Thanks for the answers about the SRK vs. M6 potential brightness.
It looks like the SRK is definitely all over the board for current draw. Here the reviewer got 7.5A whereas in this thread they measured between 6.63A and 5.35A. So I guess it’s hard to predict how bright this new M6 will be in comparison. Like markito said a few posts above, I also wouldn’t mod this if I bought it, so out the box brightness is all I would get.
It appears that the SRK can be used with less than 4 batteries if desired (because they are in a parallel circuit). So the same goes for the M6, correct?
Another question: How much parasitic drain would the M6 pull on the switch when turned off, and is lockout possible?
I guess that the parasitic drain would depend on their design, but the pics on their website seem to show that the body threads are anodized, with no ano on the front. I think that that would mean lockout would work by loosening the battery tube/body a bit, right?
It appears that the SRK can be used with less than 4 batteries if desired (because they are in a parallel circuit). So the same goes for the M6, correct?
Yes, correct. Should be possible.
sb56637 wrote:
Another question: How much parasitic drain would the M6 pull on the switch when turned off, and is lockout possible?
A proper test/review would give definitive answers to these questions..
the pics on their website seem to show that the body threads are anodized, with no ano on the front. I think that that would mean lockout would work by loosening the battery tube/body a bit, right?
the pics on their website seem to show that the body threads are anodized, with no ano on the front. I think that that would mean lockout would work by loosening the battery tube/body a bit, right?
Thanks for the answers about the SRK vs. M6 potential brightness.
It looks like the SRK is definitely all over the board for current draw. Here the reviewer got 7.5A whereas in this thread they measured between 6.63A and 5.35A. So I guess it’s hard to predict how bright this new M6 will be in comparison. Like markito said a few posts above, I also wouldn’t mod this if I bought it, so out the box brightness is all I would get.
It appears that the SRK can be used with less than 4 batteries if desired (because they are in a parallel circuit). So the same goes for the M6, correct?
Another question: How much parasitic drain would the M6 pull on the switch when turned off, and is lockout possible?
If each LED was getting 2.5A as claimed, that would mean somewhere between 5.0-7.5A current draw from the cells, considering that the driver is a proper buck driver with a decent efficiency. 2.5A to each LED would be ideal, but as seen with the SRK’s, there can be a lot of variability from revision to revision or manufacturers.
I’m assuming that all the 50 or so of the M6’s will be from the same batch, so a proper current measurement probably will be consistent with other M6’s that we receive.
I was able to run my SRK with 4, 3, 2, and with careful battery positioning, 1 18650 cell, and the battery holder for this M6 looks basically the same, so I believe so.
I measured my parasitic drain to be about 1.5mW, but that’s not a current I was comfortable with so I locked it out by turning it about 30 degrees, for the threads were anodized. Judging from the pictures of the M6, I also think the threads are anodized and thus allow the light to be locked out.
I’m willing to chip in to cover the DHL fees for the’s review.
If Supfire could cover that, it would be a strong cornerstone towards building their brand image.
@pulsar could you confirm about the chinese letter on the light?i prefer there is none since i don’t understand it. and since it will shipped with CN post i hope they handle it with care,i’ve seen a video how they treat a package really bad by throwing them and such
It’s been confirmed several times that they won’t do a custom version for us unless there’s a 1000 unit order. I’d appreciate it if you’d order 950.
oops forgot that :bigsmile:
anyone can confirm if this light can fit 69mm cells?
@pulsar could you confirm about the chinese letter on the light?i prefer there is none since i don’t understand it. and since it will shipped with CN post i hope they handle it with care,i’ve seen a video how they treat a package really bad by throwing them and such
It’s been confirmed several times that they won’t do a custom version for us unless there’s a 1000 unit order. I’d appreciate it if you’d order 950.
oops forgot that :bigsmile:
anyone can confirm if this light can fit 69mm cells?
Since no one has this light, nothing has been confirmed. Heck, I barely trust what the sales rep has told us so far.
I'm neutral on the "wait for review" or "shut up and take my money" vote. :D
To be honest, so am I.
It all depends on the manufacturer and their ability to make (late) fixes / changes based on our feedback: - defects found in review & manufacturer makes no fixes => failed GB, everyone unhappy, including the manufacturer - defects found in review & manufacturer fixes the defects => everyone happy (except that it takes time -> some people are annoyed) - no defects found in review & no fixes needed => delay, some people annoyed
I'm neutral on the "wait for review" or "shut up and take my money" vote. :D
To be honest, so am I.
It all depends on the manufacturer and their ability to make (late) fixes / changes based on our feedback: - defects found in review & manufacturer makes no fixes => failed GB, everyone unhappy, including the manufacturer - defects found in review & manufacturer fixes the defects => everyone happy (except that it takes time -> some people are annoyed) - no defects found in review & no fixes needed => delay, some people annoyed
im not so sure they are going to make late fixes or changes depending on the review to be honest. and i am also not sure they really are positive of the dimensions and specs. but either way i am in for one unless the GB falls through
I'm neutral on the "wait for review" or "shut up and take my money" vote. :D
To be honest, so am I.
It all depends on the manufacturer and their ability to make (late) fixes / changes based on our feedback: - defects found in review & manufacturer makes no fixes => failed GB, everyone unhappy, including the manufacturer - defects found in review & manufacturer fixes the defects => everyone happy (except that it takes time -> some people are annoyed) - no defects found in review & no fixes needed => delay, some people annoyed
Another scenario;
-No review defects found as people receive their lights. Can, worms, open.
For $33 I'm willing to take the risk, but if it's a matter of waiting a week or two, I'd rather wait.
I'll cheap in a bit for DHL if needed, pm me your paypal.
the plan was to offer _the_ to pay his $33 as agreed by the group buy, and for the review they upgrade for free to DHL. not sure if they will agree or not
the chinese text can not be removed. that would be considered a custom run and they do not typically do that for orders under 1,000 pieces
it is what it is but I still find this request from them a bit silly, since laser engraving is one of the last if not the last phase of manufacturing only thing after that is final quality control (if there is any) and packaging, they could just skip engraving step, light without any inscription is better then light with inscription that I don’t understand.
But, as I said, it is what it is, can’t force them, one day they will realise/learn by themselves…
like i have said before, im pretty sure we are getting the very first run of this model. no retailers have gotten it yet. they said they had just completed the first of them last month and they are just now getting ready to market it. i just happened to find it right when they first posted it up i guess
the plan was to offer the to pay his $33 as agreed by the group buy, and for the review they upgrade for free to DHL. not sure if they will agree or not
Sorry for coming late into the party. Anyway, the way I understand it is for the group to buy the $33 light, have it delivered to the for review, know its innards before the whole group plunge into this GB?
If I understand it correctly to be so, (and befor anything else, let it be known that I have no idea about modding), I am volunteering to buy the light from Supfire for $33, then have it addressed to the for review. If the more experienced modders among us here will also volunteer to mod this light for free, then hopefully in the end I get a souped-up M6, the modder/taker gets to experiment with this light, (I can help defray the costs) everyone gets to know this light before taking the plunge, I take as much risk as buying an SRK clone of a clone. If this is fair enough please let me know. If not then I apologize for disturbing the peace!
if the can get it DHL then that only means roughly a one week wait delay and thats not a big deal. in one week they arent going to make a 2nd generation or have knock off knock offs………
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LPF Member: Livinloud
Budget flashlight enthusiast turned into lumen freak
you can explain to them this is a good thing since it will allow more time for members to join the GB and once the has done his great review people will see how “great” the light is so this will attract more members to join as well. win-win for them. i say “great” since its a pitch to them and you dont want to talk about the slight chance it could be crap.
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LPF Member: Livinloud
Budget flashlight enthusiast turned into lumen freak
well first off why would you care since your part of this GB. even if they do raise the price for people outside the GB, which im 100% sure once this GB is over, why would you care since you are getting one as part of the GB=GB price. thats what a GB is, we get lower prices since we get a bunch of people to buy at once.
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LPF Member: Livinloud
Budget flashlight enthusiast turned into lumen freak
I am volunteering to buy the light from Supfire for $33, then have it addressed to the for review. If the more experienced modders among us here will also volunteer to mod this light for free, then hopefully in the end I get a souped-up M6, the modder/taker gets to experiment with this light, (I can help defray the costs) everyone gets to know this light before taking the plunge, I take as much risk as buying an SRK clone of a clone. If this is fair enough please let me know. If not then I apologize for disturbing the peace!
+1
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“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” – Sydney Carton in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’ by Charles Dickens (1812-1870).
I meant before we actually pull the trigger while we wait for the review. If the review is stellar, a lot more members will want to get in on the group buy. Dont want others who are on the fence to miss out on the price.
I guess that the parasitic drain would depend on their design, but the pics on their website seem to show that the body threads are anodized, with no ano on the front. I think that that would mean lockout would work by loosening the battery tube/body a bit, right?
Yes, correct. Should be possible.
Another question: How much parasitic drain would the M6 pull on the switch when turned off, and is lockout possible?
A proper test/review would give definitive answers to these questions..
=the=
Right.
=the=
Thanks. I guess that I’m learning, eh :)!
If each LED was getting 2.5A as claimed, that would mean somewhere between 5.0-7.5A current draw from the cells, considering that the driver is a proper buck driver with a decent efficiency. 2.5A to each LED would be ideal, but as seen with the SRK’s, there can be a lot of variability from revision to revision or manufacturers.
I’m assuming that all the 50 or so of the M6’s will be from the same batch, so a proper current measurement probably will be consistent with other M6’s that we receive.
I was able to run my SRK with 4, 3, 2, and with careful battery positioning, 1 18650 cell, and the battery holder for this M6 looks basically the same, so I believe so.
I measured my parasitic drain to be about 1.5mW, but that’s not a current I was comfortable with so I locked it out by turning it about 30 degrees, for the threads were anodized. Judging from the pictures of the M6, I also think the threads are anodized and thus allow the light to be locked out.
I’m willing to chip in to cover the DHL fees for the’s review.
If Supfire could cover that, it would be a strong cornerstone towards building their brand image.
Edit: You guys beat me to it!
BLF ≠ B-grade Flashlight Forum
OK, for $33 shipped with tracking I’m in for one (1). Although if the majority prefer to wait for
_the_
’s review I don’t have a problem with waiting.Thanks Pulsar for organizing this! Looks like a good one.
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I would prefer to wait for the's review, but I'm in either way.
I’m neutral on the “wait for review” or “shut up and take my money” vote.
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oops forgot that :bigsmile:
anyone can confirm if this light can fit 69mm cells?
Since no one has this light, nothing has been confirmed. Heck, I barely trust what the sales rep has told us so far.
Video of my UniqueFire UF-2100 vs UniqueFire G10
Video of my TrustFire X9 vs Keygos KE5
To be honest, so am I.
It all depends on the manufacturer and their ability to make (late) fixes / changes based on our feedback:
- defects found in review & manufacturer makes no fixes => failed GB, everyone unhappy, including the manufacturer
- defects found in review & manufacturer fixes the defects => everyone happy (except that it takes time -> some people are annoyed)
- no defects found in review & no fixes needed => delay, some people annoyed
=the=
Just tested with my SRK and 70mm cells do work just fine.
There’s a high chance that this light will be fine as well.
BLF ≠ B-grade Flashlight Forum
ok i will try to get all these answered in one:
they claim driver size is 50mm, but also the battery tube 50mm, so i dont see how the driver can be also.
paypal will go directly to them. i wouldnt expect anyone to trust me with this kind of money
the chinese text can not be removed. that would be considered a custom run and they do not typically do that for orders under 1,000 pieces
at this point we seem about 50/50 on wait for review vs shut up and take my money.
whew. think i got it all...?
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im not so sure they are going to make late fixes or changes depending on the review to be honest. and i am also not sure they really are positive of the dimensions and specs. but either way i am in for one unless the GB falls through
-the- Throw calculator - Pulsars list
Another scenario;
-No review defects found as people receive their lights. Can, worms, open.
For $33 I'm willing to take the risk, but if it's a matter of waiting a week or two, I'd rather wait.
I'll cheap in a bit for DHL if needed, pm me your paypal.
the plan was to offer _the_ to pay his $33 as agreed by the group buy, and for the review they upgrade for free to DHL. not sure if they will agree or not
-the- Throw calculator - Pulsars list
it is what it is but I still find this request from them a bit silly, since laser engraving is one of the last if not the last phase of manufacturing only thing after that is final quality control (if there is any) and packaging, they could just skip engraving step, light without any inscription is better then light with inscription that I don’t understand.
But, as I said, it is what it is, can’t force them, one day they will realise/learn by themselves…
like i have said before, im pretty sure we are getting the very first run of this model. no retailers have gotten it yet. they said they had just completed the first of them last month and they are just now getting ready to market it. i just happened to find it right when they first posted it up i guess
-the- Throw calculator - Pulsars list
As I have asked in a couple of other posts, any chance we can find out the throw figure for this light?
Jim
Sorry for coming late into the party. Anyway, the way I understand it is for the group to buy the $33 light, have it delivered to the for review, know its innards before the whole group plunge into this GB?
If I understand it correctly to be so, (and befor anything else, let it be known that I have no idea about modding), I am volunteering to buy the light from Supfire for $33, then have it addressed to the for review. If the more experienced modders among us here will also volunteer to mod this light for free, then hopefully in the end I get a souped-up M6, the modder/taker gets to experiment with this light, (I can help defray the costs) everyone gets to know this light before taking the plunge, I take as much risk as buying an SRK clone of a clone. If this is fair enough please let me know. If not then I apologize for disturbing the peace!
I might be in for one, if you finally decide to wait for _the_´s review (and of course, If the review is positive!)
Mooooooo
Wait for the review Please.
Damn Addictions
if the can get it DHL then that only means roughly a one week wait delay and thats not a big deal. in one week they arent going to make a 2nd generation or have knock off knock offs………
LPF Member: Livinloud
Budget flashlight enthusiast turned into lumen freak
so far it seems that trying to get _the_ one mailed DHL seems to have taken the lead.
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you can explain to them this is a good thing since it will allow more time for members to join the GB and once the has done his great review people will see how “great” the light is so this will attract more members to join as well. win-win for them. i say “great” since its a pitch to them and you dont want to talk about the slight chance it could be crap.
LPF Member: Livinloud
Budget flashlight enthusiast turned into lumen freak
Or the review shows how wonderful this light is and they decide to raise the price for those outside the original 50.
Video of my UniqueFire UF-2100 vs UniqueFire G10
Video of my TrustFire X9 vs Keygos KE5
well first off why would you care since your part of this GB. even if they do raise the price for people outside the GB, which im 100% sure once this GB is over, why would you care since you are getting one as part of the GB=GB price. thats what a GB is, we get lower prices since we get a bunch of people to buy at once.
LPF Member: Livinloud
Budget flashlight enthusiast turned into lumen freak
+1
“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.” – Sydney Carton in ‘A Tale of Two Cities’ by Charles Dickens (1812-1870).
I meant before we actually pull the trigger while we wait for the review. If the review is stellar, a lot more members will want to get in on the group buy. Dont want others who are on the fence to miss out on the price.
But then again, you snooze you lose I guess.
Video of my UniqueFire UF-2100 vs UniqueFire G10
Video of my TrustFire X9 vs Keygos KE5
i personally dont think they would do that. i think they would prefer to sell as many pieces as possible in this group buy
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