Review : Amutorch JM70 xp-l hi , single cell VFM thrower

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‘‘Dear friend,Sorry for the confusion.
JM70 is our new product in 2017, had gone through two improvements. Because friends buy at a different time, there may be some differences with different tailcaps, with different mcpcb boards, with different modes etc.
About the sign on the box, Galuxia is also the trademark of our company. it’s brand Galuxia that makes on the flashlight, so Galuxia been written on the box.

The current sale of JM70 light is the same as the store described, low-mid-high-brightest(quick double)cycle -strobe(quick three click).
If have any other questions, Please let the friends in the forum contact me. ‘’

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can someone let me know if the driver retaining ring and side witch removable?

Nico -.-

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vidramon wrote:
‘‘Dear friend,Sorry for the confusion.
JM70 is our new product in 2017, had gone through two improvements. Because friends buy at a different time, there may be some differences with different tailcaps, with different mcpcb boards, with different modes etc.
About the sign on the box, Galuxia is also the trademark of our company. it’s brand Galuxia that makes on the flashlight, so Galuxia been written on the box.

The current sale of JM70 light is the same as the store described, low-mid-high-brightest(quick double)cycle -strobe(quick three click).
If have any other questions, Please let the friends in the forum contact me. ‘’

Thanks for your comment vidramon , i will add some of these info on my review , so future buyers will know .

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Nicolicous wrote:
can someone let me know if the driver retaining ring and side witch removable?

This is not a driver retaining ring, in fact it is soldered to the driver which is then glued in the light.
The switch is soldered on the driver

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giorgoskok wrote:
Thanks for your comment vidramon , i will add some of these info on my review , so future buyers will know .

No problem today I don’t have time for reply just copy paste a message from seller. So correct it, it is not from BG it is from manufacturer directly.

So it turn out that all is ok, just someone get older and someone newer version of this light, so I get older.
Don’t know I was skeptical when I was ordering it before 25 days, but now when I compare it with nitecore p30 at least it can get more distance for sure, it is not excelent, probably for this big reflector size must be monster, but compared to p30 which is better thrower from any stock C8 it is ok.

I read in review about modes at new model, but I’m not sure that I understand good. Question is can turbo mode be memorised ? So just tap rear switch turbo is on, turn it off, tap again on rear and turbo is there ?

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Yes, Olight M3XS-UT Javelot. The reflector is wider and if I fed the LED through a FET it should blast some Cd !

I hav to make a little correction on what I said, on mine the double click does Turbo and triple click does Strobe.
Can’t wait to have my TA driver with Narsil to truely enjoy it Cool

What driver exactly is about ?

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What kind of driver does it have?
Linear? FET?
I consider doing one with shaved SST-40…

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Pok wrote:
Mine, after spring bypassed.
Turbo : 1300 LM 220,000cd
Hi 670LM 115,000cd

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Ref.
Nitecore P30 1000LM 85,000cd
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Haikelite SC01
1700LM 52,000cd
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Utorch UT02 CW
1000LM 90,000cd
.
TN42 490,000cd

Wat? TN42 with 490Kcd only?
Mine is CW and does 659Kcd…

Amutorch with spring bypass only 220Kcd is nice tho.
Just a bit more then my (unmodded) Acebeam T20.

Cheers
Nico

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Anthon wrote:
Mine has XHP35 HI V3 3C, jaxman x1S driver with added R100. Does 1650lm and 280.000cd Side button no longer works

Did you mean XP-*L* HI V3 3C instead of X*HP*35 HI V3 3C?

I don’t know of any color binning for XHP35 HI “V3 3C”.

280Kcd is great output tho, nice!

Cheers
Nico

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According to Aliexpress there is already a new version of this light, wiht USB charging port.

Note that the design has changed as well: bezel now is black, knurling on the part of the head where the switch is located is gone and we now see a few radial cooling finds.
Also the cooling fins on the head are different: more and thinner fins = better heat dissipation.
The switch has also been changed, I think it looks a lot better then the old version.

See here (scroll down to see picture): New Amutorch

Quote text line in red: “de oudere JM70 zaklamp niet hebben een USB magnetische opladen functie, een speciale korting van 25%.”.

Translation: “older model JM70 flashlight does not have USB magnetic charging port, special discount 25%” (that is on the older version of course).

Cheers,
Nico

PS….Shit, it’s already on the forum………new version already on BLF……

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Got mine here look different, i dont like the fact that no off or standby mode using the e-switch.
Reflector has slight finger prints on the edge and the glass lens has flaws (circular marks).
I dont like the anodizing on this light feels cheap, maybe it is HAII?

Double click is finicky sometime it enggage to turbo sometimes it just switch to next mode, i think switch is too hard to press.
I am not into thrower so maybe i am biased, but i prefer XHP lights for more raw power to compensate for less throw.


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Any chance to see the charging circuit? Is it integral part of the driver or a separate board?

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rizky_p wrote:
Got mine here look different, i dont like the fact that no off or standby mode using the e-switch.
Reflector has slight finger prints on the edge and the glass lens has flaws (circular marks).
I dont like the anodizing on this light feels cheap, maybe it is HAII?

Double click is finicky sometime it enggage to turbo sometimes it just switch to next mode, i think switch is too hard to press.
I am not into thrower so maybe i am biased, but i prefer XHP lights for more raw power to compensate for less throw.

Yeah
The anodize looks cheap…I would of guess HAII as well.

Lucky I didn’t pull the trigger on this light. Just too many question marks on my mine when I saw the photos on banggood.com

Nico -.-

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Nicolicous wrote:

Yeah
The anodize looks cheap…I would of guess HAII as well.

Lucky I didn’t pull the trigger on this light. Just too many question marks on my mine when I saw the photos on banggood.com

the anodizing reminds me of Ultrafire lights although a bit nicer and smoother. Machining is good but not sure why they include an extra front glass though.

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Well………….got mine yesterday.

Pro:
1) Anodizing looks good
2) Led is perfectly centered
3) Lens has a blueish hue so I guess there’s some kind of coating on it
4) Charging port seems to work (charged 26650 in my Liitokala charger)
5) Packaging was very sturdy, light was very well protected
6) Nice beam and spill tint, nice NW, I like that.

+Con: +
1) The reflector seems odd; there seem to be a lot of fine machining markings and it seems “hazy” for a lack of better words to describe it.
2) Bezelring is light blue, don’t like that and would rather have a SS bezelring or a black aluminum one.
3) Red driver with no on/off from the electronic switch
4) Double click for (nicely bright) turbo is hard to engage; you sometimes just scroll through the normal modes
5) How the hell do you get the switch out of there ???

Pro & Con:
1) It doesn’t weigh a lot. Nice for carrying but I would have liked it to have more mass.

Conclusion: great midsize thrower for the money, so, as already stated, good VFM.

I made some pics to compare the reflector with my Acebeam T20 (roughly same size) and I compared both lights on turbo…………The Amutorch seems to have a slightly brighter hotspot.
Hopefully this week I’ll be able to do some measurements @ Djozz so I will post that then, but sofar it’s looking good.

To compare it to the already hyped Thrunite Catapult V6: roughly the same throw at half the price, nice.

Cheers,
Nico

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I have to make a correction on my “review” post.

The charging port on mine does *NOT *work.
If the light is on and you plug the USB cable in your PC the light turns off – so I assumed it started charging.
But it doesn’t, nothing happens. I had it plugged in for half an hour, checked the battery and nope, nothing.

Maybe I’m doing something wrong here but the manual is completely and only in Klingon so I just don’t know.

O well, I might me changing the driver anyway so…….

Cheers,
Nico

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So, as promised I measured the throw (today) and guess what? It’s not bad at all.
I measured 230+ Kcd with an almost fully charged Efest IMR 26650/3500.

In other words: more then what the Thrunite Scorpion V6 does at half the price.

I don’t have the latest and best 6000mAh cells, so with those it would be a little better stil.
Also, I haven’t modded it at all yet. 230+ Kcd stock is nice, very nice.
If a little tweeking can get it to around 250Kcd I’ll be quite happy.

Next I will bridge both springs and replace the wires from the driver to the led and post the results.

Cheers,
Nico

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Nicolaas wrote:
So, as promised I measured the throw (today) and guess what? It’s not bad at all.
I measured 230+ Kcd with an almost fully charged Efest IMR 26650/3500.

In other words: more then what the Thrunite Scorpion V6 does at half the price.

I don’t have the latest and best 6000mAh cells, so with those it would be a little better stil.
Also, I haven’t modded it at all yet. 230+ Kcd stock is nice, very nice.
If a little tweeking can get it to around 250Kcd I’ll be quite happy.

Next I will bridge both springs and replace the wires from the driver to the led and post the results.

Cheers,
Nico

That sounds great. I’m really impressed. Thanks…

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Good review George, thank you!! Thumbs Up

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I’ve got the second version of this light.
I posted my thoughts elsewhere, but this is a better place, so I moved them.

The first impression it made is the second worst of all my lights. Second after $1 plastic junk.

  • anodization doesn’t look nice (but I can’t tell if it’s sturdy or not)
  • light came dirty with some grease
  • switch cover is heavily scratched, as if it was heavily used in the item it was recycled from
  • bezel – colour looks bad, not like on pictures
  • bezel – has 4 black areas as if it was held by something during dyeing
  • dusty reflector
  • fuzzy reflector…and in some places has larger orange-peel-like imperfections.
  • LED off centre and not just a bit

Positives? OK, there are some too.

  • magnetic connector works well
  • the light is fairly lightweight and a bit smaller than I expected
  • threads are well lubricated (though the lube stinks badly)

Pics:
Black marks on the bezel, dust, off-centre emitter. The black marks actually look worse than the picture shows.

More dust:

Just another head photo which shows emitter position nicely. And more dust.

I failed to photo the orange-peel arease with my phone, but here’s a single ding in the reflector:

Switch cover. This photo exaggerates tiny dings. What really looks bad is scratched areas in the centre and near the rim. The switch is glossy, but in these places it’s matte, so that’s pretty visible.

Ring around the button doesn’t look like it was meant to be here from the start.
On the bottom you can see it’s dirty with something. I think it’s grease.

I didn’t manage to try it in action yet.

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This feels unreal…
I just tested charging.
Put inside a partially charged cell, 3.98 V.
Plug in, indicator LED turns on. The magnetic connector is superb!
Remove after 1 hour, it charged the cell to 3.98 V.

Maybe something went wrong, try again for 15 minutes.
Result? 3.98 V.

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Agro wrote:
This feels unreal…
I just tested charging.
Put inside a partially charged cell, 3.98 V.
Plug in, indicator LED turns on. The magnetic connector is superb!
Remove after 1 hour, it charged the cell to 3.98 V.

Maybe something went wrong, try again for 15 minutes.
Result? 3.98 V.

It seems to be vety consistent at least…. Facepalm . Wink

That sux….. Sad

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Agro wrote:
This feels unreal…
I just tested charging.
Put inside a partially charged cell, 3.98 V.
Plug in, indicator LED turns on. The magnetic connector is superb!
Remove after 1 hour, it charged the cell to 3.98 V.

Maybe something went wrong, try again for 15 minutes.
Result? 3.98 V.

Did you switch on the tail cap switch? It breaks the contact and battery is not charging even if the indicator light is on.

P.S. my blue bezel has the same black marks as yours, but I seem lucky with well centered led and good reflector.

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If only it had a 4000-4500k LED inside instead of a 6500k one.

Would have been dope to give to a police officer of mine with a magnetic connector.

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yasenf wrote:
Agro wrote:
This feels unreal…
I just tested charging.
Put inside a partially charged cell, 3.98 V.
Plug in, indicator LED turns on. The magnetic connector is superb!
Remove after 1 hour, it charged the cell to 3.98 V.

Maybe something went wrong, try again for 15 minutes.
Result? 3.98 V.

Did you switch on the tail cap switch? It breaks the contact and battery is not charging even if the indicator light is on.


Stupid me Facepalm
Will try again when I’m back home.
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Well, to add to my posts: the bezelring on my light is a very pale blue as well, it has 4 of these black markings as well, and the switch cover looks as scratched as the others………….but these are minor issues.

A major issue is that the charging on mine doesn’t seem to work either.
I will try again with the manual switch “on” and post result.

Tip for led not centered: they probably screwed the head on without looking if it was done properly (hence the dirt on the reflector and the rease on the lens).
1) screw the bezelring off and remove everything.
2) blow the dust of the reflector with compressed air (I use a can of compressed air)
3) if not available you can use demineralized water to clean the reflector. Do NOT touch it under any circumstances
4) clean the lens (I use warm water with a litte dishwashing detergent)
5) put everything together but do not screw the bezelring on tight, leave some room so the reflector can move a bit
6) gently tap the light in the direction you want the reflector to move over the led positioning ring
7) when in place correctly, gently screw the bezelring on tight

So far, and especially for the price, I’m quite happy with this light.

Cheers
Nico

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Anyone try to unscrew the tail switch or take the driver out to do some mods .

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Anyone try to unscrew the tail switch or take the driver out to do some mods .

Nope.
Monday I’m @ Djozz’ and we will bridge both springs (so the “tailcap” switch will have to come out) and maybe replace driver wires.

Some good news though!
I put in a cell with 4,04V, turned the light on and used the onboard charger.
The charging port light on the light went red and went dead after some time.
Took the cell out, measured it and…..4,18V.
Nice.

Grtz
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So…………..focus couldn’t be improved, the reflector is not the best ever but it will do.
Both springs bridged and measured with Djozz’ Mobilux (my elcheapo LX1330B always exaggerates CW around 9-10%) and now we got a dependable 240Kcd.
Not bad as I paid slightly over €30,00.

I suspect the XP-L HI in the light is not the latest version so I might upgrade to V3 (I like the 3C binning a lot) at a later point.

Cheers,
Nico

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JM70

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Measured at 10 meter distance.

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@Hardusvd70 is that stock light without any mod?

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