CANCELED - Group buy feeler thread: Ultrafire LW-12T6

On the other side of the argument... by all means take your time, my wallet is really hurting from all the recent group buys.

Do agree though, orders need to be in before end of september, otherwise we're not likely to see them until november.

I don't mind if it takes a little longer. I'll be moving soon, so a delay in the group buy could prevent shipping issues. I agree on not waiting too long due to the holidays, but I think it could wait couple more weeks into October if they ship it out quickly.

FYI, you don’t need to wait 60 days for delivery from China except batteries!

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You misunderstood my post. It is going on 60 days since this group buy was first announced and they STILL are not even taking orders. As we get into the Christmas buying season for personal gifts the China Post and US Customs delay times increase noticeably and the increased volume means more chance of package mishandling related damage or loss.

Oooh! Indeed! Due to “the” lost the first sample & he is expecting the second one nextweek. I think the gb should be activated within this month.

Please add me to the list and pm details, when available.

Please add me to the list as well and PM me when you have the info.

This gb is really moving slow. I may go ahead to purchase from fastech!

So how is this gb progressing. Is there a light at the end of the tunnel yet??

I think this gb is dead!

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Not dead, but in severe condition. We are currently performing CPR activities to get it back. ;)

The second sample wasn't functioning properly -> needs at lest one more round of iteration. ON the bright side, we are trying to get NW emitters included at the same time..

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Any company that does not make sure that an evaluation sample is working correctly MAKES ME VERY NERVOUS. Either they do not understand what is wanted which means that there is a communications barrier or you are being given the run around to see the minimum cost version they can get you to accept, a well known Chinese business tactic.

I'm willing to wait, but it they can't pull it off, see about selling it as a host. Just the reflector, contact board and switch. We supply our own driver, mcpcb's and emitters. It'd cost more, but it could be significantly better. DTP mcpcb's, XM-L2 U2 NW, BLFDD... The host price would have to be really good though, otherwise the project costs way too much. $30 shipped??

Based on one recent post from RMM I get the impression that virtually All of these high output 12 LED lights have major thermal issues except for the Trustfire TR-J20 which weighs about twice what this does, can use 32650 batteries and as delivered is a lower output light. Also it costs considerably more and should make a better club. As a monster light I have the TrustFire TR-S700 arriving today and while it is lower output it again reportedly has minimal to no thermal issues which is worthwhile in my opinion. It is also a lot shorter, has a continuously variable output UI and has a handle.

For starters I wish that the ANSI standards had a requirement to list the maximum CONTINUOUS Lumens output a light could sustain at say 68 F ambient temperature (20C) with no cooling breeze and without either damage or overheating so it is too hot to comfortably hold. That would give a lot better genuine output capability picture than the current lights which cannot sustain their listed Turbo output for more than a minute or three due to thermal limitations. As bad are the ones that have outputs that their batteries cannot sustain for more than a very short time.

See RMM’s comment above about his tests of the 12 LED lights he has tested. Not trying to discourage the group buy but figure people need to know what they are getting based on one professional customizer’s experience and opinion.

TRJ20 would be a wonderful option, except for the price.

The issue with regards to thermal sag, is a problem on all the lights pushing near the limits. I don't know about others, but for myself, I very rarely find myself using Turbo for more than a few seconds at a time.

I also am aware of how I use flashlights.

I totally agree!

Any news on how this gb is going??