I’m currently using the IMREN 22/60A LMR26650 5500mah batteries in my L6 and it loves them. They are a flat top at 67.21 mm in length
Oh, that’s an improvement over the old models 3 minute timer.
I don”t really see the need for protected cells in this light as long as you use good quality matched cells.
I can”t comment on whether your seller has legit cells or not but I bought Thorfire protected 5000mah 26650 cells about a year ago now.
They tested at about 5000mah & are going strong 12 months on.
I am not 100% sure that they are protected but that has not been an issue as my 26650 lights have LVW/LVP & the S70s also shows cell status via the illuminated mode switch, the cell seems very good.
They were about $11 a pair on a deal on Amazon UK so your seller may well be genuine.
I know that Thorfire cells are generally good, their 3000mah 18650”s are re-wrapped Samsung 30B”s.
If you want really good & cheap 26650”s get Liitokala 26650”s, they are about $5 :+1:
The stock original S70 draws about 5.5A.
One simple solder blob increases output to 5000 lumens :+1:
It was underrated by Thorfire at 3000 lumens when in reality when tested people reported about 3800 lumens stock.
Other than the couple of extra brightness modes & longer turbo (the original S70 handles heat very well not getting hot even after many multiple 3 minute runs on turbo, I think The Miller did 20 one after the other & reported it was only just warm) I do not know if the S70s is just the S70 with the correct lumen rating.
If it is then the solder blob will work 
I will find out when my S70s arrives 
A solder blob/short will work on the L6 as well, but you might smell burning from the driver. A proper resistor is recommended for good reliability. I wonder if the same is true with the S70?
I have no idea Jason but none of the members that have done the solder blob have reported any issues as far as I am aware
TBH at the best part of 4000 lumens the stock S70 is a very very bright light & I personally could not see the need for increasing output myself.
4000 lumens already has the “wow” factor & the light is bullet proof as stock :+1:
I am really looking forward to getting my S70s to see if it is just the S70 with a correct lumen rating (all be it with a couple of extra brightness modes & longer turbo) or if they really have upped the out put even more as the S70 was well under rated
The light handles heat very very well so the increased turbo time run will not be a problem nor would more lumens be :+1:
If the S70s is under rated like the S70 it could be closer to 5000 lumens 
Yes during my test for the review I bumped it back to turbo, see review for actual temps (click my username -> my threads and you should be able to find the review
It runs cooler then the L6 and with the same cell charge state is brighter.
What are you answering yes to? I missed the question.
That the S70 handles heat very very well as The Miller ran his on turbo immediately switching it back to turbo when it stepped down time after time & it only just got warm :+1:
this
EDIT heheh Ian, thanks!
Sorry TM I answered as I thought that you had gone off line
iirc I think that you mentioned that you had something to do with the increased number of modes on this light ?
If that is correct do you know if this is basically an S70 with a correct lumen rating or if this S70s is more powerful than the original S70 ?
Oh, I didn’t think there was any question about its heat handling.
But now that it’s been brought up, is it odd that the light doesn’t get hot like the Convoy L6?
If it generates the same output, shouldn’t it eventually get hot?
Even if it has more mass or even a half pound copper plate, over time the heat should soak in. I always heard that a light that gets hot quickly means it’s thermally efficient. Now I’m wondering if the S70 just traps the heat inside.
Barry asked a few questions to us before they finalised the s version (like how bright must the side switch be)
We have no further input then is given
And it is kind of funny, Barry said we could ask for review samples but none was asked (busy, already having the S70, other reviews to do)
I have seen reports of ledboard not making perfect contact in some S70 but mine is OK.
You know, I really like Simon and consider J-Dub74 as a friend so did not want to dive to deep into the two and just declared it tie
Bingo! Being this is such a Powerful Torch 3000-4000-5000 lumens, IF it handles heat so well it should get HOT! Common sense! Heat transfer, mitigation might be the term?
Thanks for the reply TM.
I was just wondering as it could just be the S70 with a more accurate rating or it could be different.
If it was different I was wondering (hoping) that maybe they had under rated the S70s by 800 lumens like the S70
I suppose I will have to wait to find out when my S70s arrives
I thought the S70 and S70s were much more long distance throwers than the L6? I read the entire thread and noone mentions this?
I can’t even see how the L6 is being compared to the S70 & S70s?
Please help me here because I was about to order an S70s but if it’s basically the same light output as a Convoy L6 I don’t see the need.
I “thought” the S70s range was like 700meters (definitely a thrower) whereas the Convoy L6 is more of a flood with a range of only 200-300m ?
As far as I can see, this is a totally different class flashlight……the ThoreFire S70 and S70s being a thrower?
THORFIRE S70s
Best ThorFire LED Flashlight
The New Upgraded ThorFire S70S flashlight emits an intense bright white beam of light that can be seen for miles.
It has a beam distance of around 680m. We add on standby mode and moonlight brightness mode to it,
which means you can use it more often and convenient.
Waterproof Design
Designed for military, law enforcement and outdoor activities;
This flashlight is designed to be shockproof and IPX8 waterproof, which means that it can be submersed down to two meters.
More Reasonable 6 Modes
The hidden strobe makes it ideal for emergency/help/warning/protection.
The new moonlight mode is convenient for you to check baby or do anything else that would not disturb others at night.
Features:
Brightness: 1-3960Lm
Power Source: 2 X 18650 Batteries or 2 X 26650 Batteries (Neither Included)
6 Modes: Low-Mid-High-Turbo-Strobe-Moonlight
IPX8 Waterproof & Shockproof
Hard anodized aircraft graded Aluminum Alloy Casing
Product Weight: 590g (Exclude the battery)
Size: approx 245mm (Length) X 35mm(Body Diameter) X 74mm(Head Diameter).
Maximum Runtime of 72 Hours at Low Output; runs on Medium for 18 Hours, on High for 3.75 Hours and on Moonlight for 480 Hours.
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CONVOY L6
Description:
The Convoy L6 is an extremely powerful and high performing handheld searchlight. It utilizes a CREE XHP70 N4 LED with a maximum output of 3800Lm, offering 4 brightness levels and a strobe mode. Sturdy die-cast unibody construction with anti-scratch knurling finish, you can count on the L6 in the toughest conditions. It is perfect for your outdoor adventures, camping trips and anywhere else you need a sufficient amount of light.
Main Features:
● CREE XHP70 N4 LED ( soldered on 20mm copper plate ), with a maximum output of 3800Lm
● Available body color and light color: black ( 6000 - 6500K / 5000K ), silver ( N4 1C / N2 3A )
● Die-cast unibody construction, ensuring that heat is delivered evenly and rapidly
● Instant Strobe: double click side switch to activate hidden Strobe mode
● 4 brightness levels: low 50mA - mid 200mA - high 1700mA - turbo 5000mA
● Dual switch: tail switch ( 125V 10A ) to turn on / off the light, side switch to select modes
● Waterproof in accordance with IPX-8 standard
● Orange peel reflector ( max D 67.8mm x H 48.2mm) offers a smooth and flood beam
● Anti-roll rugged design with detachable tactical ring
● Runs on 2pcs protected 26650 batteries that can withstand more than 6A current ( not included )
By alan Oct-24/2016 08:10:19
Question:
Hello Sir / Madam,fantastic looking flashlight,my question is how far will it throw?
Reply:
Hello alan
It is 200m.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions.
OK some fast measurements then:
same cells
left the lanyard on the L6 since it is a PITA to remove
L6 weighs in at 757gr
6 cutouts to create fins, shallow, deepest cut out 5.43mm but it has six parts where the fins are even less deep, about half and thaat for about 50% of the whole finned area.
S70 weighs in at 799gr
7 cut outs to create fins in top part of head, deepest 5.81mm
2 cut outs below that at ledboard height deepest 8.65mm
4 cutouts at either side of the part where the switch is, only 20% of thet part of the tube is fins, deepest 5.41mm
So the S70 is both blessed with more fins, deeper fins and more mass.
Not a big surprise is stays cooler, where the L6 can become too hot to handle comfortably.
It may trap more heat, hard to say. I don’t want to get too off topic on this thread. The bottom line is, it puts out the lumens and doesn’t burn up the driver. So I’m not worried about it.
I have an L6 with an extra R082 resistor and man its nice. Extra drivers can be bought from Simon as well. If the reviews of this new version S70s are good, I might pick one up. Lol
I’m interested in this “Standby” mode. Does this mean the side switch can turn the light on and off with the tail switch acting like a lock out? If so,. that would be cool.
ah and the bezel and lens are
L6 76gr
S70 44gr
reflector of the S70 is 15 gram more heavy.
MCPCB:
L6 a small 20mm ledboard
S70 a big slap of copper for the XHP70 to sit on
so no matter what aspect you look at, there really is a big cooling advantage for the S70 on all accounts. so each one would be giving the S70 an edge if the rest was the same, here they all stack up and thus become the big difference we can all feel and measure.
Nope, they are kinda twins.
Xhp70 lights will never be throwers.