Chloe
(Chloe)
October 8, 2013, 2:57pm
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Jasmine posted this notice about buying cells (updated 17 October ):
http://www.fasttech.com/forums/stickies/t/1056805/please-read-this-if-you-re-planning-to-purchase-e
Please Read This If You’re Planning to purchase E-liquids/Lithium Batteries (Singapore Post is No Longer Able to Ship Batteries/Knives) Updated on 10/10/2013
Singapore Post has been temporarily removed due to their contradictory information regarding banned substances. For more information, please see here
Given current strict inspection of the aviation security, packages containing e-liquids/lithium batteries barely unable to ship via airmails anymore, but according to the tracking information of the packages which were containing batteries, we do see many recent deliveries.
In order to receive your package smoothly, please make sure to purchase e-liquids/lithium batteries in an individual order if you still want to give it a try. Please DON'T select Singapore Post because we've confirmed Singapore Post will refuse all packages that containing lithium batteries/Knives. If you've chosen SGP shipment, the order might get swapped to HKP automatically. Refund will be issued as soon as the package is failed to pass through Hong Kong Post and returned.
Refund will be issued as soon as the package is returned.
There is an exception to purchase the e-liquids/lithium batteries together with other products: the batteries in the order can be inserted into the product. Ex. Customer purchase a flashlight using 2*18650 batteries, and also purchase 2*18650 batteries, we will insert the batteries with insulation pads into the flashlight. This can ensure the package get ship out smoothly.
We'll look into specialized and proper shipping services and will update in this thread if there is any further process.
We will also put a warning on e-liquids/lithium batteries product page within today.
Thank you.
Update : Geek posted this sticky today about Singapore Post:
http://www.fasttech.com/forums/stickies/t/1059742/singapore-post-is-temporarily-unavailable
Singapore Post is temporarily unavailable
Dear valued customers,
Singapore Post had proven to be a reliable carrier for many months and FastTech was pleased to be able to offer it as an option to all customers.
Unfortunately, they have caused FastTech a lot of grief in the recent week -- mostly due to the way their management works, as exposed by the recent postal union's battery "crackdown". Without going into lengthy details, Singapore Post's management has told FastTech that products with built-in batteries can be shipped but their frontline staffs often reject these packages claiming it's an order from the management, causing unnecessary delays to packages.
Hong Kong Post, on the other hand, has almost returned to normal operations.
For the interest of customers, FastTech is temporarily taking the Singapore Post shipping offline until a clearer policy and more professional practice is received from them.
If your order is pending to be shipped via Singapore Post, it will either continue to ship via Singapore Post, or it will be re-routed to Hong Kong Post. Again, Hong Kong Post's service performance is improving everyday and is almost back to the pre-crackdown state.
We apologize for this inconvenience. We will continue communicating with Singapore Post and we will restore this shipping option as soon as their current issues are resolved.
Thank you.
FastTech Team
ryansoh3
(ryansoh3)
October 8, 2013, 3:10pm
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Thanks for sharing!
I wish Jasmine would be more active around here. :~
Chloe
(Chloe)
October 8, 2013, 3:30pm
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I wish too but she must be so busy with the new staff. :~
eebowler
(eebowler)
October 8, 2013, 4:39pm
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Thanks Chloe for paying attention to what’s going on and all the updates
ryansoh3
(ryansoh3)
October 8, 2013, 4:40pm
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Just saw the first comment,
Hope the new staff training goes well.
Thank you so much Chloe, for keeping us informed!
keltex78
(keltex78)
October 8, 2013, 5:01pm
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I noticed that the USPS office here has a notice saying that bare li-ion cells can't be shipped internationally, but cells installed in devices CAN be shipped. (stupid? yes....) So this sounds like a workaround. Take the bare cells, place them in a sealed tube so that any 'venting' will be accompanied via a significant explosion, with shrapnel...
So, what's the cheapest 2x 18650 host on Fasttech?
Here's the 501d for $16.04:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1601/10002031/1145704-ultrafire-wf-501d-warm-white-xenon-flashlight-w-st
How about a box? These can be closed with cells installed and are inexpensive...
2x18650 - $2.84 https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10003498/1258801-218650-battery-holder-case-box
4x18650 - $4.07 https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10003990/1286603-diy-234-x-18650-batteries-holder-case-box-mobile-p
Love that! First it was Meth Labs, now it will be Li-ion Labs. No more buying Li-ions, or we will be put under police watch and Homeland Security will come to our doors with automatic weapons! Mandatory 20 year sentence for having more than six Li-ions in your home! Possession with intent to distribute...
I'm gonna go back to doing NiMH lights.
mfm
(mfm)
October 8, 2013, 5:17pm
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Cells doesn’t spontaneously vent. A flastlight would prevent from outside damage (of course it must be protected from short circuit or activation).
keltex78
(keltex78)
October 8, 2013, 5:29pm
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...um... That was supposed to be sarcastic humor. If spontaneous venting isn't what we are scared of, then what's the problem?
eebowler
(eebowler)
October 8, 2013, 5:49pm
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I’d guess selling cells installed in flashllights is to prevent detectio
n and not for the sake of safety…
Somewhere in one of these shipping threads is a post office quote stating that the batteries enclosed in a device (flashlight or otherwise) is fine, but by themselves is not allowed.
koyotee
(koyotee)
October 8, 2013, 6:52pm
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This is no problem, so just order
Do we have to somehow tell them to install the batteries into the light, or will they do that automatically?
koyotee
(koyotee)
October 8, 2013, 7:02pm
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There is an exception to purchase the e-liquids/lithium batteries together with other products: the batteries in the order can be inserted into the product. Ex. Customer purchase a flashlight using 2*18650 batteries, and also purchase 2*18650 batteries, we will insert the batteries with insulation pads into the flashlight. This can ensure the package get ship out smoothly.
did you read or just stu*?
Well I read “can” implied to me that it’s an option. It could just be language barrier though and they meant “will” though that could be misconstrued as well… Perhaps I’m reading into it too much.
Me thinks koyotee is just being a d*.
RMM
(RMM)
October 8, 2013, 7:16pm
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I read through the typically vague USPS regulations this morning. It appears that as long as the batteries are installed in a device which is protected from turning on/short circuiting in transit, then you are within the rules.
FT would be technically be in compliance by inserting the batteries into devices with insulation disks, like they are proposing doing.
The problem is, as with so many of these agencies, that they subjectively choose when and how to enforce the regulations with little to no oversight.