FIRST GLANCE AT FIRST PROTO The GT, a BLF special giga thrower

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FIRST GLANCE AT FIRST PROTO The GT, a BLF special giga thrower

A new project

Aim:
BIG thrower that surpasses the latest super throwers like the TN42

http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1144128#comment-1144128

thijsco19 wrote:


Clickable for full size.

Check http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124848#comment-1124848
DEL shows the now ordered boards for prototyping the driver, YAY!

Important update;

OK good news
LUMINTOP is going to build and sell the BLF GT

We agreed on a price of $111

There will be a limit on how much groupbuy GTs are going to be sold of 555.
This means I am going to change the list.
We will have 1 primary list with a max of 555 entries.
We will have a number of backup lists corresponding with the number of GT flashlights is asked for the most by a BLFer.

This is a bit complicated but allows the most people to get one at the groupbuy price.
Lumintop is planning to keep on making it so if the 555 are sold it will be possible to buy more.
Price for this is not clear.

For example
I am on the list 2 times
I will place my first entry on the primary list and my second entry on the first back up list
(Or course I put myself at the latest place)
If somebody asks for 10 GT flashlights (not happened but for example)
First entry on primary list
Second GT on first backup list
Third on second list
All the way up to the then created 9th backup list.
This goes in order of asking.

When time comes there will be only one order for a GT possible for the primary list.
People have a certain amount of time to place the order.
Then if we have not reached 555 units the first backup list is getting a PM for a new round of orders.
Then if we have not reached 555 units the second backup list
And so on.

Complicated but fair for all.

latest iteration of design:

Decided are TUBE: 2 * 4 18650 / LED XHP35hi (bin etc to be discussed)

Team:
Tom E: Narsil development
Texas Ace: PCB design
MRsDNF: Communication
Thijsco: CAD analist production / design
Fritz15: CAD analist production / design
M4DM4X: sales
Neal: contact in China well connected in flashlight world.

………….. specs ……………….. notes

Name not clear yet
………….. Marking/logo “???” for the groupbuy, manufacturer can choose own marking/logo afterwards
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Pricing
………….. not clear .. including shipping …. manufacturer can decide own pricing afterwards
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Emitter(s)
………….. to be discussed
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………….. LED(s) mounted on DTP star(s)
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Internals

………….. 20 AWG Wires …………
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………….. Driver retainer ring
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………….. Threads square or trapezoidal (not triangular) for battery tube
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………….. Anodised threads for lock out
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………….. Threads square or trapezoidal (not triangular) for tail cap
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………….. Threads bezel can be anything manufacturer chooses
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………….. Electronic side switch for Narsil operation
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………….. Momentary on tail clicky button (negotiable)
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………….. Mounting for tripod
………………….. mounting nut hole not drilled though the whole body to ensure waterproofing
………….. long fat tube (roughly same size as two stacked SRK tubes)
tube for 2 × 4 18650 cells, two cells long, yes decided, no 26650/32650
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………….. Cell placement in carriers, 2 ot them, designed to have a functional light even when there are cells in only 1.
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Optics
………….. Aluminium? reflector ……. 120mm
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………….. Plastic lens ? ……………. 2.25 mm thick
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Protective
………….. O-ring bezel ………. quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. O-ring battery tube … quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. O-ring tail cap ……. quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. Aliminum alloy …….. 6061-T6
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………….. HA3 anodisation
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………….. Waterproof side switch
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………….. Waterproof tail button (if used)
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………….. Light comes with spare o-rings in all the sizes used
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Software
………….. Tom E Narsil firmware
………….. Several modes and blink modes
………….. User configurable
………….. Fixed modes and ramping
………….. Voltage check
………….. Low voltage cut off
………….. lock out
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Driver design
………….. Tom E Electronic switch driver for Narsil firmware
………….. Very low parasitic drain
………….. Able to run 4 and/or 8 button top 18650 cell(s)
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Quality
……………. Samples 100% as agreed and specified before continuation to actual sale.
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……………. Final production lights 100% as agreed, specified and samples
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……………. Video of drop test shipment packaging made available before lights available for sale.
…………………. This video shows at least 10 drops of the light in packaging from at least 1 meter high
…………………. falling in different angles, the 8 corners, bottom and side hitting the ground first

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…………….All lights tested before shipping to spot and fix problems and avoid DOA.

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CORE Interest list showing order of entry
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1 The Miller
2 darkpenguin
3 Mitko
4 Nicolaas
5 giorgoskok
6 keithd
7 mattlward
8 Sonpham
9 Dep668
10 KawiBoy1428
11 RobertB
12 Keepitsharp
13 M78
14 southland
15 Chicken Drumstick
16 djburkes
17 leroycp
18 emarkd
19 pommie
20 Nicolicous
21 staticx57
22 Xandre
23 Khuan
24 casi29061965
25 Mstevens113
26 lionheart_2281
27 Bonham
28 electricjelly
29 nqcken
30 Pegaso
31 JamesB
32 netprince
33 Caleb
34 johny723
35 Gerrh
36 Phoenix_FIN
37 AlexGT
38 JayT
39 slow2go
40 Bribo
41 Gerrit
42 rvr
43 Tom E
44 Tom E
45 aslpg
46 Charga
47 qandeel
48 Wieselflinkpro
49 G0OSE
50 Abqjohnny
51 g_sintornillos
52 wiestom89
53 Stittville Ed
54 Pöbel
55 hunter1
56 Wrathbringer27
57 Eivwer
58 fonfan
59 chooma
60 Flashy Mike
61 lawallac
62 antiparanoico
63 kommessy
64 Jeansy
65 Box
66 ImA4Wheelr
67 thijsco19
68 Wineslurper
69 Wineslurper
70 gungoat
71 troisanh
72 teachtom
73 dodo
74 cmflippen
75 maukka
76 warzi1975
77 rajun50
78 ZozzV6
79 DBSAR
80 zelee
81 mhanlen
82 LSX
83 shimano3000
84 archimedes
85 Pok
86 Liber8
87 akoposilester
88 Kozy
89 chrisc
90 tzmxxhh
91 albertopnp
92 Tarvos
93 BlindingL5s
94 Mr.Scott
95 Koaksijalac
96 gorky
97 Kurt_Norway
98 giorgoskok
99 giorgoskok
100 giorgoskok
101 bibihang
102 hampshire
103 gangstead
104 strayz
105 Kurt_Norway
106 sma
107 Sledgestone
108 samnavy
109 Aardvark Spleen
110 aggillator
111 crx88ia
112 A380
113 Tete
114 malamask
115 netgear68
116 gregor
117 Smittymojo
118 MCT
119 peabody
120 adnj
121 adnj
122 Dwantink
123 Kenjii
124 cloggy
125 WolfA
126 Theodore41
127 CASHESVALLEY
128 MortyDuck
129 Anthon
130 ISO
131 Sciencetists
132 walty
133 viperbart
134 Kurdolf
135 Lfatman
136 240
137 YoFlash
138 stephenk
139 Bruno28
140 derpilgerer
141 puccio1969
142 Lund1660
143 gamezawy
144 Boaz
145 apt323
146 Kodachrome40
147 FlashPilot
148 rfd673
149 MorpheusT1
150 brightlights
151 Dmitriyrus
152 velocraig
153 crz6662
154 Kindle
155 Muto
156 Muto
157 gorb507
158 Aslan
159 Lyubo Yanev
160 Lyubo Yanev
161 RocketTomato
162 Modulor
163 Caleb-v
164 itsme5k
165 JockRobbins
166 RotorHead64
167 J-Dub74
168 prisma
169 theoldbill
170 bjs55
171 aslpg
172 Dutcheee
173 westcoastwonders
174 Sarge930
175 Gerrh
176 Gerrh
177 mrheosuper
178 shogan
179 Koenta
180 caramba
181 tmxod
182 mdeni
183 teacher
184 sb56637
185 NikolaS
186 CheapThrills
187 TheOnlyDocc
188 Abqjohnny
189 HighCaliber
190 e10sno
191 DBSS
192 thesciencenut
193 KawiBoy1428 2nd
194 jmpaul320
195 vol
196 nfetterly
197 niktak11
198 goshdogit
199 darkpenguin
200 abril
201 Vattern
202 treysoucie
203 Martini
204 Sirius9
205 Jesjes
206 papaslightsaber
207 Couchmaster
208 Docp723
209 Docp723 2nd
210 Kentuckywindage
211 kotobuki
212 NuggetMcNugget
213 adirondackdestroyer
214 spkzzz
215 Aardvark Spleen
216 drood
217 bossf350
218 Cliwilnew
219 LEDtec
220 CJW
221 deathless
222 WillyD
223 jack-bkk
224 pooptoast
225 LloydV
226 FBsLights
227 Norddeutscher
228 Norddeutscher 2nd
229 slickpenguin
230 Dralf
231 Dralf 2nd
232 jmoots
233 downlinx
234 Sukoi
235 mizou51
236 sgt253
237 Buzzing Bulb
238 enesrap ?
239 BeardedRaleigh
240 Kulumatic
241 zeroair
242 JaredM
243 battletross
244 plaidshorts
245 Nortson
246 The_Driver
247 Northwoods
248 thslw8jg
249 Rusty Joe
250 knudsengj
251 alex1234
252 needmorlts
253 MagPap
254 Mindaugass
255 light junkie
256 Angel Martínez
257 DarthTader
258 dhsvcs
259 praveendk
260 shirnask
261 Masejoer
262 Angel Martínez
263 Ragsy
264 666fixed
265 264 LOL at nr on list vs username Wink
266 Mindaugass
267 Ricflair
268 iron potato
269 kntx
270 DasEtwas
271 Dustynell
272 jkbam
273 Shadowfax
274 specialk
275 Icarus
276 Lights-Out
277 Lights-Out 2nd
278 MaleNurse
279 bd52
280 Abe87
281 osb40000
282 Lights-Out
283 Lights-Out 2nd
284 yclongthrow
285 scdaf
286 Jvrthp321
287 Bill_tong
288 juaquin
289 jama
290 slackwolf
291 slackwolf 2nd
292 noob
293 FlashMax
294 Frankie Baby
295 kaybi
296 vestureofblood
297 smokuxx1987
298 Jimmy007
299 jerrod
300 amplificus
301 DarkerInSol
302 DarkerInSol 2nd
303 thommy
304 Majoroverkill
305 Jaza
306 needmorlts
307 rag
308 aremihc
309 Fredylee
310 twodollarbill
311 PrinceValorum
312 steel_1024
313 atbglenn
314 magnet
315 jscan
316 LessDark
317 Roberrt777
318 Minimoke
319 tru3s1lv3r
320 NightLight
321 shrick
322 shrick
323 eric800
324 TNT
325 gloomywarfreak
326 Saigon
327 carmantl
328 san san
329 BanglaBob
330 saabluster
331 Anthon
332 moridin
333 whooda4
334 yasenf
335 R.D.
336 Schkü
337 Van
338 marsalla
339 itsonlyme
340 gravelmonkey
341 teacher 2nd
342 lightlight22
343 Bupyc
344 Mkduffer
345 thegameisrigged
346 vamper
347 BOMBAY
348 leroycp 2nd
349 KW
350 Lopan
351 firedome
352 AirBreaker
353 Eraursls1984
354 jingleberry
355 slackwolf
356 BeardedRaleigh
357 Mecallie
358 cavorite
359 foton
360 JPLight
361 JPLight
362 akoposilester (2nd)
363 borealis
364 jaynick
365 Shur
366 Kourtinoksylo
367 mrstealyourgains
368 Jalben
369 james y
370 Sullysat
371 Joey Adams
372 teachtom
373
374 j0sh
375 FreeMagenta
376 zeremefico
377 deye223
378 richnpc
379 turboBB
380 nodoubt
381 korpzgrinda
382 famous36
383 nodoubt 2nd
384 Eggun
385 Speed4goal
386 ARsee
387 Zeratull
388
389 blueb8llz
390 blueb8llz
391 whooda4 2nd
392 Umpi2000
393 bkling
394 Jvrthp321
395 zipelgas
396 CASHESVALLEY
397 tatasal
398 trume_3454
399 igeigeige
400 Angel Martínez
401 Ronen98
402 wkhchin81
403 gigbyt
404 Petroleum Lantern Guy
405 AdrianWA
406 Flash-O-Maniac
407 fuzun
408 xray291
409 ilovejesuschrist
410 greg
411 octav
412 keengeorge
413 keengeorge
414 Yourrid
415 Yourrid
416 AdrianWA 2nd
417 turpulator
418 BT100
419 viper1138
420 joseabul
421 romanus
422 Rick (formatting du to the forum showing things between – different)
423 slow2go
424 slow2go
425 DOCFAR
426 pepinfaxera
427 Gerrh
428 Gerrh
429 Kafar
430 Miguel_79
431 mk4off
432 KaiserSosa
433 Ilellero
434 Silent_Star
435 southcovekayak
436 Bo4ka
437 Keisari
438 Jensa41
439 piotrek966
440 osb40000
441 osb40000
442 Slayer1
443 nofear87
444 clinicdoc
445 samsung913
446 Pulsar
447 lichtpfadfinder
448 Bruno28
449 cypher1024
450 shooterschmidty
451
452 solRNY
453 Lowtech
454 Sukoi 2nd
455 gehrmo
456 oto
457 I_like_lamb
458 Jerommel
459 Stoneface
460 scotlarock
461 Tom E 3rd
462 bjs55 2nd
463 BobbyMK
464 Buzzy243
465 djozz
466 michael.k
467 BDM
468 BorisBar
469 Slayer1
470 ARMS.AARON
471 CrashOne
472 sp5it
473 ARsee 2nd
474 olivedrab
475 qandeel 2nd
476 nnmnu1
477 MBuitendorp
478 Essexman
479 xCentrino
480 Awdtsi
481 scianiac
482 Mikael
483 abhinit90
484 Dydi92
485 BT100 2nd
486 The_crx
487 Kalihi
488 sac02
489 noetik
490 freeme
491 Ag76
492 ClaudeMBallz
493 IndyArcher
494 techieman33
495 Tjhosan
496 bella-headlight
497 Texas_Ace
498 Texas_Ace 2nd
499 l1mb0
500 Charga
501 Sledgestone
502 optntdr13
503 amplificus
504 ChibiM
505 Morgy
506 Litefighter
507 pscal
508 X0R
509 shan6oob
510 chokobo
511 zachary6227
512 zoysiamo
513 macktastic
514 darthmater
515 mstephens22
516 Joat

517 DJUnreal
518 Kit Latura
519 Walker Klondike
520 MACS0647
521 carmantl 2nd
522 jescereal
523 jescereal
524 Randolph
525 everydaysurvivalgear
526 clange50
527 Innerlight
528 Curetia
529 amaretto
530 tonylim
531 Flanny
532 TechnOMatriX
533 Hundelampe
534 koyotee
535 Guns712
536 unit311
537 Duke
538 Modden
539 Maiden666
540 tomas.hrubovcak
541 wapd2
542 xtrosity
543 WuTang
544 Oal
545 flaschi
546 samis
547 FrankFlash
548 nitrader0
549 Sonofspectrum
550 MountainMan
551 krutone
552 heatwaves
553 adsum
554 Phantom1
555 Mikael
556 WaylonJennings
557 DiscoJoe
558 Ilmatic
559 Lipfit2000
560 JM87
561 patmet
562 DOHC20
563 southland 2nd
564 southland 3rd
565 southland 4th
566 southland 5th
567 asnidi2
568 Suncoaster
569 jimmy23
570 kevinfc
571 Bo4ka
572 Swennie
573 Franz
574 xxx
575 Phantom1
576 R10500
577 StarCity
578 polarweis
579 Nathan42
580 ColdFusion
581 Rxich
582 Crazyeddie
583 SteveMidwest
584 jerrytx
585 Bozlight29
586 vinte77
587 mezzmen7
588 darrenm
589 Henk4U2
590 maildroid
591 joel95ex
592 ant0
593 light junkie
594 light up
595 spotlighter
596 drood
597 Megabassie
598 Manimok
599 pleply
600 pilotdog68
601 D10ten
602 Jeffstanton
603 Natasha
604 johnjohn
605 BrianK
606 martook
607 Wennn
608 xray291
609 JayWallis

( updated to post 3665 )

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important changes to OP
removed The Miller: General communication from team info
Added tube for 2 × 4 18650 cells, two cells long, yes decided, no 26650/32650
Added negotiable at tail clicky button since Narsil has extremely low parasitic drain and good safe lockout.
Changed glass to plastic for lens
lens thickness 2.5mm
added long fat tube (roughly same size as two stacked SRK tubes)
added Cell placement in carriers, 2 ot them, designed to have a functional light even when there are cells in only 1

POLL results:

POLL6 outside design, second round:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52439
Design 1

POLL 5, design overview.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/51246

POLL 4, LED choice
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50880

POLL 2, name
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50362

POLL 1, shape / for format of te light:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50344
PLUNGER

POLL 3, name, with fewer options
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/50382
BLF GT (Giga Thrower)

Edited by: The Miller on 06/23/2017 - 03:20
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Thanks Mr.Scott

Up to post 3593

 

 

 

The "Core" GT list (from post #1).

 

updated to post 3593

 

Ordered lists

These lists are ordered as The Miller described in Post #1.

  • People requesting their 1st BLF GT have precedence over people requesting a 2nd GT.
  • People requesting their 2nd BLF GT have precedence over people requesting a 3rd GT.
  • People requesting their 3rd BLF GT have precedence over people requesting a 4th GT.
  • Rinse and repeat...

The key is that your request(s) stay above 556 in "Total Count" column (far left column). If you have requested two lights and both are above 556, someone requesting a 2nd light will be placed below your 2nd light and not impact you, but someone requesting a 1st light will be placed above your 2nd light, pushing your 2nd light down one position, potentially down to 556.

 

The GT List

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Total  BLF   User  Req
Count  Name  Count  Num 
-----  -----  -----  ----- 
The Miller  1st  #1
Mitko  1st  #3
Nicolaas  1st  #4
giorgoskok  1st  #5
keithd  1st  #6
mattlward  1st  #7
Sonpham  1st  #8
Dep668  1st  #9
KawiBoy1428  1st  #10
10  RobertB  1st  #11
11  Keepitsharp  1st  #12
12  M78  1st  #13
13  southland  1st  #14
14  Chicken Drumstick  1st  #15
15  djburkes  1st  #16
16  leroycp  1st  #17
17  emarkd  1st  #18
18  pommie  1st  #19
19  Nicolicous  1st  #20
20  staticx57  1st  #21
21  Xandre  1st  #22
22  Khuan  1st  #23
23  casi29061965  1st  #24
24  Mstevens113  1st  #25
25  lionheart_2281  1st  #26
26  Bonham  1st  #27
27  electricjelly  1st  #28
28  nqcken  1st  #29
29  Pegaso  1st  #30
30  JamesB  1st  #31
31  netprince  1st  #32
32  Caleb  1st  #33
33  johny723  1st  #34
34  Gerrh  1st  #35
35  Phoenix_FIN  1st  #36
36  AlexGT  1st  #37
37  JayT  1st  #38
38  slow2go  1st  #39
39  Bribo  1st  #40
40  Gerrit  1st  #41
41  rvr  1st  #42
42  Tom E  1st  #43
43  aslpg  1st  #45
44  Charga  1st  #46
45  qandeel  1st  #47
46  Wieselflinkpro  1st  #48
47  G0OSE  1st  #49
48  Abqjohnny  1st  #50
49  g_sintornillos  1st  #51
50  wiestom89  1st  #52
51  Stittville Ed  1st  #53
52  Pöbel  1st  #54
53  hunter1  1st  #55
54  Wrathbringer27  1st  #56
55  Eivwer  1st  #57
56  fonfan  1st  #58
57  chooma  1st  #59
58  Flashy Mike  1st  #60
59  lawallac  1st  #61
60  antiparanoico  1st  #62
61  kommessy  1st  #63
62  Jeansy  1st  #64
63  Box  1st  #65
64  ImA4Wheelr  1st  #66
65  thijsco19  1st  #67
66  Wineslurper  1st  #68
67  gungoat  1st  #70
68  troisanh  1st  #71
69  teachtom  1st  #72
70  dodo  1st  #73
71  cmflippen  1st  #74
72  maukka  1st  #75
73  warzi1975  1st  #76
74  rajun50  1st  #77
75  ZozzV6  1st  #78
76  DBSAR  1st  #79
77  zelee  1st  #80
78  mhanlen  1st  #81
79  LSX  1st  #82
80  shimano3000  1st  #83
81  archimedes  1st  #84
82  Pok  1st  #85
83  Liber8  1st  #86
84  akoposilester  1st  #87
85  Kozy  1st  #88
86  chrisc  1st  #89
87  tzmxxhh  1st  #90
88  albertopnp  1st  #91
89  Tarvos  1st  #92
90  BlindingL5s  1st  #93
91  Mr.Scott  1st  #94
92  Koaksijalac  1st  #95
93  gorky  1st  #96
94  Kurt_Norway  1st  #97
95  bibihang  1st  #101
96  hampshire  1st  #102
97  gangstead  1st  #103
98  strayz  1st  #104
99  sma  1st  #106
100  Sledgestone  1st  #107
101  samnavy  1st  #108
102  Aardvark Spleen  1st  #109
103  aggillator  1st  #110
104  crx88ia  1st  #111
105  A380  1st  #112
106  Tete  1st  #113
107  malamask  1st  #114
108  netgear68  1st  #115
109  gregor  1st  #116
110  Smittymojo  1st  #117
111  MCT  1st  #118
112  peabody  1st  #119
113  adnj  1st  #120
114  Dwantink  1st  #122
115  Kenjii  1st  #123
116  cloggy  1st  #124
117  WolfA  1st  #125
118  Theodore41  1st  #126
119  CASHESVALLEY  1st  #127
120  MortyDuck  1st  #128
121  Anthon  1st  #129
122  ISO  1st  #130
123  Sciencetists  1st  #131
124  walty  1st  #132
125  viperbart  1st  #133
126  Kurdolf  1st  #134
127  Lfatman  1st  #135
128  240  1st  #136
129  YoFlash  1st  #137
130  stephenk  1st  #138
131  Bruno28  1st  #139
132  derpilgerer  1st  #140
133  puccio1969  1st  #141
134  Lund1660  1st  #142
135  gamezawy  1st  #143
136  Boaz  1st  #144
137  apt323  1st  #145
138  Kodachrome40  1st  #146
139  FlashPilot  1st  #147
140  rfd673  1st  #148
141  MorpheusT1  1st  #149
142  brightlights  1st  #150
143  Dmitriyrus  1st  #151
144  velocraig  1st  #152
145  crz6662  1st  #153
146  Kindle  1st  #154
147  Muto  1st  #155
148  gorb507  1st  #157
149  Aslan  1st  #158
150  Lyubo Yanev  1st  #159
151  RocketTomato  1st  #161
152  Modulor  1st  #162
153  Caleb-v  1st  #163
154  itsme5k  1st  #164
155  JockRobbins  1st  #165
156  RotorHead64  1st  #166
157  J-Dub74  1st  #167
158  prisma  1st  #168
159  theoldbill  1st  #169
160  bjs55  1st  #170
161  Dutcheee  1st  #172
162  westcoastwonders  1st  #173
163  Sarge930  1st  #174
164  mrheosuper  1st  #177
165  shogan  1st  #178
166  Koenta  1st  #179
167  caramba  1st  #180
168  tmxod  1st  #181
169  mdeni  1st  #182
170  teacher  1st  #183
171  sb56637  1st  #184
172  NikolaS  1st  #185
173  CheapThrills  1st  #186
174  TheOnlyDocc  1st  #187
175  HighCaliber  1st  #189
176  e10sno  1st  #190
177  DBSS  1st  #191
178  thesciencenut  1st  #192
179  jmpaul320  1st  #194
180  vol  1st  #195
181  nfetterly  1st  #196
182  niktak11  1st  #197
183  goshdogit  1st  #198
184  abril  1st  #200
185  Vattern  1st  #201
186  treysoucie  1st  #202
187  Martini  1st  #203
188  Sirius9  1st  #204
189  Jesjes  1st  #205
190  papaslightsaber  1st  #206
191  Couchmaster  1st  #207
192  Docp723  1st  #208
193  Kentuckywindage  1st  #210
194  kotobuki  1st  #211
195  NuggetMcNugget  1st  #212
196  adirondackdestroyer  1st  #213
197  spkzzz  1st  #214
198  drood  1st  #216
199  bossf350  1st  #217
200  Cliwilnew  1st  #218
201  LEDtec  1st  #219
202  CJW  1st  #220
203  deathless  1st  #221
204  WillyD  1st  #222
205  jack-bkk  1st  #223
206  pooptoast  1st  #224
207  LloydV  1st  #225
208  FBsLights  1st  #226
209  Norddeutscher  1st  #227
210  slickpenguin  1st  #229
211  Dralf  1st  #230
212  jmoots  1st  #232
213  downlinx  1st  #233
214  Sukoi  1st  #234
215  mizou51  1st  #235
216  sgt253  1st  #236
217  Buzzing Bulb  1st  #237
218  enesrap ?  1st  #238
219  BeardedRaleigh  1st  #239
220  Kulumatic  1st  #240
221  zeroair  1st  #241
222  JaredM  1st  #242
223  battletross  1st  #243
224  plaidshorts  1st  #244
225  Nortson  1st  #245
226  The_Driver  1st  #246
227  Northwoods  1st  #247
228  thslw8jg  1st  #248
229  Rusty Joe  1st  #249
230  knudsengj  1st  #250
231  alex1234  1st  #251
232  needmorlts  1st  #252
233  MagPap  1st  #253
234  Mindaugass  1st  #254
235  light junkie  1st  #255
236  Angel Martínez  1st  #256
237  DarthTader  1st  #257
238  dhsvcs  1st  #258
239  praveendk  1st  #259
240  shirnask  1st  #260
241  Masejoer  1st  #261
242  Ragsy  1st  #263
243  666fixed  1st  #264
244  264  1st  #265
245  Ricflair  1st  #267
246  iron potato  1st  #268
247  kntx  1st  #269
248  DasEtwas  1st  #270
249  Dustynell  1st  #271
250  jkbam  1st  #272
251  Shadowfax  1st  #273
252  specialk  1st  #274
253  Icarus  1st  #275
254  Lights-Out  1st  #276
255  MaleNurse  1st  #278
256  bd52  1st  #279
257  Abe87  1st  #280
258  osb40000  1st  #281
259  yclongthrow  1st  #284
260  scdaf  1st  #285
261  Jvrthp321  1st  #286
262  Bill_tong  1st  #287
263  juaquin  1st  #288
264  jama  1st  #289
265  slackwolf  1st  #290
266  noob  1st  #292
267  FlashMax  1st  #293
268  Frankie Baby  1st  #294
269  kaybi  1st  #295
270  vestureofblood  1st  #296
271  smokuxx1987  1st  #297
272  Jimmy007  1st  #298
273  jerrod  1st  #299
274  amplificus  1st  #300
275  DarkerInSol  1st  #301
276  thommy  1st  #303
277  Majoroverkill  1st  #304
278  Jaza  1st  #305
279  rag  1st  #307
280  aremihc  1st  #308
281  Fredylee  1st  #309
282  twodollarbill  1st  #310
283  PrinceValorum  1st  #311
284  steel_1024  1st  #312
285  atbglenn  1st  #313
286  magnet  1st  #314
287  jscan  1st  #315
288  LessDark  1st  #316
289  Roberrt777  1st  #317
290  Minimoke  1st  #318
291  tru3s1lv3r  1st  #319
292  NightLight  1st  #320
293  shrick  1st  #321
294  eric800  1st  #323
295  TNT  1st  #324
296  gloomywarfreak  1st  #325
297  Saigon  1st  #326
298  carmantl  1st  #327
299  san san  1st  #328
300  BanglaBob  1st  #329
301  saabluster  1st  #330
302  moridin  1st  #332
303  whooda4  1st  #333
304  yasenf  1st  #334
305  R.D.  1st  #335
306  Schkü  1st  #336
307  Van  1st  #337
308  marsalla  1st  #338
309  itsonlyme  1st  #339
310  gravelmonkey  1st  #340
311  lightlight22  1st  #342
312  Bupyc  1st  #343
313  Mkduffer  1st  #344
314  thegameisrigged  1st  #345
315  vamper  1st  #346
316  BOMBAY  1st  #347
317  KW  1st  #349
318  Lopan  1st  #350
319  firedome  1st  #351
320  AirBreaker  1st  #352
321  Eraursls1984  1st  #353
322  jingleberry  1st  #354
323  Mecallie  1st  #357
324  cavorite  1st  #358
325  foton  1st  #359
326  JPLight  1st  #360
327  borealis  1st  #363
328  jaynick  1st  #364
329  Shur  1st  #365
330  Kourtinoksylo  1st  #366
331  mrstealyourgains  1st  #367
332  Jalben  1st  #368
333  james y  1st  #369
334  Sullysat  1st  #370
335  Joey Adams  1st  #371
336  j0sh  1st  #374
337  FreeMagenta  1st  #375
338  zeremefico  1st  #376
339  deye223  1st  #377
340  richnpc  1st  #378
341  turboBB  1st  #379
342  nodoubt  1st  #380
343  korpzgrinda  1st  #381
344  famous36  1st  #382
345  Eggun  1st  #384
346  Speed4goal  1st  #385
347  ARsee  1st  #386
348  Zeratull  1st  #387
349  blueb8llz  1st  #389
350  Umpi2000  1st  #392
351  bkling  1st  #393
352  zipelgas  1st  #395
353  tatasal  1st  #397
354  trume_3454  1st  #398
355  igeigeige  1st  #399
356  Ronen98  1st  #401
357  wkhchin81  1st  #402
358  gigbyt  1st  #403
359  Petroleum Lantern Guy  1st  #404
360  AdrianWA  1st  #405
361  Flash-O-Maniac  1st  #406
362  fuzun  1st  #407
363  xray291  1st  #408
364  ilovejesuschrist  1st  #409
365  greg  1st  #410
366  octav  1st  #411
367  keengeorge  1st  #412
368  Yourrid  1st  #414
369  turpulator  1st  #417
370  BT100  1st  #418
371  viper1138  1st  #419
372  joseabul  1st  #420
373  romanus  1st  #421
374  Rick  1st  #422
375  DOCFAR  1st  #425
376  pepinfaxera  1st  #426
377  Kafar  1st  #429
378  Miguel_79  1st  #430
379  mk4off  1st  #431
380  KaiserSosa  1st  #432
381  Ilellero  1st  #433
382  Silent_Star  1st  #434
383  southcovekayak  1st  #435
384  Bo4ka  1st  #436
385  Keisari  1st  #437
386  Jensa41  1st  #438
387  piotrek966  1st  #439
388  Slayer1  1st  #442
389  nofear87  1st  #443
390  clinicdoc  1st  #444
391  samsung913  1st  #445
392  Pulsar  1st  #446
393  lichtpfadfinder  1st  #447
394  cypher1024  1st  #449
395  shooterschmidty  1st  #450
396  solRNY  1st  #452
397  Lowtech  1st  #453
398  gehrmo  1st  #455
399  oto  1st  #456
400  I_like_lamb  1st  #457
401  Jerommel  1st  #458
402  Stoneface  1st  #459
403  scotlarock  1st  #460
404  BobbyMK  1st  #463
405  Buzzy243  1st  #464
406  djozz  1st  #465
407  michael.k  1st  #466
408  BDM  1st  #467
409  BorisBar  1st  #468
410  ARMS.AARON  1st  #470
411  CrashOne  1st  #471
412  sp5it  1st  #472
413  olivedrab  1st  #474
414  nnmnu1  1st  #476
415  MBuitendorp  1st  #477
416  Essexman  1st  #478
417  xCentrino  1st  #479
418  Awdtsi  1st  #480
419  scianiac  1st  #481
420  Mikael  1st  #482
421  abhinit90  1st  #483
422  Dydi92  1st  #484
423  The_crx  1st  #486
424  Kalihi  1st  #487
425  sac02  1st  #488
426  noetik  1st  #489
427  freeme  1st  #490
428  Ag76  1st  #491
429  ClaudeMBallz  1st  #492
430  IndyArcher  1st  #493
431  techieman33  1st  #494
432  Tjhosan  1st  #495
433  bella-headlight  1st  #496
434  Texas_Ace  1st  #497
435  l1mb0  1st  #499
436  optntdr13  1st  #502
437  ChibiM  1st  #504
438  Morgy  1st  #505
439  Litefighter  1st  #506
440  pscal  1st  #507
441  X0R  1st  #508
442  shan6oob  1st  #509
443  chokobo  1st  #510
444  zachary6227  1st  #511
445  zoysiamo  1st  #512
446  macktastic  1st  #513
447  darthmater  1st  #514
448  mstephens22  1st  #515
449  Joat  1st  #516
450  DJUnreal  1st  #517
451  Kit Latura  1st  #518
452  Walker Klondike  1st  #519
453  MACS0647  1st  #520
454  jescereal  1st  #522
455  Randolph  1st  #524
456  everydaysurvivalgear  1st  #525
457  clange50  1st  #526
458  Innerlight  1st  #527
459  Curetia  1st  #528
460  amaretto  1st  #529
461  tonylim  1st  #530
462  Flanny  1st  #531
463  TechnOMatriX  1st  #532
464  Hundelampe  1st  #533
465  koyotee  1st  #534
466  Guns712  1st  #535
467  unit311  1st  #536
468  Duke  1st  #537
469  Modden  1st  #538
470  Maiden666  1st  #539
471  tomas.hrubovcak  1st  #540
472  wapd2  1st  #541
473  xtrosity  1st  #542
474  WuTang  1st  #543
475  Oal  1st  #544
476  flaschi  1st  #545
477  samis  1st  #546
478  FrankFlash  1st  #547
479  nitrader0  1st  #548
480  Sonofspectrum  1st  #549
481  MountainMan  1st  #550
482  krutone  1st  #551
483  heatwaves  1st  #552
484  adsum  1st  #553
485  Phantom1  1st  #554
486  WaylonJennings  1st  #556
487  DiscoJoe  1st  #557
488  Ilmatic  1st  #558
489  Lipfit2000  1st  #559
490  JM87  1st  #560
491  patmet  1st  #561
492  DOHC20  1st  #562
493  asnidi2  1st  #567
494  Suncoaster  1st  #568
495  jimmy23  1st  #569
496  kevinfc  1st  #570
497  Swennie  1st  #572
498  Franz  1st  #573
499  xxx  1st  #574
500  R10500  1st  #576
501  StarCity  1st  #577
502  polarweis  1st  #578
503  Nathan42  1st  #579
504  ColdFusion  1st  #580
505  Rxich  1st  #581
506  Crazyeddie  1st  #582
507  SteveMidwest  1st  #583
508  jerrytx  1st  #584
509  Bozlight29  1st  #585
510  vinte77  1st  #586
511  mezzmen7  1st  #587
512  darrenm  1st  #588
513  Henk4U2  1st  #589
514  maildroid  1st  #590
515  joel95ex  1st  #591
516  ant0  1st  #592
517  light up  1st  #594
518  spotlighter  1st  #595
519  Megabassie  1st  #597
520  Manimok  1st  #598
521  pleply  1st  #599
522  pilotdog68  1st  #600
523  D10ten  1st  #601
524  Jeffstanton  1st  #602
525  Tom E  2nd  #44
526  Wineslurper  2nd  #69
527  giorgoskok  2nd  #98
528  Kurt_Norway  2nd  #105
529  adnj  2nd  #121
530  Muto  2nd  #156
531  Lyubo Yanev  2nd  #160
532  aslpg  2nd  #171
533  Gerrh  2nd  #175
534  Abqjohnny  2nd  #188
535  KawiBoy1428  2nd  #193
536  Docp723  2nd  #209
537  Aardvark Spleen  2nd  #215
538  Norddeutscher  2nd  #228
539  Dralf  2nd  #231
540  Angel Martínez  2nd  #262
541  Mindaugass  2nd  #266
542  Lights-Out  2nd  #277
543  slackwolf  2nd  #291
544  DarkerInSol  2nd  #302
545  needmorlts  2nd  #306
546  shrick  2nd  #322
547  Anthon  2nd  #331
548  teacher  2nd  #341
549  leroycp  2nd  #348
550  BeardedRaleigh  2nd  #356
551  JPLight  2nd  #361
552  akoposilester  2nd  #362
553  teachtom  2nd  #372
554  nodoubt  2nd  #383
555  blueb8llz  2nd  #390
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556  whooda4  2nd  #391
557  Jvrthp321  2nd  #394
558  CASHESVALLEY  2nd  #396
559  keengeorge  2nd  #413
560  Yourrid  2nd  #415
561  AdrianWA  2nd  #416
562  slow2go  2nd  #423
563  osb40000  2nd  #440
564  Bruno28  2nd  #448
565  Sukoi  2nd  #454
566  bjs55  2nd  #462
567  Slayer1  2nd  #469
568  ARsee  2nd  #473
569  qandeel  2nd  #475
570  BT100  2nd  #485
571  Texas_Ace  2nd  #498
572  Charga  2nd  #500
573  Sledgestone  2nd  #501
574  amplificus  2nd  #503
575  carmantl  2nd  #521
576  jescereal  2nd  #523
577  Mikael  2nd  #555
578  southland  2nd  #563
579  Bo4ka  2nd  #571
580  Phantom1  2nd  #575
581  light junkie  2nd  #593
582  drood  2nd  #596
583  giorgoskok  3rd  #99
584  Gerrh  3rd  #176
585  Lights-Out  3rd  #282
586  slackwolf  3rd  #355
587  Angel Martínez  3rd  #400
588  slow2go  3rd  #424
589  osb40000  3rd  #441
590  Tom E  3rd  #461
591  southland  3rd  #564
592  giorgoskok  4th  #100
593  Lights-Out  4th  #283
594  Gerrh  4th  #427
595  southland  4th  #565
596  Gerrh  5th  #428
597  southland  5th  #566

 


 

The "Core" GT list (from post #1) sorted alphabetically.

 

 

524   BLF Users
597   lights total

 

 

 

Name            
240   136 
264   265 
666fixed   264 
A380   112 
Aardvark Spleen   109  215 
Abe87   280 
abhinit90   483 
Abqjohnny   50  188 
abril   200 
adirondackdestroyer   213 
adnj   120  121 
AdrianWA   405  416 
adsum   553 
Ag76   491 
aggillator   110 
AirBreaker   352 
akoposilester   87  362 
albertopnp   91 
alex1234   251 
AlexGT   37 
amaretto   529 
amplificus   300  503 
Angel Martínez   256  262  400 
ant0   592 
Anthon   129  331 
antiparanoico   62 
apt323   145 
archimedes   84 
aremihc   308 
ARMS.AARON   470 
ARsee   386  473 
Aslan   158 
aslpg   45  171 
asnidi2   567 
atbglenn   313 
Awdtsi   480 
BanglaBob   329 
battletross   243 
bd52   279 
BDM   467 
BeardedRaleigh   239  356 
bella-headlight   496 
bibihang   101 
Bill_tong   287 
bjs55   170  462 
bkling   393 
BlindingL5s   93 
blueb8llz   389  390 
Bo4ka   436  571 
Boaz   144 
BobbyMK   463 
BOMBAY   347 
Bonham   27 
borealis   363 
BorisBar   468 
bossf350   217 
Box   65 
Bozlight29   585 
Bribo   40 
brightlights   150 
Bruno28   139  448 
BT100   418  485 
Bupyc   343 
Buzzing Bulb   237 
Buzzy243   464 
Caleb   33 
Caleb-v   163 
caramba   180 
carmantl   327  521 
CASHESVALLEY   127  396 
casi29061965   24 
cavorite   358 
Charga   46  500 
CheapThrills   186 
ChibiM   504 
Chicken Drumstick   15 
chokobo   510 
chooma   59 
chrisc   89 
CJW   220 
clange50   526 
ClaudeMBallz   492 
clinicdoc   444 
Cliwilnew   218 
cloggy   124 
cmflippen   74 
ColdFusion   580 
Couchmaster   207 
CrashOne   471 
Crazyeddie   582 
crx88ia   111 
crz6662   153 
Curetia   528 
cypher1024   449 
D10ten   601 
DarkerInSol   301  302 
darrenm   588 
darthmater   514 
DarthTader   257 
DasEtwas   270 
DBSAR   79 
DBSS   191 
deathless   221 
Dep668  
derpilgerer   140 
deye223   377 
dhsvcs   258 
DiscoJoe   557 
djburkes   16 
djozz   465 
DJUnreal   517 
Dmitriyrus   151 
DOCFAR   425 
Docp723   208  209 
dodo   73 
DOHC20   562 
downlinx   233 
Dralf   230  231 
drood   216  596 
Duke   537 
Dustynell   271 
Dutcheee   172 
Dwantink   122 
Dydi92   484 
e10sno   190 
Eggun   384 
Eivwer   57 
electricjelly   28 
emarkd   18 
enesrap ?   238 
Eraursls1984   353 
eric800   323 
Essexman   478 
everydaysurvivalgear   525 
famous36   382 
FBsLights   226 
firedome   351 
Flanny   531 
flaschi   545 
Flash-O-Maniac   406 
FlashMax   293 
FlashPilot   147 
Flashy Mike   60 
fonfan   58 
foton   359 
FrankFlash   547 
Frankie Baby   294 
Franz   573 
Fredylee   309 
FreeMagenta   375 
freeme   490 
fuzun   407 
G0OSE   49 
g_sintornillos   51 
gamezawy   143 
gangstead   103 
gehrmo   455 
Gerrh   35  175  176  427  428 
Gerrit   41 
gigbyt   403 
giorgoskok   98  99  100 
gloomywarfreak   325 
gorb507   157 
gorky   96 
goshdogit   198 
gravelmonkey   340 
greg   410 
gregor   116 
gungoat   70 
Guns712   535 
hampshire   102 
heatwaves   552 
Henk4U2   589 
HighCaliber   189 
Hundelampe   533 
hunter1   55 
I_like_lamb   457 
Icarus   275 
igeigeige   399 
Ilellero   433 
Ilmatic   558 
ilovejesuschrist   409 
ImA4Wheelr   66 
IndyArcher   493 
Innerlight   527 
iron potato   268 
ISO   130 
itsme5k   164 
itsonlyme   339 
J-Dub74   167 
j0sh   374 
jack-bkk   223 
Jalben   368 
jama   289 
james y   369 
JamesB   31 
JaredM   242 
jaynick   364 
JayT   38 
Jaza   305 
Jeansy   64 
Jeffstanton   602 
Jensa41   438 
Jerommel   458 
jerrod   299 
jerrytx   584 
jescereal   522  523 
Jesjes   205 
Jimmy007   298 
jimmy23   569 
jingleberry   354 
jkbam   272 
JM87   560 
jmoots   232 
jmpaul320   194 
Joat   516 
JockRobbins   165 
joel95ex   591 
Joey Adams   371 
johny723   34 
joseabul   420 
JPLight   360  361 
jscan   315 
juaquin   288 
Jvrthp321   286  394 
Kafar   429 
KaiserSosa   432 
Kalihi   487 
KawiBoy1428   10  193 
kaybi   295 
keengeorge   412  413 
Keepitsharp   12 
Keisari   437 
keithd  
Kenjii   123 
Kentuckywindage   210 
kevinfc   570 
Khuan   23 
Kindle   154 
Kit Latura   518 
kntx   269 
knudsengj   250 
Koaksijalac   95 
Kodachrome40   146 
Koenta   179 
kommessy   63 
korpzgrinda   381 
kotobuki   211 
Kourtinoksylo   366 
koyotee   534 
Kozy   88 
krutone   551 
Kulumatic   240 
Kurdolf   134 
Kurt_Norway   97  105 
KW   349 
l1mb0   499 
lawallac   61 
LEDtec   219 
leroycp   17  348 
LessDark   316 
Lfatman   135 
Liber8   86 
lichtpfadfinder   447 
light junkie   255  593 
light up   594 
lightlight22   342 
Lights-Out   276  277  282  283 
lionheart_2281   26 
Lipfit2000   559 
Litefighter   506 
LloydV   225 
Lopan   350 
Lowtech   453 
LSX   82 
Lund1660   142 
Lyubo Yanev   159  160 
M78   13 
macktastic   513 
MACS0647   520 
magnet   314 
MagPap   253 
Maiden666   539 
maildroid   590 
Majoroverkill   304 
malamask   114 
MaleNurse   278 
Manimok   598 
marsalla   338 
Martini   203 
Masejoer   261 
mattlward  
maukka   75 
MBuitendorp   477 
MCT   118 
mdeni   182 
Mecallie   357 
Megabassie   597 
mezzmen7   587 
mhanlen   81 
michael.k   466 
Miguel_79   430 
Mikael   482  555 
Mindaugass   254  266 
Minimoke   318 
Mitko  
mizou51   235 
mk4off   431 
Mkduffer   344 
Modden   538 
Modulor   162 
Morgy   505 
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reserved for outside design

Traditional flashlight shape decided via poll.

PIC with sizes, just take a ruler and try to get a grasp on the size ot it Smile

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POLL OPTIONS when posted it will be just named “design X: without names.
tonight this will be the choices I enter in the poll, if anybody wants to add certain choices, please let me know.

Fritz

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Thijsco square

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Thijsco rounded

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5ar

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Jerommel

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Mortyduck

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Jerommel designed a light with the emphasis on inner workings and focus of the big reflector:

Older design of Jerommel:

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Start designs
Texas Ace traditional “plunger” light:

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Thijsco19
Super simple design. 130 mm head. 50 mm battery tube (4s2p setup)

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Polled out yet too cool to remove from the progress record:

Djozz surprised with a real out of the box designthat has to be used in anther project Smile

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reserved now used for reflector

MortyDuck wrote:

I did some research about the perfect parabola on my own, and it seem that we are just a little bit of in our measures..
I came in contact whit Bob from a math forum, and we discussed the parabolic equation, and this is the tread:

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=23575



When the diameter is 120mm the depth for a perfect parabolic diagram is 92,63mm (rounded upwards to 93mm for simplicity),
not 112mm taken from an upscaled TN42 design..

Maybe it can give us an edge? Wink



Morten.

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Almost 20mm shorter head Less weight Less material head Less material reflector Sounds more then interesting I think.
MortyDuck wrote:
That was easy: Shenzhen Bo Rui Seiko Technology Co., Ltd
Koenta wrote:
This is the graph for XHP35 HI postimage

Enderman wrote:
Ok guys so I have done some calculations trying to figure out exactly how the dimensions of the reflector would work.
This isn’t a ray trace and it will not show how one reflector might perform better than another (based on size of LED and distance from LED to reflector curface)
But what it can do is show you how tall or wide you might want your reflector, and the distance from the LED to the closest point on the reflector (making this bigger will reduce corona around the hotspot for a more collimated beam)

Here are the equations you can input to desmos calculator (you can copy paste these right in, one box each):
https://www.desmos.com/calculator
y=s\cdot x^2-\frac{.25}{s}
y=-x-\frac{.5}{s}
y=x-\frac{.5}{s}
s=0.03 (for this one you will want to click the number at the end of the slider and set it to 0 <= s <= 0.2 step=0.005)
y=0
-60 < x < 60 (diameter that you want your reflector to be, in this case 120mm) (you can also just do lines like in the image if you want to see better)

Now what you can do is move the S slider back and forth to change the size of the reflector.
You will see that the reflector is sitting slightly below y=0, this is because the LED will be centered at (0,0) and anything below y=0 will not be used at all by the LED, since the LED cannot project light behind it.
Changing S will adjust the shape to be deeper or shallower, and you can see the height of the reflector is from y=0 to the point where the parabola intersects the vertical X lines we put in.

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In the screenshot I took, the reflector is 100mm deep, 120mm diameter, and it has almost 34mm opening at the bottom. Green and blue lines are unnecessary but they show that the 45 degree tangent is always on the line y=0, so no matter how big or small your make your reflector it will always be focused at the LED at 0,0. Getting the height is really easy then, since you start at y=0 and measure upwards.

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Another way you can use this set of equations is by setting y=the height you want your reflector to be, and adjust S to see the diameter (where the parabola intersects the y line) and that will show you the shpae of the reflector, how much of it is being used, etc. Remember the part of the parabola below y=0 will never be used for reflecting light, so it is just dead space.
Hopefully this helps someone design their own reflector or something Smile

lampyris wrote:
Regarding the manufacturer of the lovely IM reflector, could it be Nata?

A bit of detective work led me to this idea:

The smaller xml10 reflector Here is exactly the same as the Cutter xml10r Here The manufacturer is listed as Nata on the Cutter site and the image is the same on both IM and Cutter pages.

Might be worth someone with the language skills that I lack contacting Nata?

Hope this helps

ImA4Wheelr wrote:

CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.


 



Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.



 

ImA4Wheelr wrote:

So it turns out the IM reflector I have mentions is manufactured in China.  I got the following response from IM:


 


“We are willing to do optical ray tracing analysis on other LED options on the 100-1332 reflector.
It is a specular, ultra bright finish, (no facets or flutes).

Attached is a sketch of the dimensions and interface.  Please send to me a drawing of the LED/reflector interface you are looking for. 


After agreement on the modification requested we can then quote to you min order, price and lead time.  Lead time would be 6 weeks and if we can receive the order this week we could deliver before new year. 

Yes, reflectors are manufactured by a medical surgery light optical manufacturer in China.  We have an NDA in place and orders direct to the manufacturer would not be possible as we own and produce the designs.  They use a Swiss M&M machine and can produce parts direct from 3D solid CAD files.  Initial parts would be C02 laser cut, before we acquire a die for the production run. “


 


I told IM that we are early in the Scoping/Designing phase and needed to know what the expected cd/lm would be with an XP-L Hi sized emitter.  I realize we will probably got with XHP-35 Hi, but it will be a reference point.  I feel further communication with IM should be handled by someone that is experienced in this type of stuff.  Maybe the manufacture?.  If The Miller feels someone from BLF should work with IM, I will be happy to hand off to that person and introduce them to IM.


 


lawallac wrote:
Has anyone experience purchasing from Phoenix? http://www.phoenixelectroforms.com/index.html Electoformed reflectors are pretty high end but who knows.

They have some promising looking stuff.  Someone needs to get with them and see what they can offer.

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Nice! Was about time though

And ofc i am interested

XHP35Hi high CRI vs a good W2/3…especialy since it would be a long term project…aint sure about that, especialy with those new coming xpl2 and future xpl2 hi

in a 94mm the picture under so-so reflector a dded V5 deals nearly 650k cds at 5 amps

I have still to dismantle the TN42 to test it out with a nice w2

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Nice idea! But 8 cells?

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It’ll work with 4 Smile

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120mm? geez….

What’s the price target? $100?

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I’m ok with 8 cells, but it better be one hell of a thrower!
You guys planning on cracking the 1Mcd with that 12 cm reflector?

If the price is decent…I’m in!

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Great !

I think too 8 cells are a lot . 4 are ok Wink

Also , count me in too , for any help the team needs .

Edit : Please don’t start an interest list , it will turn into chaos with the expected results

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High CRI!
Count me in.

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Dang dude, you are really pushing the limits here. Two custom and unusual light projects at the same time! Heck yeah, I am in!

Keep this up and make the work… you will generate some real BLF envy.

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I am in

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Im in this one as well! Big Smile

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The debate is lumen vs throw. It will be a big light so will we be happy with a 1400 lumen XP-L HI and try to hit 1Mcd?, or will we settle for 700kcd with a 2000+ lumen XHP35?, or go 4000 lumen / 300kcd with a XHP70? (numbers are a very fast guess)

My first feeling is that in a light this big I expect more than 2000 lumen, even though that implies that maximum throw for the reflector will not be reached.

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I’m in for a couple high quality hosts IF you can get them made first, before the multitude of requests and idea’s and other BS start’s flowing in, I have the drivers, boards and LED’s already.

It can’t be that hard just copy the TN42 with a bigger reflector and keep the carrier 4S, easy peasy, then just slap BLF on the side? If you have too?

Let the games begin! Facepalm

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I need to blind my neighbors a half mile across the lake. I’m in

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djozz wrote:
The debate is lumen vs throw. It will be a big light so will we be happy with a 1400 lumen XP-L HI and try to hit 1Mcd?, or will we settle for 700kcd with a 2000+ lumen XHP35?, or go 4000 lumen / 300kcd with a XHP70? (numbers are a very fast guess)

My first feeling is that in a light this big I expect more than 2000 lumen, even though that implies that maximum throw for the reflector will not be reached.

+1

It is usually a compromise between lumens and lux. One direction to go is multiple reflectors/emitters, like a bigger TM16GT. This way one can get lumens and lux as long as the separate reflectors make good use of the available area and are driven well.

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Too much unsure so I will start keeping the interest list later down the path Wink
For now just think along

Basic ways the same as the Q8:
Designs open source
No money/profit for the team, just the fun of doing it
Open about and for as much as possible Smile

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I’m in for sure, make sure there is a good copper heat sink in there somewhere.

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Interested.

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I’m interested too…but…where does it end, lol? Instead of starting with a 120mm reflector why not a 160mm? It’s best to start big instead of small due to the fact that newer, bigger, and better will be out before you know it. It’ll take a little longer for a manufacturer to best it if you build it big. The Eagletac M25C2 Turbo that I modded with a fet and dedomed XM-L2 U4 1A has a 92mm reflector and does 636,763cd. My wife calls it the plunger because the head is so much bigger than the body but it throws like crazy. I’d still like to be able to hold the light with one hand though, so 160mm may be out of the question…unless a handle is added…

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CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.

 

Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.

 

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I’m in!

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Would prefer 4 cells instead of 8 (in fact not interested at all if 8 cells). Go for max lux over lumens (plenty of flooders or compromise beam lights around).

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ImA4Wheelr wrote:

CST90 (Inner diameter 117mm, Outer 128mm).  Minimum order quantity, 100.


 



Just need to get them to not cut out the base like above.



 

Is it not too deep? It’s just a question…I’m not into the whole measuring the angle of the beam thing…it just looks really deep to me. I guess that would product more of a spot?…than spill?

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