread should be usefull to plenty of people and not just for you. Ganzo is also good and respectable Chinese manufacturer and brand and it can be good replacement for all famous multi-tools not just Rebar. I made one of first review of G301 on Exduct. But why I should justify this to anyone? Should I take film to show you all mine collection of multitools, knifes etc?

I am big fan of multitools and I have owned and used almost all premium multitools so I know what I am talking about.Probably I know things much better than you so I decided to help you and other guys in similar dilemma.

Veer. The fact is that you are showing to many emotions here... You are on the forum for god sake... Why are you upsetting yourself? I just wanted to say that you seem to be to chary because you don't want to pay 10$ more for better tool(am I wrong here?)... So if you would take a price of G302B to 30$ how much basic models should worth 10$ or less maybe? I did not have intention of insulting someone. And it is pure fact that G301/G302 are much better tools than their brothers.

Yes I am also supporting China oppressive commie regime with low wages but I want to pay $ more for better product and if that means that their worker will have $ more salary than this is good thing.

But I am also supporting all other product like leatherman,VX,Maglite, Malkoff, Mora etc. of their respective countries so I am supporting each of them equally...

This thread title is Leatherman Sidekick or Ganzo 301 or other multi tool?


And I really think I gave best of me to express some opinion on this G301 tool... It is really good tool for $ considering free shipping to your home door.


And last things I will say to you guys quating one famos cartoon is :
"Screw you Guys I'm Going Home".

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Its a common practice on the internet to accuse others of their own feelings - you said that its people like me that are to be blamed for low wages and production moving to China/India, to me that seems like being emotional and not basing ones opinion on facts.
I replied to you in polite manner and gave you examples of your own hypocrisy, now you try to turn the tides and tell me that Im emotional :)? Thats odd, whats even more odd is that you keep on trying to convince people how awesome Ganzo MT’s are and that they come with awesome pouch and set of bits and after that you say that its internet and people shouldnt take things too serious :D? How come youre trying so hard to argue with the rest of the folks here regarding such unimportant issue, ON THE INTERNET :D?

Dont bother answering me.

MountainKing - choose whats available now and wait for that perfect price-performance Leatherman to come up on Ebay ;)!

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I am not arguing to anyone... I gave my personal opinion and I have plenty of experience with multitools. Since this is forum people should care or not care for mine opinion. It is up to them.

I don't need to convince anyone... Ganzo multitool is really quality and respective brand in their country same as VX & LM in their countries. If you don't believe me try it out and then you will C.

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As I do not have one, I could be wrong, I went by the listings that refer to locking blades, as they are Chinese they could easily be wrong, if so, I stand corrected:

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TSellers said " are you guys in the witness protection program"?


still LMAO on that comment...

sorry for the off topic.. but,

(stilllaughingmyassoff)

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I actually got that from someone else’s post in this very forum not long ago, and as I felt the same way you did about it, I was keen for the chance to use it again. But alas I cannot take credit, in fact I thought it might have been you?

I would think that if you’re worried your posts may affect the chances of your local economy getting into the European Union, then just say something like ‘Eastern Europe’. As there are only 6 (or 7 depending on who you believe), continents, your anonymity even if you are in witness protection should be OK if you pick the one you believe yourself to be in for the time being.

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My OP mentioned I live in Mauritius.

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I did read every post in this thread but I cannot remember what every member said. Going back, I see you did mention the G301 over the sidekick and mentioned the somewhat weak pliers :slight_smile: So, of course, the G301 was in my radar based on your recommendation. But then after more research, the sidekick was not cutting it as shipping was a killer. I live in Mauritius. I saw the rebar a little bit more expensive even with shipping which changed my original idea of ganzo301 over sidekick. I even mentioned I got the rebar finally.

I agree.

Of course you do not need to. As I said above, I forgot what every member replied. Going back, I see you posted your experience and it was definetely weighted in before making the purchase. The weak pliers was mentioned.

Thank you for that. This is what makes this forum great. The great interaction/debate among forum members.

This is what was a stumbling block for me finally. At $38 shipped vs $42 for a sidekick (which ultimately the ebay seller failed to respect and stated he had no such item in stock when I clearly got the last one)
For $4 more which would you have gotten? The sidekick or the G301? The same logic is being applied by me for the 302b? over the rebar. $44 something vs $56 shipped.
And yeah if the new tools I mentioned, the $17 and $20ish have locking function, I’m definetely getting SOME. One for me and a couple others as gift!

Thank you for being polite.

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Just a follow-up to post #72 above regarding Leatherman’s warranty service. In that post I noted that I sent them some feedback regarding the warranty work that was done on a Skeletool. I did hear back from them today, and this is what they said:

This is the reply I sent back.

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So it’s a bit of a gamble, you might get a better tool back or you might receive a tool that’s not in such a good condition as the one you sent back for repair.

Best to always tick the “sentimental value” box if using this warranty service.

Thanks for pointing this out.

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I think the take-away message here is if you live in the USA, you are probably going to be able to get a lot more satisfaction from the warranty than if you live outside USA and have to use one of their third party contractors. Of course you can always try to send it directly to the USA, but then you know what can transpire when the package arrives back in your country and the customs people start to deal with it. But yes, I think if your tool is almost new and you just need the blade or pliers replaced, check the “sentimental” box, and that way you can be sure to get your original tool back.

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In that case, if their warranty service is of lesser quality outside USA, ie, you get used tool instead of brand new and sending it to USA might end up with you paying local taxes then buying couple of Ganzo’s is better choice IMO :D!

If one brakes, send it to China in hope that they will send you back repaired/new item while you still have second item to use :D!

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I tend to agree, if you live outside of the USA, then perhaps Ganzo is better value, and maybe if you live in the USA, Leatherman is better value. Note I say “better value”, and not necessarily “better tool”.

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Man I’m getting the leatherman supertool 300 for $70 shipped NEW.
I’m nearly pissed I ordered the rebar :smiley: lol.