Since I got 1 of each LED type to check them out, I've done some beamshots.
Only the LH351D 5000k would be "acceptably good" enough.
The SST20-4000k and XPL-Hi 6500k have poor beams and the XPL-Hi is notably dim, where 4x XPL-Hi should have been a bright flashlight (eg. compare with Emisar D4 or even the FW3A 3x XPL-Hi).
Beamshots are taken with the same camera settings (using an entry-level digicam, so may not be that great)
White balance: "daylight" ; ISO: 800 : shutter speed: 1/10th second ; aperture: f/2.8
distance of flashlight to "wall" ahead is approximately 18 meters or 60 feet
Meote FM1 (4x XPL-Hi cool-white)
Lumintop FW3A (3x XPL-Hi cool-white)
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Meote FM1 (4x LH351D)
FW3A (3x XPL-Hi 5000k)
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Meote FM1 (4x SST20-4000k)
FW3A (3x SST20-4000k)
The still photos may not show the "beam artifacts" that well, but these short beamshot videos definitely show those beam artifacts:
Left side for each beamshot video is the Meote FM1, while right side is the FW3A.
yes u would think a 5000k tint LH351D emitter quad setup should be brighter then my fw3a 3000k XPL but its not… its so much dimmer to the eyes…. even the so called rated output for xpl 4980 is very optimistic… even in your pics the sst20 and xpl hi on fw3a looks alot brighter… it should be atleast close to the lumens the lumintop fw3a does but clearly it does not u see that on the pics its not eveen close in any tint….
Just got my light, and it flickers at all brightnesses Really disappointed considering how long I waited. I think I’ll ask for a refund from Banggood. Light output at Turbo also seems pretty pitiful. I don’t have a light meter to test, but my Sofirn SP32 is at least twice as bright.
I just sent a message to BG inquiring about my FM1.
More than a month has passed and no news. And yes, I know that some people are waiting for more than that time, but I ran out of patience…
Sorry for my answer freeme, but that is dumb question and it makes me look dumb too!!!
I ordered it on the 14th April, they shipped it, it was returned due to customs issues in the US (I presume), they shipped it again and since the 17th May it hasn’t moved!
History in this very own thread:
I guess this is enought to prove that the flashlight has been ordered…
I wouldn’t say that a Sofirn SP32 is brighter than the Meote FM1, but it may be that the SP32 “appears brighter”, this is because the SP32 has a central focused hotspot (which is brighter), compared to the Meote FM1 which is a much more floody light.
In all the pictures above (Meote FM1 vs FW3A), notice that the corners of the pictures are still lighted up (visible) with the Meote FM1, but are very dim with the FW3A.
However, even then, total brightness of FM1 seems quite a bit lower than the FW3A (I don’t have a light-integrating-measuring device), but I do have a Lux Meter and did some simple ceiling bounce test/measurements. It’s not “fair” to compare a floody light with a more throwy light when doing simple ceiling bounce (throwy light will read higher). But even then, in my simple ceiling bounce tests, the FM1 (XPL-Hi) is reading quite lower than what I expect.
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when I have time, I’ll try to do a probably more “fair” comparison — Wuben TO50R-HC (4x LH351D, “2800” lumens manufacturer rating) with the Meote FM1 (4x LH351D, ??? lumens). Wuben TO50R-HC is a very floody light, so it may be interesting to compare its beamshot with the Meote FM1 LH351D…
got reply from CS,lets see what they will decide… i also said on blf thread other users are reporting same problem as i have so its clearly the light have issues….
+*Dear mortuus
Thank you for contacting us for the order 83896690.
Regarding your concern, I understand this might cause you unconvinced, let me escalate it to the internal department to see any other solutions for you after they check relevant information.
Please expect the contact via email in 8 hours. Thank you very much for your kind understanding.
Yesterday I sent a message to Banggood CS as stated here .
To continue the saga and to prove that I really bought the light, about 4/5 hours later I received the following message.
I didn’t reply them yet, as I’m seeing with gchart what can be a good option: to wait some more time (51 more days, eventually :exclamation: ), or to ask for refund on this light, and get him a GAW prize elsewhere!
Are you sure they don’t look greener than the Sofirn SP36? The LH351D in the Meote is very positive DUV whereas the LH351D has an almost neutral DUV. Unless Sofirn got a new batch of this emitter that has higher DUV, the difference should be obvious.
I guess that the first attempt (april) was with USA Priority Mail and the second attempt (17th May), after Banggood informing that it was returned due to customs issues and following their recommendation, it was Air Mail Register.
Mysteriously my flicker problems went away… not really sure why. All I did was wipe the threads with my finger a bit more. Still worried the problem will return though.
Thanks freeme.
I already took care of it with Banggood CS.
They replied, and I replied back that I will wait some more time… eventually 51 days more!
I talked to gchart, that will be the receiver of the light, and he said he was ok with waiting! So I replied back to BG CS, and…we will wait to see how long will it take for the flashlight to move and to arrive.