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Riccardo wrote:
I greet all my friends; sorry if I don’t write well in English, but I’m Italian and I live in Rome; I’m a fan of emisar torches; I have all but d1s; a question about muggle mode; about 3 days ago the D18 arrived; I know the Anduril interface very well and I could see that my Emisar d18 doesn’t have muggle mode; Hank told me by e-mail that this is a new firmware that does not have muggle mode; unlike the previous series, it can be reset to factory settings; I kindly ask for clarifications, because all my friends who have emisar d18, have the torch with muggle mode; I greet everyone and thank you if you can help me on this matter

I saw you posted at CPF, too, so I’ll copy this here in case you don’t see my response there:

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/fsm/changes

Revision 446 removed muggle mode from the D18 version because there wasn’t enough memory to support muggle mode and other new features.

Revision 457, which is new in the last week after some optimization was done to the code, will add muggle mode back in.

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Just a question… When I’m in temp config mode and setting current temp, so clicking during the first buzz, and then not clicking during the second buzz, the max temp will be set to 30degC, or stay unchanged? And if I click only during the second buzz, will the current temp stay unchanged?

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If you do nothing, everything stays the same.

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Hi, I’ll explain the thermal configuration well; I tell you right away that there is a shortcut to get to this configuration: 1) make 10 clicks from off 2) after the first flash set the current temperature: example: if the room temperature is 25 degrees ° do 25 clicks; wait for the second flash and after this second flash set the maximum temperature limit that the torch should reach before starting to lower the level; the temperature is set by default to 30 ° and therefore you have to click + 30: example: if you want to set the limit to 45 ° you have to make 15 clicks: 15 + 30 = 45; if you want to set 50 you have to do 20 clicks, 20 + 30 = 50; if you want to set the minimum you only make 1 click: 30 +1 = 31 etc. I hope I have clarified; of course you can get to this configuration also with the method you see on the diagram: click 4 from Temp Check Hello and good lighting !!

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Not every flashlight with Anduril has the 10 click shortcut.

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Oops …! I apologize for the inaccuracy; I believed this because all my Emisar torches with UI Anduril have the shortcut; hello and good Sunday, Ricc. Thumbs Up

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Hi all friends! Hank told me that the current version of the d18, version 11-20, does not have a muggle mode; unlike the others, it can be reset to factory settings; it also has automatic memory and manual memory and a protection if you keep the power button pressed for a long time: if you hold it down too long, the light will automatically go down to the minimum level after a while; I can’t tell if it has other new methods too. Facepalm

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10 click thermal config is enabled for:

- D18
- E01
- MF01S
- D4v2
- FW3A

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Hi, also D4S – D4SV2 – D1 with Anduril UI, have the shortcut with 10 clicks from off to make thermal regulation; I know for sure why I have these torches.

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I forgot D4Sv2, but D1 and D4S do not use 10 click thermal config in Anduril.

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I forgot D4Sv2, but D1 and D4S do not use 10 click thermal config in Anduril.

I have the d4s right here in my hands, and I assure you that by making 10 clicks from off I get to the thermal configuration mode; as for the D1, I have the model with Anduril UI bought from Hang and not the model with the old IOS V2 UI interface; well, I can guarantee you that the D1 with Anduril UI has the thermal configuration with 10 clicks from off; summarizing: D4S and D1 with Anduril Ui, they have the thermal configuration with 10 clicks from off. I guarantee it at 100%. At least it may be that you are talking about an old version of D4S … everything is possible; mine has 10 clicks from off; Hello and good day from Rome … here it is cold and it always rains. Riccardo. Beer

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Do you see any

#define USE_TENCLICK_THERMAL_CONFIG

here?

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/fsm/view/hea...

You might have an older version of Anduril on your D4S. I haven’t found any hint that it was included previously. Maybe it’s a build for a different flashlight.

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SammysHP wrote:
Do you see any
#define USE_TENCLICK_THERMAL_CONFIG

here?

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~toykeeper/flashlight-firmware/fsm/view/hea...

You might have an older version of Anduril on your D4S. I haven’t found any hint that it was included previously. Maybe it’s a build for a different flashlight.


Hi; I believe what I have in my hands; in my hands there is a d4s and a D1 with UI Anduril that have 10 clicks from off to go to thermal configuration; to conclude, it would be better to ask someone who knows more than the two of us; I always ask my friend Hank when I have doubts; you could do like me too; good day my friend.

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And I trust the code. In this case better ask ToyKeeper as she wrote this fantastic firmware.

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And I trust the code. In this case better ask ToyKeeper as she wrote this fantastic firmware.

You can also ask those who own a D4s or a D1 with Ui Anduril; my Italian friends have both torches bought from Hank and both torches have 10 clicks from off for thermal configuration; Hi friend, here in Italy it is 9 pm at night, my wife has prepared a nice steak and I go to dinner; See you tomorrow!

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I don’t doubt yours (and maybe others) have 10 click thermal config, but it’s not included in the official Anduril code and my flashlight (that I flashed myself) don’t have it as well.

Are you sure that you have Anduril and not RampingIOS (the default firmware for these lights), which is very similar?

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I don’t doubt yours (and maybe others) have 10 click thermal config, but it’s not included in the official Anduril code and my flashlight (that I flashed myself) don’t have it as well.

Are you sure that you have Anduril and not RampingIOS (the default firmware for these lights), which is very similar?


I have to do a bit of clarity: some modes of these torches (Anduril), are not written either in the manuals or illustrated on the various diagrams, but are present: if you buy the D1 with Anduril from Hank or now also from Mountain Electronics, will surely have 10 clicks from off; if you buy the D4s that I have (old model). now available only from Mountain Electronics, it will have 10 clicks from off; you can ask ToyKeeper for confirmation of this, who is a true genius; and now, my friend, let’s talk about something else: what do you think of the D4v2 in brass? I ordered it 2 days ago from Hank; I’d like to hear from you.

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Riccardo wrote:
I have to do a bit of clarity: some modes of these torches (Anduril), are not written either in the manuals or illustrated on the various diagrams, but are present

I’m not looking at the manuals, I’m looking at the code.

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what do you think of the D4v2 in brass? I ordered it 2 days ago from Hank; I’d like to hear from you.

This is the wrong thread for that.
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Riccardo wrote:
D18 arrived; I know the Anduril interface very well and I could see that my Emisar d18 doesn’t have muggle mode; Hank told me by e-mail that this is a new firmware that does not have muggle mode…

Interesting. There was a time when I had muggle mode turned off for a few build targets, because there wasn’t enough space left in the ROM. But I don’t think I sent any of those to Hank. The current versions have muggle mode again, because I was able to reduce the size enough for it to fit again… and I sent those to Hank a few days ago.

Looking at my logs, I sent Hank D18 firmware from 07-18 and 11-24. Muggle mode was cut out from 09-24 to 11-23. I’m guessing he may have grabbed updates from my site without mentioning it. Keeping things up to date is great, but not all of those builds were tested as much as I’d like for widespread use.

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Hank told me that the current version of the d18, version 11-20, …

Also interesting. I put the 11-19 and 11-20 builds up hoping to get help with testing… but they were not intended for production use. These builds included some major changes to the kernel code, so I consider it high-risk. The testing has all gone well so far, but because the changes were large and deep, I was not planning to use any of those changes in production until they had been proven stable for a few weeks.

The good news is that everything so far suggests the kernel changes work correctly and did not break anything. But I think I may need to find a way to mark builds as “dev” or “stable” to avoid any dev builds going to production.

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Not every flashlight with Anduril has the 10 click shortcut.

This is true. However, we don’t necessarily know that the drivers and firmware shipped with each light are the ones which were created for that specific light. For example, the D4S was shipped with Anduril for a while instead of RampingIOS V3, and I think it may have used the D4S V2 driver and firmware. Additionally, if the D1 has the tenclick thermal config, I wonder if it might be using a D4 V2 driver instead of the original D1 driver.

That’s a big part of why I originally wanted the version check mode to be … very detailed. I was hoping it could individually identify every build of the firmware, not just the date when it was built. This would allow one to check whether a D1 shipped with a D4 V2 firmware, for example. But it’s not easy to encode a long version string with a blinking light… at least, not in a way humans can easily parse.


So… it sounds like some unexpected versions of firmware may have been used, sometimes even on models they were not intended for. It should generally still work, but some of the details might be a little weird. Like, the ramp shape might be a little skewed, or the thermal response might be a little too slow or fast. But this shouldn’t cause any big issues.

As for tenclick thermal config, it would probably be good to have that on all Emisar builds… but it hadn’t really come up. Ever since adding factory reset, there hasn’t been much need for people to access the thermal config mode. Factory reset calibrates the sensor to 21 C.

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Riccardo wrote:
D18 arrived; I know the Anduril interface very well and I could see that my Emisar d18 doesn’t have muggle mode; Hank told me by e-mail that this is a new firmware that does not have muggle mode…

Interesting. There was a time when I had muggle mode turned off for a few build targets, because there wasn’t enough space left in the ROM. But I don’t think I sent any of those to Hank. The current versions have muggle mode again, because I was able to reduce the size enough for it to fit again… and I sent those to Hank a few days ago.

Looking at my logs, I sent Hank D18 firmware from 07-18 and 11-24. Muggle mode was cut out from 09-24 to 11-23. I’m guessing he may have grabbed updates from my site without mentioning it. Keeping things up to date is great, but not all of those builds were tested as much as I’d like for widespread use.

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Hank told me that the current version of the d18, version 11-20, …

Also interesting. I put the 11-19 and 11-20 builds up hoping to get help with testing… but they were not intended for production use. These builds included some major changes to the kernel code, so I consider it high-risk. The testing has all gone well so far, but because the changes were large and deep, I was not planning to
use any of those changes in production until they had been proven stable for a few weeks.
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Hello ToyKeeper; meanwhile it is a real pleasure for me to talk to you; I’m writing from Italy where I’m creating a forum that brings together all the fans of Emisar torches and the brilliant UI Anduril! (CPF Italia Forum); my question concerns the emisar d18; I bought this torch from Hank the first days of November 2019; as you know my emisar d18 has no muggle mode; Hank and I had mutual email exchanges; Hank’s conclusion is this: my d18 has a new firmware that is devoid of muggle mode and this is not a defect, as I thought; unlike the previous models it has the possibility of being reset to factory values, it has automatic memory and manual memory (this I discovered myself) and it has a protection if you keep the power button pressed too long; if you keep it pressed too long, the torch will go down to the minimum level automatically; then I tried the reset and the reset to the factory values ​​worked, canceling some changes I had made. So I calmed down and did not return the torch for a change, because Hank said that the version on sale now does not have the muggle mode: the 11-20 version; he could add me the muggle mode, but I would have lost the other functions: reset to factory values, manual memory and automatic memory and button protection pressed too long; A question for further clarification: is my d18 a normal version without defects?
I, in this model of torch, don’t like muggle mode much; I find the most useful muggle mode in smaller flashlights like emisar d4v2, emisar d4s v2 and now also Emisar D1, which has UI Anduril without, of course, aux LEDs. I also have this D1V2 and the UI Anduril, in this torch, has everything except the aux LEDs; Then all my emisars, I mean all, have the shortcut to do thermal adjustment with 10 clicks from off: even the D4S that has Ramping IOS V3! However, the important thing is that I have an Emisar D18 without any problem; Thank you, thank you so much for making your acquaintance; I am very passionate and sooner or later I will begin to dismantle one of these torches to better understand their genius; Hello and I really hope in a confirmation that my D18 has everything in place. Riccardo from Rome, Italy.

The good news is that everything so far suggests the kernel changes work correctly and did not break anything. But I think I may need to find a way to mark builds as “dev” or “stable” to avoid any dev builds going to production.

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Not every flashlight with Anduril has the 10 click shortcut.

This is true. However, we don’t necessarily know that the drivers and firmware shipped with each light are the ones which were created for that specific light. For example, the D4S was shipped with Anduril for a while instead of RampingIOS V3, and I think it may have used the D4S V2 driver and firmware. Additionally, if the D1 has the tenclick thermal config, I wonder if it might be using a D4 V2 driver instead of the original D1 driver.

That’s a big part of why I originally wanted the version check mode to be … very detailed. I was hoping it could individually identify every build of the firmware, not just the date when it was built. This would allow one to check whether a D1 shipped with a D4 V2 firmware, for example. But it’s not easy to encode a long version string with a blinking light… at least, not in a way humans can easily parse.


So… it sounds like some unexpected versions of firmware may have been used, sometimes even on models they were not intended for. It should generally still work, but some of the details might be a little weird. Like, the ramp shape might be a little skewed, or the thermal response might be a little too slow or fast. But this shouldn’t cause any big issues.

As for tenclick thermal config, it would probably be good to have that on all Emisar builds… but it hadn’t really come up. Ever since adding factory reset, there hasn’t been much need for people to access the thermal config mode. Factory reset calibrates the sensor to 21 C.

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Riccardo wrote:
I really hope in a confirmation that my D18 has everything in place.

If I understand correctly, it’s fine. It just has a different version of the firmware than expected. That firmware has no muggle mode, but it sounds like you don’t care about that mode… so things turned out okay.

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Smile 1455/5000 Hello ToyKeeper. I wanted to clarify this: I said, of course, that muggle mode does not interest me, but I must specify this: Hank told me that the version without the muggle mode, unlike the others, has manual memory, automatic memory, protection if press and hold the power button and reset to factory mode for too long. Well, all these last functions I consider more useful than the muggle mode. But I always have a big doubt: maybe my D18 is an experimental version? Is it true that the versions with muggle mode do not have the others I specified before, manual memory, etc.? I have not yet verified this with my friends who have the D18 with muggle mode, because I have not yet explained to them how to do the reset and the other functions, manual memory, button protection etc. So I hope you can clear up this doubt for me, because if the versions with the muggle mode have the others, then I’m very unhappy !! My friends also bought the D18 in early November 2019. Hank told me that I could return my D18, but in return, however, I would have received a D18 with muggle mode, but without memory and all the other additional features. I would be very happy if I made some clarity on this point. In the meantime I will also verify this, after having done tests with the d18s of my Italian friends. We, ToyKeeper, greatly admire your genius! A good day, Riccardo.

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Innocent 1337/9000 Hello Riccardo. Let me add some clarity on that point. The versions your friends got with muggle mode are old, and might not have the other additional features. Yours has more functions.

You should be able to verify the version installed by using the version check function. To do this, make sure the light is off, then click 15 or more times. If it is new enough to have the version check function, it should then blink out a number to show the date the firmware was made. On yours, it should be 2 0 1 9 1 1 2 0.

The version check function was added on 2019-09-24. If a light does not have a version check function, that means the firmware is older than that date. There are many possible versions though, and without the version check function the easiest way to tell which one is used is to check for features being there or not.

Here is a list of user-visible changes which are relevant to the D18:

  • 2019-11-24: re-added muggle mode
  • 2019-11-20: lots of deep code changes to improve reliability (not user visible, but worth mentioning)
  • 2019-09-28: stuck button protection now locks the light
  • 2019-09-24: stuck button protection added
  • 2019-09-24: removed muggle mode (not enough space for it)
  • 2019-09-24: version check added
  • 2019-07-30: made muggle mode safer
  • 2019-06-27: factory reset function
  • 2019-06-02: manual memory
  • 2019-06-02: slightly faster button clicks
  • 2019-05-22: strobe modes auto-reverse on second hold
  • 2019-05-22: lockout mode does 2 brightness levels
  • 2019-05-22: momentary mode can do strobes too
  • 2019-05-22: new thermal regulation algorithm
  • 2019-05-18: adjusted candle mode pattern
  • 2019-05-15: slightly brighter lightning mode
  • 2019-03-29: fixed a small bug in the stepped ramp
  • 2019-03-26: first Emisar D18 version

Figuring out which version is installed can be difficult, which is why the version check function was added… and also why muggle mode was gone for a while. The control chip has very limited space, so not everything can fit at the same time.

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Innocent Hello ToyKeeper, thank you very much for your clarification. I have carried out your orders! Well, my little Beast D18, has version control … but it emits blinking and babbling that I don’t understand very well …. I’m still happy to have discovered this new thing in my d18. On 11/24/2019 you have added a new muggle mode. I imagine that this version also has the others, memory, reset, etc. No problem, for me! These torches are under continuous study and updating, but I think that the previous versions were not useless purchases. Your torches are like a woman who becomes more beautiful every day !! I and my Italian club will buy Emisar always and only from Hank, because only you and Hank offer all the guarantees, the availability and the competence that you do not find from other stores that sell these torches. I had a very bad experience when I bought my first emisar from another store. I don’t say the name out of respect. Now a dream: think how nice, a torch that has colored aux LEDs that can increase the intensity of the light as the main LEDs … a room all lit up with red … green … yellow! I would buy this torch even if it cost a million dollars. Joke, I apologize. All your torches have a price, quality and ingenuity you can’t find in any other torch. Now, for me, the brass Emisar D4 is coming: led neutral wite XPL HI V3 3A. Now my Italian friends will buy it too! Thanks again ToyKeeper, but you are the only one who can clarify our doubts and give explanations. Greetings from Rome (Italy) Riccardo.

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Innocent 1337/9000 Hello Riccardo. Let me add some clarity on that point. The versions your friends got with muggle mode are old, and might not have the other additional features. Yours has more functions.

You should be able to verify the version installed by using the version check function. To do this, make sure the light is off, then click 15 or more times. If it is new enough to have the version check function, it should then blink out a number to show the date the firmware was made. On yours, it should be 2 0 1 9 1 1 2 0.

The version check function was added on 2019-09-24. If a light does not have a version check function, that means the firmware is older than that date. There are many possible versions though, and without the version check function the easiest way to tell which one is used is to check for features being there or not.

Here is a list of user-visible changes which are relevant to the D18:

  • 2019-11-24: re-added muggle mode
  • 2019-11-20: lots of deep code changes to improve reliability (not user visible, but worth mentioning)
  • 2019-09-28: stuck button protection now locks the light
  • 2019-09-24: stuck button protection added
  • 2019-09-24: removed muggle mode (not enough space for it)
  • 2019-09-24: version check added
  • 2019-07-30: made muggle mode safer
  • 2019-06-27: factory reset function
  • 2019-06-02: manual memory
  • 2019-06-02: slightly faster button clicks
  • 2019-05-22: strobe modes auto-reverse on second hold
  • 2019-05-22: lockout mode does 2 brightness levels
  • 2019-05-22: momentary mode can do strobes too
  • 2019-05-22: new thermal regulation algorithm
  • 2019-05-18: adjusted candle mode pattern
  • 2019-05-15: slightly brighter lightning mode
  • 2019-03-29: fixed a small bug in the stepped ramp
  • 2019-03-26: first Emisar D18 version

Figuring out which version is installed can be difficult, which is why the version check function was added… and also why muggle mode was gone for a while. The control chip has very limited space, so not everything can fit at the same time.

Got my D18 when it was first released (got it sometimes early May 2019), so it likely has the 2019-03-29 firmware or even the 2019-03-26…
Looks like there have been lots of useful changes.

I wonder how difficult would it be to update the firmware (I got both the USBASP programmer + SOIC clip, and also Emisar’s programming device for the D4v2). I’ve been able to successfully flash the BLF / Sofirn Q8 / BLF LT1 and the Emisar D4v2, which requires no soldering or removing of glue.

What might be needed to update the D18 firmware? Is soldering required? Removing of glue?

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hello to all the friends of the forum. I would be grateful if someone could give me a clarification. I ordered the Emisar D4 v2 brass from Hank. I also bought the flood optic. The question: on Emisar D4 v2 in brass, is the optic Innocent glued? If so, I think it is not very easy to change optics. Thank you and greetings from Rome, Riccardo.

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Got my D18 when it was first released … I wonder how difficult would it be to update the firmware

Details for that are in my D18 review, including pictures. It doesn’t have flashing pads, so the process is unfortunately pretty involved since it requires taking the driver halfway out.

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