The GT, TALK ABOUT PAYMENTS, a BLF special giga thrower

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The GT, TALK ABOUT PAYMENTS, a BLF special giga thrower

A new project

Aim:
BIG thrower that surpasses the latest super throwers like the TN42
BLF GT — So big, it’s almost NSFW!

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1168643#comment-1168643
So to be clear:

Soon people on the list will get a PM for the down payment of $14, done via PayPal directly to Neal
When making the payment add a note with the following information:
BLF name
Address (including province/state and phone number)
Spot on the list

We will keep a list who made the payment.

And the first run prototypes have arrived:
DEL: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1161284#comment-1161284
MRsDNF: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55643
Texas Ace: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1161733#comment-1161733

please, technical remarks and questions in the GT topic so it is all in the same place and won’t be missed easy

~150m

Texas_Ace wrote:
Copy / pasted from another thread:
Tom E wrote:

Looks Awesome! Can you take full outer measurements and post in OP? I can’t find them in the GT thread OP either – no outer head diameter #.


Thanks!!

134mm head OD
85mm fin OD at button
56mm battery tube
62mm battery cap OD
~315mm total length with long battery tube (ruler only goes to 305mm, guessing on the last 10)

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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1155307#comment-1155307
from proto with lots of things to be corrected, on low modes and with XHP35HD instead of HI, but still they are the first wall beamshots

And we have a first view on the reflector!
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1151039#comment-1151039



Decided are TUBE: 2 * 4 18650 / LED XHP35hi (bin etc to be discussed)

Team:
Tom E: Narsil development
Texas Ace: PCB design
MRsDNF: Communication
Thijsco: CAD analist production / design
Fritz15: CAD analist production / design
M4DM4X: sales
Neal: contact in China well connected in flashlight world.

………….. specs ……………….. notes

Name not clear yet
………….. Marking/logo “???” for the groupbuy, manufacturer can choose own marking/logo afterwards
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Pricing
………….. not clear .. including shipping …. manufacturer can decide own pricing afterwards
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Emitter(s)
………….. to be discussed
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………….. LED(s) mounted on DTP star(s)
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Internals

………….. 20 AWG Wires …………
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………….. Driver retainer ring
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………….. Threads square or trapezoidal (not triangular) for battery tube
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………….. Anodised threads for lock out
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………….. Threads square or trapezoidal (not triangular) for tail cap
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………….. Threads bezel can be anything manufacturer chooses
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………….. Electronic side switch for Narsil operation
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………….. Momentary on tail clicky button (negotiable)
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………….. Mounting for tripod
………………….. mounting nut hole not drilled though the whole body to ensure waterproofing
………….. long fat tube (roughly same size as two stacked SRK tubes)
tube for 2 × 4 18650 cells, two cells long, yes decided, no 26650/32650
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………….. Cell placement in carriers, 2 ot them, designed to have a functional light even when there are cells in only 1.
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Optics
………….. Aluminium? reflector ……. 120mm
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………….. Plastic lens ? ……………. 2.25 mm thick
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Protective
………….. O-ring bezel ………. quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. O-ring battery tube … quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. O-ring tail cap ……. quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. Aliminum alloy …….. 6061-T6
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………….. HA3 anodisation
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………….. Waterproof side switch
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………….. Waterproof tail button (if used)
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………….. Light comes with spare o-rings in all the sizes used
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Software
………….. Tom E Narsil firmware
………….. Several modes and blink modes
………….. User configurable
………….. Fixed modes and ramping
………….. Voltage check
………….. Low voltage cut off
………….. lock out
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Driver design
………….. Tom E Electronic switch driver for Narsil firmware
………….. Very low parasitic drain
………….. Able to run 4 and/or 8 button top 18650 cell(s)
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Quality
……………. Samples 100% as agreed and specified before continuation to actual sale.
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……………. Final production lights 100% as agreed, specified and samples
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……………. Video of drop test shipment packaging made available before lights available for sale.
…………………. This video shows at least 10 drops of the light in packaging from at least 1 meter high
…………………. falling in different angles, the 8 corners, bottom and side hitting the ground first

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…………….All lights tested before shipping to spot and fix problems and avoid DOA.

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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1146929#comment-1146929

Quote:

the first proto is anodised
more parts ready (no word about reflector)
the GT is HUGE
feast your eyes (had to anonymize the girl Smile )


Check http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124848#comment-1124848
DEL shows the now ordered boards for prototyping the driver, YAY!

Important update;

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1159260#comment-1159260
shipping confirmed:
when ordering you need to say DHL or alternative shipping.
Those in countries where DHL shipping causes lots of taxes ask alternative, and the GT will be send in two parcels.

Costs for the first 555 is $111,-

Second followup groupbuy is agreed upon.
We will PM everybody in the 555 groupbuy list when the GO is given and all is supposed to order for after 5 days people on a spot after 555 get the chance if there are GTs not ordered. Again after 5 days we will do this.
3 times 5 days to order the 555 for the low first groupbuy price, if for any reason somebody has not ordered it has to be bought via the second groupbuy.
Then all the others will get a PM and the second groupbuy starts.
This time the cost will be $150 and same shipping as described above.

The official list price after the groupbuys will be $249,95 and of course coupons and site deals probably can be found so the true retail price will be $200-$249,95 and shipping costs that the vendors choose.

Lumintop offers their 3400mAh cells to be shipped with the GT for $7,- a piece.
When ordering note your total when making the payment.
So an European order could look like this for the first groupbuy:
Payment to LT $167 with note:
“BLF The Miller, alternative shipping, 8 cells, 111+56=167”

Or US:
Payment to LT $139 with note:
“BLF Texas Ace, DHL shipping, 4 cells, 111+28=139”

Or another EU
Payment to LT $111 with note
“BLF Fritz15, alternative shipping”

For the second groupbuy the notes work the same but starting with $150 price to be paid.

OK good news
LUMINTOP is going to build and sell the BLF GT

We agreed on a price of $111

There will be a limit on how much groupbuy GTs are going to be sold of 555.
This means I am going to change the list.
We will have 1 primary list with a max of 555 entries.
We will have a number of backup lists corresponding with the number of GT flashlights is asked for the most by a BLFer.

This is a bit complicated but allows the most people to get one at the groupbuy price.
Lumintop is planning to keep on making it so if the 555 are sold it will be possible to buy more.
Price for this is not clear.

For example
I am on the list 2 times
I will place my first entry on the primary list and my second entry on the first back up list
(Or course I put myself at the latest place)
If somebody asks for 10 GT flashlights (not happened but for example)
First entry on primary list
Second GT on first backup list
Third on second list
All the way up to the then created 9th backup list.
This goes in order of asking.

When time comes there will be only one order for a GT possible for the primary list.
People have a certain amount of time to place the order.
Then if we have not reached 555 units the first backup list is getting a PM for a new round of orders.
Then if we have not reached 555 units the second backup list
And so on.

Complicated but fair for all.

latest iteration of design:

CORE Interest list showing order of entry
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1 The Miller
2 darkpenguin
3 Mitko
4 Nicolaas
5 giorgoskok
6 keithd
7 mattlward
8 Sonpham
9 Dep668
10 KawiBoy1428
11 RobertB
12 Keepitsharp
13 M78
14 southland
15 Chicken Drumstick
16 djburkes
17 leroycp
18 emarkd
19 pommie
20 Nicolicous
21 staticx57
22 Xandre
23 Khuan
24 casi29061965
25 Mstevens113
26 lionheart_2281
27 Bonham
28 electricjelly
29 nqcken
30 Pegaso
31 JamesB
32 netprince
33 Caleb
34 johny723
35 Gerrh
36 Phoenix_FIN
37 AlexGT
38 JayT
39 slow2go
40 Bribo
41 Gerrit
42 rvr
43 Tom E
44 Tom E
45 aslpg
46 Charga
47 qandeel
48 Wieselflinkpro
49 G0OSE
50 Abqjohnny
51 g_sintornillos
52 wiestom89
53 Stittville Ed
54 Pöbel
55 hunter1
56 Wrathbringer27
57 Eivwer
58 fonfan
59 chooma
60 Flashy Mike
61 lawallac
62 antiparanoico
63 kommessy
64 Jeansy
65 Box
66 ImA4Wheelr
67 thijsco19
68 Wineslurper
69 Wineslurper
70 gungoat
71 troisanh
72 teachtom
73 dodo
74 cmflippen
75 maukka
76 warzi1975
77 rajun50
78 ZozzV6
79 DBSAR
80 zelee
81 mhanlen
82 LSX
83 shimano3000
84 archimedes
85 Pok
86 Liber8
87 akoposilester
88 Kozy
89 chrisc
90 tzmxxhh
91 albertopnp
92 Tarvos
93 BlindingL5s
94 Mr.Scott
95 Koaksijalac
96 gorky
97 Kurt_Norway
98 giorgoskok
99 giorgoskok
100 giorgoskok
101 bibihang
102 hampshire
103 gangstead
104 strayz
105 Kurt_Norway
106 sma
107 Sledgestone
108 samnavy
109 Aardvark Spleen
110 aggillator
111 crx88ia
112 A380
113 Tete
114 malamask
115 netgear68
116 gregor
117 Smittymojo
118 MCT
119 peabody
120 adnj
121 adnj
122 Dwantink
123 Kenjii
124 cloggy
125 WolfA
126 Theodore41
127 CASHESVALLEY
128 MortyDuck
129 Anthon
130 ISO
131 Sciencetists
132 walty
133 viperbart
134 Kurdolf
135 Lfatman
136 240
137 YoFlash
138 stephenk
139 Bruno28
140 derpilgerer
141 puccio1969
142 Lund1660
143 gamezawy
144 Boaz
145 apt323
146 Kodachrome40
147 FlashPilot
148 rfd673
149 MorpheusT1
150 brightlights
151 Dmitriyrus
152 velocraig
153 crz6662
154 Kindle
155 Muto
156 Muto
157 gorb507
158 Aslan
159 Lyubo Yanev
160 Lyubo Yanev
161 RocketTomato
162 Modulor
163 Caleb-v
164 itsme5k
165 JockRobbins
166 RotorHead64
167 J-Dub74
168 prisma
169 theoldbill
170 bjs55
171 aslpg
172 Dutcheee
173 westcoastwonders
174 Sarge930
175 Gerrh
176 Gerrh
177 mrheosuper
178 shogan
179 Koenta
180 caramba
181 tmxod
182 mdeni
183 teacher
184 sb56637
185 NikolaS
186 CheapThrills
187 TheOnlyDocc
188 Abqjohnny
189 HighCaliber
190 e10sno
191 DBSS
192 thesciencenut
193 KawiBoy1428 2nd
194 jmpaul320
195 vol
196 nfetterly
197 niktak11
198 goshdogit
199 darkpenguin
200 abril
201 Vattern
202 treysoucie
203 Martini
204 Sirius9
205 Jesjes
206 papaslightsaber
207 Couchmaster
208 Docp723
209 Docp723 2nd
210 Kentuckywindage
211 kotobuki
212 NuggetMcNugget
213 adirondackdestroyer
214 spkzzz
215 Aardvark Spleen
216 drood
217 bossf350
218 Cliwilnew
219 LEDtec
220 CJW
221 deathless
222 WillyD
223 jack-bkk
224 pooptoast
225 LloydV
226 FBsLights
227 Norddeutscher
228 Norddeutscher 2nd
229 slickpenguin
230 Dralf
231 Dralf 2nd
232 jmoots
233 downlinx
234 Sukoi
235 mizou51
236 sgt253
237 Buzzing Bulb
238 enesrap ?
239 BeardedRaleigh
240 Kulumatic
241 zeroair
242 JaredM
243 battletross
244 plaidshorts
245 Nortson
246 The_Driver
247 Northwoods
248 thslw8jg
249
250 knudsengj
251 alex1234
252 needmorlts
253 MagPap
254 Mindaugass
255 light junkie
256 Angel Martínez
257 DarthTader
258 dhsvcs
259 praveendk
260 shirnask
261 Masejoer
262 Angel Martínez
263 Ragsy
264 666fixed
265 264 LOL at nr on list vs username Wink
266 Mindaugass
267 Ricflair
268 iron potato
269 kntx
270 DasEtwas
271 Dustynell
272 jkbam
273 Shadowfax
274 specialk
275 Icarus
276 Lights-Out
277 Lights-Out 2nd
278 MaleNurse
279 bd52
280 Abe87
281 osb40000
282 Lights-Out
283 Lights-Out 2nd
284 yclongthrow
285 scdaf
286 Jvrthp321
287 Bill_tong
288 juaquin
289 jama
290 slackwolf
291 slackwolf 2nd
292 noob
293 FlashMax
294 Frankie Baby
295 kaybi
296 vestureofblood
297 smokuxx1987
298 Jimmy007
299 jerrod
300 amplificus
301 DarkerInSol
302 DarkerInSol 2nd
303 thommy
304 Majoroverkill
305 Jaza
306 needmorlts
307 rag
308 aremihc
309 Fredylee
310 twodollarbill
311 PrinceValorum
312 steel_1024
313
314 magnet
315 jscan
316 LessDark
317 Roberrt777
318 Minimoke
319 tru3s1lv3r
320 NightLight
321 shrick
322 shrick
323 eric800
324 TNT
325 gloomywarfreak
326 Saigon
327 carmantl
328 san san
329 BanglaBob
330 saabluster
331 Anthon
332 moridin
333 whooda4
334 yasenf
335 R.D.
336 Schkü
337 Van
338 marsalla
339 itsonlyme
340 gravelmonkey
341 teacher 2nd
342 lightlight22
343 Bupyc
344 Mkduffer
345 thegameisrigged
346 vamper
347 BOMBAY
348 leroycp 2nd
349 KW
350 Lopan
351 firedome
352 AirBreaker
353 Eraursls1984
354 jingleberry
355 slackwolf
356 BeardedRaleigh
357 Mecallie
358 cavorite
359 foton
360 JPLight
361 JPLight
362 akoposilester (2nd)
363 borealis
364 jaynick
365 Shur
366 Kourtinoksylo
367 mrstealyourgains
368 Jalben
369 james y
370 Sullysat
371 Joey Adams
372 teachtom
373
374 j0sh
375 FreeMagenta
376 zeremefico
377 deye223
378
379 turboBB
380 nodoubt
381 korpzgrinda
382 famous36
383 nodoubt 2nd
384 Eggun
385 Speed4goal
386 ARsee
387 Zeratull
388
389 blueb8llz
390 blueb8llz
391 whooda4 2nd
392 Umpi2000
393 bkling
394 Jvrthp321
395 zipelgas
396 CASHESVALLEY
397 tatasal
398 trume_3454
399 igeigeige
400 Angel Martínez
401 Ronen98
402 wkhchin81
403 gigbyt
404
405 AdrianWA
406 Flash-O-Maniac
407 fuzun
408 xray291
409 ilovejesuschrist
410 greg
411 octav
412 keengeorge
413 keengeorge
414 Yourrid
415 Yourrid
416 AdrianWA 2nd
417 turpulator
418 BT100
419 viper1138
420 joseabul
421 romanus
422 Rick (formatting due to the forum showing things between – different)
423 slow2go
424 slow2go
425 DOCFAR
426 pepinfaxera
427 Gerrh
428 Gerrh
429 Kafar
430 Miguel_79
431 mk4off
432 KaiserSosa
433 Ilellero
434 Silent_Star
435 southcovekayak
436 Bo4ka
437 Keisari
438 Jensa41
439 piotrek966
440 osb40000
441 osb40000
442 Slayer1
443 nofear87
444 clinicdoc
445 samsung913
446 Pulsar
447 lichtpfadfinder
448 Bruno28
449 cypher1024
450 shooterschmidty
451
452 solRNY
453 Lowtech
454 Sukoi 2nd
455 gehrmo
456 oto
457 I_like_lamb
458 Jerommel
459 Stoneface
460 scotlarock
461 Tom E 3rd
462 bjs55 2nd
463 BobbyMK
464 Buzzy243
465 djozz
466 michael.k
467 BDM
468 BorisBar
469 Slayer1
470 ARMS.AARON
471 CrashOne
472 sp5it
473 ARsee 2nd
474 olivedrab
475 qandeel 2nd
476 nnmnu1
477 MBuitendorp
478 Essexman
479 xCentrino
480 Awdtsi
481 scianiac
482 Mikael
483 abhinit90
484 Dydi92
485 BT100 2nd
486 The_crx
487 Kalihi
488 sac02
489 noetik
490 freeme
491 Ag76
492 ClaudeMBallz
493 IndyArcher
494 techieman33
495 Tjhosan
496 bella-headlight
497 Texas_Ace
498 Texas_Ace 2nd
499 l1mb0
500 Charga
501 Sledgestone
502 optntdr13
503 amplificus
504 ChibiM
505 Morgy
506 Litefighter
507 pscal
508 X0R
509 shan6oob
510 chokobo
511 zachary6227
512 zoysiamo
513 macktastic
514 darthmater
515 mstephens22
516 Joat

517 DJUnreal
518 Kit Latura
519 Walker Klondike
520 MACS0647
521 carmantl 2nd
522 jescereal
523 jescereal
524 Randolph
525 everydaysurvivalgear
526 clange50
527 Innerlight
528 Curetia
529 amaretto
530 tonylim
531 Flanny
532 TechnOMatriX
533 Hundelampe
534 koyotee
535 Guns712
536 unit311
537 Duke
538 Modden
539 Maiden666
540 tomas.hrubovcak
541 wapd2
542 xtrosity
543 WuTang
544 Oal
545 flaschi
546 samis
547 FrankFlash
548 nitrader0
549 Sonofspectrum
550 MountainMan
551 krutone
552 heatwaves
553 adsum
554 Phantom1
555 Mikael
556 WaylonJennings
557 DiscoJoe
558 Ilmatic
559 Lipfit2000
560 JM87
561 patmet
562 DOHC20
563 southland 2nd
564 southland 3rd
565 southland 4th
566 southland 5th
567 asnidi2
568 Suncoaster
569 jimmy23
570 kevinfc
571 Bo4ka
572 Swennie
573 Franz
574 xxx
575 Phantom1
576 R10500
577 StarCity
578 polarweis
579 Nathan42
580 ColdFusion
581 Rxich
582 Crazyeddie
583 SteveMidwest
584 jerrytx
585 Bozlight29
586 vinte77
587 mezzmen7
588 darrenm
589 Henk4U2
590 maildroid
591 joel95ex
592 ant0
593 light junkie
594 light up
595 spotlighter
596 drood
597 Megabassie
598 Manimok
599 pleply
600 pilotdog68
601 D10ten
602 Jeffstanton
603 Natasha
604 johnjohn
605 BrianK
606 martook
607 Wennn
608 xray291
609 JayWallis
610 Nicolicous 2nd
611 bwl123
612 dsiddens
613 wilwok
614 rizky_p
615 dentillozie
616 fed893
617 PabloVerde
618 Terry White
619 Terry White 2nd
620 solRNY 2nd
621 Gj
622 Geese (via PM)
623 Dregs
624 byarnell05
625 Offgridled
626 Edness
627 geepaw
628 Newlumen
629 Nguyen
630 light junkie (via PM)
631 Box
632 flybird
633 leaftye
634 gleamer
635 MAD777
636 chops728
637 eekazum
638 Sky
639 Lone Eagle
640 rizky_p
641 Ozythemandias
642 suratyu
643 wimmer2121
644 jack83
645 pirate joe 22
646 R10500 2nd
647 XXX-Man
648 unknown00101
649 casi29061965 2nd
650 KuanR
651 Yokiamy
652 tmx009
653 pirate joe 22
654 tino79
655 ISO
656 M3L8BQMjr2m
657 Lyubo Yanev 3rd
658 bobdotorg
659 bobdotorg 2nd
660 NotSure
661 Epsilon748
662 w4rkry
663 GroinOfSteel
664 Dadpool
665 bdm82
666 Hezekiah
667 wolfstyle
668 will34
669 digitalMessiah
670 JJMcGee83
671 slackwolf
672 what_are_birds
673 Nine9n1ne
674 AppA
675 T18
676 T18
677 T18
678 T18
679 zortan
680 JorisFRST
681 TheLonelyLumen
682
683 boostedsubie
684 pelle470
685 fuzun
686 chasm22
687 srwaite
688 Mr.Poppy
689 KnifeNutsJake
690 GameOfDeath
691 Tuigali
692 lelantosthrow
693 Evo1986
694 Alux
695 bigrick
696 prepro
697 Tally-ho
698 TorinoFermic
699 vamper
700 cccpull
701 MRsDNF
702 jatle
703 Cawi
704 cypher1024
705 JIGHEADWORM
706 davidkappelt
707 eekazum 2nd
708 eekazum 3rd
709 Svensk
710 drjamesfox
711 WestBam
712 flasky
713 st33lboy
714 terry b
715 warzi1975 2nd
716 Hardware
717 SamHaLeKe
718 Turningbluechips
719 Gladimir_Gluten
720 zifzif
721 mjgsxr
722 arditty
723 b1i1l1l1y1
724 harty73
725

(updated to post 5037 p168)

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important changes to OP
removed The Miller: General communication from team info
Added tube for 2 × 4 18650 cells, two cells long, yes decided, no 26650/32650
Added negotiable at tail clicky button since Narsil has extremely low parasitic drain and good safe lockout.
Changed glass to plastic for lens
lens thickness 2.5mm
added long fat tube (roughly same size as two stacked SRK tubes)
added Cell placement in carriers, 2 ot them, designed to have a functional light even when there are cells in only 1

POLL results:

POLL6 outside design, second round:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52439
Design 1

POLL 5, design overview.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/51246

POLL 4, LED choice
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50880

POLL 2, name
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50362

POLL 1, shape / for format of te light:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50344
PLUNGER

POLL 3, name, with fewer options
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50382
BLF GT (Giga Thrower)

Edited by: The Miller on 08/18/2017 - 02:57
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The "Core" GT list (from post #1).

 

updated to post 4499

 

Ordered lists

These lists are ordered as The Miller described in Post #1.

  • People requesting their 1st BLF GT have precedence over people requesting a 2nd GT.
  • People requesting their 2nd BLF GT have precedence over people requesting a 3rd GT.
  • People requesting their 3rd BLF GT have precedence over people requesting a 4th GT.
  • Rinse and repeat...

The key is that your request(s) stay above 556 in "Total Count" column (far left column). If you have requested two lights and both are above 556, someone requesting a 2nd light will be placed below your 2nd light and not impact you, but someone requesting a 1st light will be placed above your 2nd light, pushing your 2nd light down one position, potentially down to 556.

 

The GT List

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Total  BLF   User  Req
Count  Name  Count  Num 
-----  -----  -----  ----- 
The Miller  1st  #1
Mitko  1st  #3
Nicolaas  1st  #4
giorgoskok  1st  #5
keithd  1st  #6
mattlward  1st  #7
Sonpham  1st  #8
Dep668  1st  #9
KawiBoy1428  1st  #10
10  RobertB  1st  #11
11  Keepitsharp  1st  #12
12  M78  1st  #13
13  southland  1st  #14
14  Chicken Drumstick  1st  #15
15  djburkes  1st  #16
16  leroycp  1st  #17
17  emarkd  1st  #18
18  pommie  1st  #19
19  Nicolicous  1st  #20
20  staticx57  1st  #21
21  Xandre  1st  #22
22  Khuan  1st  #23
23  casi29061965  1st  #24
24  Mstevens113  1st  #25
25  lionheart_2281  1st  #26
26  Bonham  1st  #27
27  electricjelly  1st  #28
28  nqcken  1st  #29
29  Pegaso  1st  #30
30  JamesB  1st  #31
31  netprince  1st  #32
32  Caleb  1st  #33
33  johny723  1st  #34
34  Gerrh  1st  #35
35  Phoenix_FIN  1st  #36
36  AlexGT  1st  #37
37  JayT  1st  #38
38  slow2go  1st  #39
39  Bribo  1st  #40
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reserved for outside design

Traditional flashlight shape decided via poll.

PIC with sizes, just take a ruler and try to get a grasp on the size ot it Smile

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POLL OPTIONS when posted it will be just named “design X: without names.
tonight this will be the choices I enter in the poll, if anybody wants to add certain choices, please let me know.

Fritz

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Thijsco square

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Thijsco rounded

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5ar

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Jerommel

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Mortyduck

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Jerommel designed a light with the emphasis on inner workings and focus of the big reflector:

Older design of Jerommel:

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Start designs
Texas Ace traditional “plunger” light:

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Thijsco19
Super simple design. 130 mm head. 50 mm battery tube (4s2p setup)

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Polled out yet too cool to remove from the progress record:

Djozz surprised with a real out of the box designthat has to be used in anther project Smile

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reserved now used for reflector

MortyDuck wrote:

I did some research about the perfect parabola on my own, and it seem that we are just a little bit of in our measures..
I came in contact whit Bob from a math forum, and we discussed the parabolic equation, and this is the tread:

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=23575



When the diameter is 120mm the depth for a perfect parabolic diagram is 92,63mm (rounded upwards to 93mm for simplicity),
not 112mm taken from an upscaled TN42 design..

Maybe it can give us an edge? Wink



Morten.

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Almost 20mm shorter head Less weight Less material head Less material reflector Sounds more then interesting I think.
MortyDuck wrote:
That was easy: Shenzhen Bo Rui Seiko Technology Co., Ltd
Koenta wrote:
This is the graph for XHP35 HI postimage

Enderman wrote:
Ok guys so I have done some calculations trying to figure out exactly how the dimensions of the reflector would work.
This isn’t a ray trace and it will not show how one reflector might perform better than another (based on size of LED and distance from LED to reflector curface)
But what it can do is show you how tall or wide you might want your reflector, and the distance from the LED to the closest point on the reflector (making this bigger will reduce corona around the hotspot for a more collimated beam)

Here are the equations you can input to desmos calculator (you can copy paste these right in, one box each):
https://www.desmos.com/calculator
y=s\cdot x^2-\frac{.25}{s}
y=-x-\frac{.5}{s}
y=x-\frac{.5}{s}
s=0.03 (for this one you will want to click the number at the end of the slider and set it to 0 <= s <= 0.2 step=0.005)
y=0
-60 < x < 60 (diameter that you want your reflector to be, in this case 120mm) (you can also just do lines like in the image if you want to see better)

Now what you can do is move the S slider back and forth to change the size of the reflector.
You will see that the reflector is sitting slightly below y=0, this is because the LED will be centered at (0,0) and anything below y=0 will not be used at all by the LED, since the LED cannot project light behind it.
Changing S will adjust the shape to be deeper or shallower, and you can see the height of the reflector is from y=0 to the point where the parabola intersects the vertical X lines we put in.

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In the screenshot I took, the reflector is 100mm deep, 120mm diameter, and it has almost 34mm opening at the bottom. Green and blue lines are unnecessary but they show that the 45 degree tangent is always on the line y=0, so no matter how big or small your make your reflector it will always be focused at the LED at 0,0. Getting the height is really easy then, since you start at y=0 and measure upwards.

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Another way you can use this set of equations is by setting y=the height you want your reflector to be, and adjust S to see the diameter (where the parabola intersects the y line) and that will show you the shpae of the reflector, how much of it is being used, etc. Remember the part of the parabola below y=0 will never be used for reflecting light, so it is just dead space.
Hopefully this helps someone design their own reflector or something Smile

lampyris wrote:
Regarding the manufacturer of the lovely IM reflector, could it be Nata?

A bit of detective work led me to this idea:

The smaller xml10 reflector Here is exactly the same as the Cutter xml10r Here The manufacturer is listed as Nata on the Cutter site and the image is the same on both IM and Cutter pages.

Might be worth someone with the language skills that I lack contacting Nata?

Hope this helps

ImA4Wheelr wrote:

CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.


 



Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.



 

ImA4Wheelr wrote:

So it turns out the IM reflector I have mentions is manufactured in China.  I got the following response from IM:


 


“We are willing to do optical ray tracing analysis on other LED options on the 100-1332 reflector.
It is a specular, ultra bright finish, (no facets or flutes).

Attached is a sketch of the dimensions and interface.  Please send to me a drawing of the LED/reflector interface you are looking for. 


After agreement on the modification requested we can then quote to you min order, price and lead time.  Lead time would be 6 weeks and if we can receive the order this week we could deliver before new year. 

Yes, reflectors are manufactured by a medical surgery light optical manufacturer in China.  We have an NDA in place and orders direct to the manufacturer would not be possible as we own and produce the designs.  They use a Swiss M&M machine and can produce parts direct from 3D solid CAD files.  Initial parts would be C02 laser cut, before we acquire a die for the production run. “


 


I told IM that we are early in the Scoping/Designing phase and needed to know what the expected cd/lm would be with an XP-L Hi sized emitter.  I realize we will probably got with XHP-35 Hi, but it will be a reference point.  I feel further communication with IM should be handled by someone that is experienced in this type of stuff.  Maybe the manufacture?.  If The Miller feels someone from BLF should work with IM, I will be happy to hand off to that person and introduce them to IM.


 


lawallac wrote:
Has anyone experience purchasing from Phoenix? http://www.phoenixelectroforms.com/index.html Electoformed reflectors are pretty high end but who knows.

They have some promising looking stuff.  Someone needs to get with them and see what they can offer.

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Nice! Was about time though

And ofc i am interested

XHP35Hi high CRI vs a good W2/3…especialy since it would be a long term project…aint sure about that, especialy with those new coming xpl2 and future xpl2 hi

in a 94mm the picture under so-so reflector a dded V5 deals nearly 650k cds at 5 amps

I have still to dismantle the TN42 to test it out with a nice w2

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Nice idea! But 8 cells?

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It’ll work with 4 Smile

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120mm? geez….

What’s the price target? $100?

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I’m ok with 8 cells, but it better be one hell of a thrower!
You guys planning on cracking the 1Mcd with that 12 cm reflector?

If the price is decent…I’m in!

Cheers
Nico

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Great !

I think too 8 cells are a lot . 4 are ok Wink

Also , count me in too , for any help the team needs .

Edit : Please don’t start an interest list , it will turn into chaos with the expected results

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High CRI!
Count me in.

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Dang dude, you are really pushing the limits here. Two custom and unusual light projects at the same time! Heck yeah, I am in!

Keep this up and make the work… you will generate some real BLF envy.

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Convoy S2+, 6*7135, XM-L2 3D, 10 degree TIR, PilotDog lighted tailcap.
Convoy S2+, H17F, XM-L2 4C, lighted tailcap
Zebralight SC52w-L2
Olight S1A
Olight S1R

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I am in

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Im in this one as well! Big Smile

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The debate is lumen vs throw. It will be a big light so will we be happy with a 1400 lumen XP-L HI and try to hit 1Mcd?, or will we settle for 700kcd with a 2000+ lumen XHP35?, or go 4000 lumen / 300kcd with a XHP70? (numbers are a very fast guess)

My first feeling is that in a light this big I expect more than 2000 lumen, even though that implies that maximum throw for the reflector will not be reached.

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I’m in for a couple high quality hosts IF you can get them made first, before the multitude of requests and idea’s and other BS start’s flowing in, I have the drivers, boards and LED’s already.

It can’t be that hard just copy the TN42 with a bigger reflector and keep the carrier 4S, easy peasy, then just slap BLF on the side? If you have too?

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djozz wrote:
The debate is lumen vs throw. It will be a big light so will we be happy with a 1400 lumen XP-L HI and try to hit 1Mcd?, or will we settle for 700kcd with a 2000+ lumen XHP35?, or go 4000 lumen / 300kcd with a XHP70? (numbers are a very fast guess)

My first feeling is that in a light this big I expect more than 2000 lumen, even though that implies that maximum throw for the reflector will not be reached.

+1

It is usually a compromise between lumens and lux. One direction to go is multiple reflectors/emitters, like a bigger TM16GT. This way one can get lumens and lux as long as the separate reflectors make good use of the available area and are driven well.

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Too much unsure so I will start keeping the interest list later down the path Wink
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I’m in for sure, make sure there is a good copper heat sink in there somewhere.

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Interested.

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I’m interested too…but…where does it end, lol? Instead of starting with a 120mm reflector why not a 160mm? It’s best to start big instead of small due to the fact that newer, bigger, and better will be out before you know it. It’ll take a little longer for a manufacturer to best it if you build it big. The Eagletac M25C2 Turbo that I modded with a fet and dedomed XM-L2 U4 1A has a 92mm reflector and does 636,763cd. My wife calls it the plunger because the head is so much bigger than the body but it throws like crazy. I’d still like to be able to hold the light with one hand though, so 160mm may be out of the question…unless a handle is added…

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CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.

 

Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.

 

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Would prefer 4 cells instead of 8 (in fact not interested at all if 8 cells). Go for max lux over lumens (plenty of flooders or compromise beam lights around).

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.


 



Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.



 

Is it not too deep? It’s just a question…I’m not into the whole measuring the angle of the beam thing…it just looks really deep to me. I guess that would product more of a spot?…than spill?

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