New Home Depot Defiant 3D Tear Down photos and measurements

I will fill in more later. I just wanted to get the photos up and what specs I had.

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Plastic Lens and Reflector. They look to be XP-G2 leds. I could be wrong, but they are small in real life.

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Might be Ano, but it does chip easily on the edges.

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Comments, Measurements

OAL - 126mm

Weight - 1lb 2.1oz

Head/Bezel Major OD - 68.5mm

Body OD - 42.1mm

Body ID - 34.5mm

Body Length - 175mm

Pill Major OD - 42.05mm

Driver OD - 28.2mm

Contact Plate OD - 34.6mm

Driver Pocket ID - 29.95mm and Depth - 21.5mm

Reflector OD 58.85mm

Reflector Depth - 39mm

Lens OD - 59.58mm

Reflector is Plastic

Lens is Plastic

A screw holds the reflector on from inside the pill.

The driver is wrapped with Kapton tape to keep it from shorting.

The Driver retainer ring is REVERSE THREADED!

The Batteries measured 1.585V, 1.584V, 1.585V from the package

Amps on High at turn on were 4.5 amps, after 30 seconds it stabilized at 4 amps. At turn on, the amps Slowly came up to 4.5 (about 4 seconds of slowly rising). Low mode was 500mA.

Part# 1000 016 980

SKU# 6 94377720454

As far as I am concerned, it's not worth modding, but it would be a great 500-600 lumen light for a novice, due to the ability to use D Alkalines. Two modes, high and low. There is noticeable PWM on HIGH, but not on LOW, (with my camera, not by eye).

I believe it is painted, not Anodized. All threads are poor to just passing. The plastic lens and reflector are fair to poor.

As I say, great light for a novice or for the average person who wants a really bright light that will not last long on Alkaline batteries. Drawing 4 amps off Alkalines is like shooting yourself in the foot.

I'm returning it to the store. I only got it to give you guys a look see.

I just measured the leds. They are XP format, not XM format. Probably XP-G2 and it would be about right, 4 amps, 3 leds in parallel, 1.33 amps per led.

Thanks for sharing .

Looks like it uses XML2 leds… first time that I’ve seen /2 LEDs in a mass marker light.

XP-G2 leds. They are way too small to be XM-L2

EDIT: Definitely XP sized leds. I just compared them to XM sized.

A bit disappointing, thanks for the info though.

The build is at least original, nice big MCPCB, the driver has exposed generously tinned pads for some heat dissipation, being wrapped in kapton tape is not only electrically insulating the driver but also thermally.

Would anyone not use anodizing since it's the most common aluminum finish? anodizing can be very poor also.

Thanks for the tear down OL. If its not to late what diameter do you think each individual reflector would be if it was a full circle?

Thank you very much. Great pictures and info. No wonder I couldn't get that retaining ring off.

Unless that MCPCB is direct bond copper (I'm betting it's aluminum), it appears to have very poor heat sinking. I see no trace coming out from under the thermal pad part of the emitters. Any info on that?

I like the head. If the price goes down enough, this might be good host material.

Thanks again.

I still have it at home. I did not have time to take it back before work, so I can check when I get home.

It's an aluminum mcpcb and it is strange looking. I haven't seen one like that before. I didn't get super serious with it, but I would think it should suffice for the XP-G2 leds on there. There is a solid shelf below the star and it looks to be about 1-1.5mm thick. I just don't see modding it, as there are better lights for that at about the same price, but since it is here in the US, it is handy to get.

I just picked up one from home depot today. Overall not a bad light compared to what you would expect to find at home depot, but nothing special, especially compared to what we normally see around here for $30. I mostly wanted something that ran on primaries to replace the 2D maglight that stays in my truck since all my other bright (>150 lm) LED lights run on lithium.

When they drop below $20 I’ll get one. That threading and that finish, now way it’s a $30 light.

Thanks for the great images OL. It's always interesting to look at the inside. More stuff in there than most folks think!!

Thanks Again. Dan

I’m sorry, I forgot to say thanks as well. I really appreciate you breaking it down for review. :slight_smile:

I think the inherent design has potential. 3 XP-G2s in really deep reflectors merged a little at the top, all driven off of 4 amps? That to me seems like it could have some serious throw and a good bit of spill as well. The star is a bit unique but it may well be workable. As a modding base it might not be terribly practical but it’s a D-cell light that has more horsepower than a MagLite can ever hope to have, and for maybe $20 it would be worth it.

…And it gives one a reason to buy a pair of 32650’s. 0:)

The moral decline of America has reached Tyler TX.

Taking a light completely apart and planning on returning it, shame on you! Complete disregard for the honor system. Nothing wrong with the light. No fault of the manufacturer, certainly no fault of the seller.

What a shame.

Bite Me.Tongue Out Just joking wid ya…

I guarantee one thing, after I tear one down and put it back together, it's better than it was new. The threads are all lubed and everything is tight instead of loose or misaligned. It will go back on the shelf and someone will buy it and throw it in the back of their pickup truck, till it looks just like the pile of beer cans it got thrown into...

These just went on clearance sale at a local HD for $7 bucks each.
I found three of them & picked them up. May mod one to a shorty single 26650 or use the others to modify the heads as Snowplow auxiliary lights on my truck with high & low beams.

1000 lumen…bahahahaha

Not when you’re done with it OL >)

Oh a 28mm driver? I wonder if Mattus’s knucklehead with that much room would work out better, or wights buck driver….hmmmm

They have a new version of it currently on sale for $25. Is the one mentioned in this thread different than this one - http://www.homedepot.com/p/Defiant-1000-Lumens-LED-Flashlight-HD14Q407/205183463

Is this newer model any better than last years?

Thanks,

EDIT: Never mind, I found the thread here - New Defiant lights at Home Depot (Pics added)

Anybody know of a 3D battery tube with a side switch that will fit this light? I don’t like tail switches on a light this large. Does anybody know if the battery tube from a Defiant 51 LED light w/ its 4aa battery pack would work with this light? Will the threads be compatible? Would there be any problems with voltage?