✌ FREEME - MEOTE FM1 LH351D (CRI90+) / XP-L HI (4980lm) / SST20 Anduril 18650 EDC Flashlight - ALIVE!

just got the light too and already disappointed. its kinda dim, but that dark spot in the center is a eyesore.

Since I got 1 of each LED type to check them out, I've done some beamshots.

Only the LH351D 5000k would be "acceptably good" enough.
The SST20-4000k and XPL-Hi 6500k have poor beams and the XPL-Hi is notably dim, where 4x XPL-Hi should have been a bright flashlight (eg. compare with Emisar D4 or even the FW3A 3x XPL-Hi).

Beamshots are taken with the same camera settings (using an entry-level digicam, so may not be that great)

White balance: "daylight" ; ISO: 800 : shutter speed: 1/10th second ; aperture: f/2.8

distance of flashlight to "wall" ahead is approximately 18 meters or 60 feet

Meote FM1 (4x XPL-Hi cool-white)

Lumintop FW3A (3x XPL-Hi cool-white)

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Meote FM1 (4x LH351D)

FW3A (3x XPL-Hi 5000k)

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Meote FM1 (4x SST20-4000k)

FW3A (3x SST20-4000k)

The still photos may not show the "beam artifacts" that well, but these short beamshot videos definitely show those beam artifacts:

Left side for each beamshot video is the Meote FM1, while right side is the FW3A.

Meote FM1 (4x XPL-Hi cool-white) vs Lumintop FW3A (3x XPL-Hi cool-white)

(observation: Meote FM1 XPL-Hi has some dark spots in the beam pattern, one near the center, and some around)

(in terms of brightness, it looks not so bright, so I would doubt the claimed brightness lumens for the FM1 XPL-Hi)

Meote FM1 (4x LH351D, neutral-white) vs Lumintop FW3A (3x XPL-Hi neutral-white)

(observation: in general, the Meote FM1 LH351D has acceptably good beam pattern, somewhat floody)

(unfortuately I can't verify if the claimed brightness/lumens is anywhere near -- I think it's not, but might still be acceptable)


Meote FM1 (4x SST20-4000k) vs Lumintop FW3A (3x SST20-4000k)

(observation: beam artifacts definitely show for the FM1 SST20, with one dark spot near the center and some in other patrs of the beam)

(in terms of brightness, it's also not as bright compared to the FW3A 3x SST20)

yes u would think a 5000k tint LH351D emitter quad setup should be brighter then my fw3a 3000k XPL but its not… its so much dimmer to the eyes…. even the so called rated output for xpl 4980 is very optimistic… even in your pics the sst20 and xpl hi on fw3a looks alot brighter… it should be atleast close to the lumens the lumintop fw3a does but clearly it does not u see that on the pics its not eveen close in any tint…. :person_facepalming:

i hope we all with issues get a refund quickly.

Just got my light, and it flickers at all brightnesses :frowning: Really disappointed considering how long I waited. I think I’ll ask for a refund from Banggood. Light output at Turbo also seems pretty pitiful. I don’t have a light meter to test, but my Sofirn SP32 is at least twice as bright.

I feel the same. My Sofirn SP32 is easily appearing way brighter than the Meote FM1. No comparison. I submitted an after-sales request to Banggood.

I just sent a message to BG inquiring about my FM1.
More than a month has passed and no news. And yes, I know that some people are waiting for more than that time, but I ran out of patience… :neutral_face:

I’ll be looking for their reply about it…

You waited one month??? I wouldn’t wait more than a week!

edit: Oh I just realized you’re talking about receiving the light. I just received my light, and it was shipped out April 30th.

Inquiring? Have you ordered the light?

Sorry for my answer freeme, but that is dumb question and it makes me look dumb too!!!

I ordered it on the 14th April, they shipped it, it was returned due to customs issues in the US (I presume), they shipped it again and since the 17th May it hasn’t moved!

History in this very own thread:

I guess this is enought to prove that the flashlight has been ordered…

I wouldn’t say that a Sofirn SP32 is brighter than the Meote FM1, but it may be that the SP32 “appears brighter”, this is because the SP32 has a central focused hotspot (which is brighter), compared to the Meote FM1 which is a much more floody light.

In all the pictures above (Meote FM1 vs FW3A), notice that the corners of the pictures are still lighted up (visible) with the Meote FM1, but are very dim with the FW3A.

However, even then, total brightness of FM1 seems quite a bit lower than the FW3A (I don’t have a light-integrating-measuring device), but I do have a Lux Meter and did some simple ceiling bounce test/measurements. It’s not “fair” to compare a floody light with a more throwy light when doing simple ceiling bounce (throwy light will read higher). But even then, in my simple ceiling bounce tests, the FM1 (XPL-Hi) is reading quite lower than what I expect.

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when I have time, I’ll try to do a probably more “fair” comparison — Wuben TO50R-HC (4x LH351D, “2800” lumens manufacturer rating) with the Meote FM1 (4x LH351D, ??? lumens). Wuben TO50R-HC is a very floody light, so it may be interesting to compare its beamshot with the Meote FM1 LH351D…

Stilllll waiting on mine, with no excitement…just dreading dealing with banggood for a refund if it’s a dud…

Shipped Apr 29
Showed up in NY June 13

Guess it’s at customs?

got reply from CS,lets see what they will decide… i also said on blf thread other users are reporting same problem as i have so its clearly the light have issues….

+*Dear mortuus

Thank you for contacting us for the order 83896690.

Regarding your concern, I understand this might cause you unconvinced, let me escalate it to the internal department to see any other solutions for you after they check relevant information.

Please expect the contact via email in 8 hours. Thank you very much for your kind understanding.

Best regards*
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Yesterday I sent a message to Banggood CS as stated here .

To continue the saga and to prove that I really bought the light, about 4/5 hours later I received the following message.

I didn’t reply them yet, as I’m seeing with gchart what can be a good option: to wait some more time (51 more days, eventually :exclamation: ), or to ask for refund on this light, and get him a GAW prize elsewhere!

@ MascaratumB

what shipping method did u chose ? My order from late april took a litle over 1 month with priority direct-mail to arrive.

Are you sure they don’t look greener than the Sofirn SP36? The LH351D in the Meote is very positive DUV whereas the LH351D has an almost neutral DUV. Unless Sofirn got a new batch of this emitter that has higher DUV, the difference should be obvious.

I guess that the first attempt (april) was with USA Priority Mail and the second attempt (17th May), after Banggood informing that it was returned due to customs issues and following their recommendation, it was Air Mail Register.

Mysteriously my flicker problems went away… not really sure why. All I did was wipe the threads with my finger a bit more. Still worried the problem will return though.

Oh, yes yes. How could i have forgotten? Do forward your order number if you want me to check for you.

Thanks freeme.
I already took care of it with Banggood CS.

They replied, and I replied back that I will wait some more time… eventually 51 days more!

I talked to gchart, that will be the receiver of the light, and he said he was ok with waiting! So I replied back to BG CS, and…we will wait to see how long will it take for the flashlight to move and to arrive.

:+1:

hm 3 days has passed now and no reply from cs to my support mail…. they said they come back within 8 hours :frowning:

come on……