[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

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They are trying to get all lights shipped. Seems to me they are trying pretty hard. I’m very glad it’s not MY nightmare, much much easier for me to sit on this side of the globe and mod lights. Big Smile

You’re lucky, not that I’m sitting in this hole) where only one fan of flashlights for the whole country Big Smile


Borat is not into flashlight?

cool i'll see you when you get there

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Aslan wrote:
From the list of 555 Dhl all got a flashlight?

500 of the first 850 got shipped. Most people from the front half, but not all, got their light shipped. Still 350 to go, mostly from the back half of the list.

Once we hear some more tracking/shipping info from people, we can then confirm the 4th shipment has happened.

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I’m in that group as well. Yes it sucks, especially knowing to have entered, deposited and payed very early with a likely delivery of mid to end of February.

But!, this should stop after stating the fact. Especially the team here on blf can’t do anything about it. Neal can’t either as it turns out to be too much for one person. Lesson learned. Without him the GT would not have happened anyways.

So let’s silently be pissed as much as you please (me included) but don’t make it harder for all the ppl who can’t change it anyways.


My payment is also on 12/02/2017,but by registered mail,so I wait… Sad
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JasonWW wrote:
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From the list of 555 Dhl all got a flashlight?

500 of the first 850 got shipped. Most people from the front half, but not all, got their light shipped. Still 350 to go, mostly from the back half of the list.

Once we hear some more tracking/shipping info from people, we can then confirm the 4th shipment has happened.

#126, DHL here, no sign of my light. Patiently waiting Smile

Perhaps location could be added into the list of people that have received their lights so we have a rough idea where they are going.

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DB Custom wrote:
Not yet, there are still some from the first 555 waiting…

Yep. I’m in the first 555 and I paid for mine before the December 31st deadline and I have no response and no tracking info though I paid and selected DHL shipping and no batteries . I emailed Neal last week but got no response. I know he’s got a lot on his plate though. I sure would like some kind of update though. I don’t even know where else to inquire.

Trying to follow this thread is nearly impossible.

I’m just now hearing that we are getting 4000K emmiters.

Edit:
Ok, it took a bit but I just found TA’s review of the emitter and he explained most of the reasoning so I get it. I just wish I knew before now but the lumen numbers sound good so that’s a bonus. I know from my work with Convoy just how hard it is to find neutral emitters in good bins in big quantities. Nearly impossible most of the time really. Much respect for all the hard work put in on this one. Sorry to lodge a complaint before even getting the light. Sure would like some update on when mine will ship though!
Edit #2:
I removed my grumbling about the “too warm” emitter after finally finding the reason listed by TA and realizing my venting didn’t add anything of value. Hopefully the shipping delay means I’ll be getting a really nice reflector.

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teacher wrote:
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maybe we better limit future group buys to 150 to 250 units…

see quality and get first reviews

the second run can be done off the shelfes of a regular shop then who has bigger resources for warehouse and shipping

(which obviously raises the price drastically)

Hmmmm… maybe so.

Or, an alternate idea would be to remove chronic complainers from the list.

You know, those very, very few people that continually complain & moan of and about non-critical issues constantly.

If they have already paid… issue them a refund.

And let that be that……

Just another thought that would solve the problem without punishing the overwhelming vast majority of people that exhibit a degree of patience & understanding required in a Group Buy of this magnitude…. or any GB really.

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Edit / 1-19-2018 …… 14:12 CDT

It seems the alternate method I presented above is unpopular with a few. So be it….
I totally agree with the idea M4DM4X presents above. “limit future group buys to 150 to 250 units…”

pommie wrote:

As most of the ones that you are continually complaining about are in the first 550
and paid their deposits so that the GB could proceed, if you had banned them the GT would never have happened.

Just another thought

Cheers David

ooops, didn’t edit the quote right, fixed now, it wasn’t MadMax that said it Blushing

First of all…. This was about Future Group Buys, NOT the GT.

Second.. NOT complaining about the few constant continual complainers at all. Just pointing out there is no use for it after the point was made. It would change nothing. (except in this case it did cause LT to revert back to the V1 reflector for a short time. Nice going.)

Third, NO mention of “banning” anyone was made.
It was an alternative to M4DMAX’s suggestion to limit Future Group Buys. One that would not impact the vast majority of participants by limiting the number involved.
It would simply remove the extremely small number of people who were not happy campers.

Fourth, since you mentioned it; the GT Group Buy would have occurred just fine.
The tiny down payment was securing a GT for an unheard of low price… nothing more. Despite false hopes of preferred arrival times…. it was to secure a preferred price… that is all.
There are plenty of people who would have been more than happy to pay this measly down payment to secure the preferred price.

So again… the best advice was given by TA, as well as what Pöbel wrote… quoted below.

Texas_Ace wrote:
Ok, got a minor update last night.

(snip)

The reduction in numbers seems to be due to lumintop going back to the V2 reflector feedrate to hopefully improve the quality some. So lets not go back to complaining about speed and just wait for them to be done, ok? Mixed messages do not help things.

So, things are on track and there are no problems. You will get your light, it just is taking longer then expected. Overall though this GB has gone very smoothly, surprisingly so to be honest. I mean I will take some shipping delays over issues with the lights any day.

(snip)

Pöbel wrote:
I’m in that group as well. Yes it sucks, especially knowing to have entered, deposited and payed very early with a likely delivery of mid to end of February.

But!, this should stop after stating the fact. Especially the team here on blf can’t do anything about it. Neal can’t either as it turns out to be too much for one person. Lesson learned. Without him the GT would not have happened anyways.

So let’s silently be pissed as much as you please (me included) but don’t make it harder for all the ppl who can’t change it anyways.


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Edit for spelling…. 1-19-2018 .. 18:19

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Yep. I’m in the first 555 and I paid for mine before the December 31st deadline and I have no response and no tracking info though I paid and selected DHL shipping and no batteries . I emailed Neal last week but got no response.

When you paid, did you get your normal confirmation from Paypal? A lot of folks, but not all, got auto generated emails from Neal listing the details of their purchase, asking to confirm their phone number and thanking them for their purchase. I’m not sure why everyone didn’t get one. No matter, people that did not get this email still got their light delivered.

You won’t get tracking info until after it ships.

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Pommie, your [(edit) now deleted] post is was more BS. If you care to continue. Take it to PM.

IF you cannot understand the simple things I wrote above, sorry… I can’t break it down any simpler.

And I took no “shot” at you. I never mentioned you at all.

You quoted me. After a couple of tries that is.

Are you feeling guilty about being one of the very few?? You must think you are since you apparently got rattled by this.

Do you not think people are tired & “fed up” of hearing the same whining crap over & over….. by whoever is doing it.

And I am referring to things that cannot be changed…. NOT legitimate problems or questions.

The things that cannot be changed have been explained numerous times. NOTHING can be done about them.

It Is What It Is. TA has explained it until he is blue in the face I imagine.

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I woke up and started reading expecting the normal drama only to be pleasantly surprised at some light hearted banter for the first few pages.

Lets get back to that and leave the drama behind please.

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JasonWW wrote:
Tuigali wrote:
It appears my FedEx package WAS the GT…
Neal has sorted, and provided a new tracking number-with FedEx…very quickly too in all fairness.

Probably worth dropping him a message if you’ve had a similar issue,
I know there was at least one other person who mentioned it earlier.


This is interesting news. I wonder why it’s not DHL? Does it say delivery will be within a few days?

I am not sure either although my guess is it has something to do with customs. They mentioned having to get a new permit to ship lithium batteries, maybe this is what they were talking about.

Could also be cheaper or more reliable to use Fedex to the UK as well, hard to say. As long as they are shipping and arriving, that is all that matters.

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Aslan wrote:
Eraursls1984 wrote:

I wonder how Neal chooses whom to answer, and who does not, he never answered me.

When you have hundreds of messages a day, you simply don’t have time to answer them all. Been there, done that.

You have to scan them and find the ones that you can actually do something about or provide new information to and prioritize those.

Basic status checks and the like make up a large portion of the messages both he and I are getting and there is simply nothing else we can tell you in most cases besides lights are shipping each week.

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So, I’ve been looking at the GT and wondering…. I have a couple of friends that like to camp out, one of them loves doing it in ridiculously cold weather. If the GT were modified to the XHP-70.2, could it not be used as an emergency rations heater? I mean, remove the bezel and lens, set the reflector aside, put a SS bowl in the head and fill it with soup or whatever, turn the light on for about 10 minutes, voila! Steaming Chef Boyardee Lasagna! Big Smile (or Ravioli or whatever)

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JasonWW wrote:
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Yep. I’m in the first 555 and I paid for mine before the December 31st deadline and I have no response and no tracking info though I paid and selected DHL shipping and no batteries . I emailed Neal last week but got no response.

When you paid, did you get your normal confirmation from Paypal? A lot of folks, but not all, got auto generated emails from Neal listing the details of their purchase, asking to confirm their phone number and thanking them for their purchase. I’m not sure why everyone didn’t get one. No matter, people that did not get this email still got their light delivered.

You won’t get tracking info until after it ships.


Yes, I got confirmation of payment and the auto-generated email from Neal and I responded with congratulations to him on his wedding and my info. I haven’t heard a thing since. I sent a follow-up to that email 9 days ago asking if there was any update. No response to that email either.
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Yep. I’m in the first 555 and I paid for mine before the December 31st deadline and I have no response and no tracking info though I paid and selected DHL shipping and no batteries . I emailed Neal last week but got no response.

When you paid, did you get your normal confirmation from Paypal? A lot of folks, but not all, got auto generated emails from Neal listing the details of their purchase, asking to confirm their phone number and thanking them for their purchase. I’m not sure why everyone didn’t get one. No matter, people that did not get this email still got their light delivered.

You won’t get tracking info until after it ships.


Yes, I got confirmation of payment and the auto-generated email from Neal and I responded with congratulations to him on his wedding and my info. I haven’t heard a thing since. I sent a follow-up to that email 9 days ago asking if there was any update. No response to that email either.

That’s better than some. Perfectly normal.
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kntx wrote:
I I see in the pic with the bag,that GT already has the stainless ring to conect the shoulder strap; does lumintop deliver it already those rings,or if not,where can i buy them?would be nice to order them together with the bag also

 

Neal includes a ring to use the strap of the bag on the GT Wink

 

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teacher wrote:
First of all…. This was about Future Group Buys, NOT the GT.

Then why posting it here ? Tired
This thread is a pain to follow since long, why overloading it with off-topic things ?

EDIT : this message was marked as rude… Facepalm

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I’m waiting for whenever I get PM to pay for my GT, but for now my (bag and cap set) is ordered and paid.

Thanks

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for the people who use the internet without reading...

ONE cap is INCLUDED in the "bag & cap"

no need to buy the "ONLY THE CAP" also
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Tally-ho wrote:
teacher wrote:
First of all…. This was about Future Group Buys, NOT the GT.
Then why posting it here ? Tired
This thread is a pain to follow since long, why overloading it with off-topic things ?
Sorry, I can’t answer that. I was replying to a post already posted about Future Group Buys. That is all.

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DB Custom wrote:
So, I’ve been looking at the GT and wondering…. I have a couple of friends that like to camp out, one of them loves doing it in ridiculously cold weather. If the GT were modified to the XHP-70.2, could it not be used as an emergency rations heater? I mean, remove the bezel and lens, set the reflector aside, put a SS bowl in the head and fill it with soup or whatever, turn the light on for about 10 minutes, voila! Steaming Chef Boyardee Lasagna! Big Smile (or Ravioli or whatever)

All jokes aside I’m sure it could. My only concern, or question, “Do you think this would cause an overheat sinerio..?”

I do know however, in a pinch, and if it was my only option, I would definitely attempt to use my DX80 as a stove top..!
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In an emergency I would eat ravioli , soup or whatever cold ,because I’m well hard Crazy

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Tally-ho wrote:

EDIT : this message was marked as rude… Facepalm
Rest assured… I DID NOT mark it. Thumbs Up

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Just posting to tell that fully agree with pommie’s remarks about teacher’s post that is shelving us dedicated GT buyers and supporters as ‘whiners that should be excluded from the buy’. pommie worded what I was thinking but was I too Tired to write it down.

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Just posting to tell that fully agree with pommie’s remarks about teacher’s post that is shelving us dedicated GT buyers and supporters as ‘whiners that should be excluded from the buy’. pommie worded what I was thinking but was I too Tired to write it down.

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Teacher is whining about people whining, so he is not different as them…he should be excluded from future group buy. Evil

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In an emergency I would eat ravioli , soup or whatever cold ,because I’m hard Crazy
I’m with you Nev… Wink . Not necessarily cause I am “hard”… cause I am kinda lazy. Big Smile

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teacher wrote:
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In an emergency I would eat ravioli , soup or whatever cold ,because I’m hard Crazy
I’m with you Nev… Wink . Not necessarily cause I am “hard”… cause I am kinda lazy. Big Smile

Just admit it you’re well ard like me Wink
I’ll even open the can with my teef.
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Works for me then. Thumbs Up
I agree with M4DM4X…. LIMIT Future Group Buys to 150 – 250 people.
Will edit my original post to show total support of M4DM4X’s idea. Wink

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Edit / 1-19-2018 …… 14:35 CDT

It appears the alternate method I presented is unpopular with a few. So be it….
I totally agree with the idea M4DM4X presents in the quote below. “maybe we better limit future group buys to 150 to 250 units…”

M4D M4X wrote:

maybe we better limit future group buys to 150 to 250 units…

see quality and get first reviews

the second run can be done off the shelfes of a regular shop then who has bigger resources for warehouse and shipping

(which obviously raises the price drastically)

You never know how a horse will pull until you hook him up to a heavy load./"Bear" Bryant 

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Nev wrote:
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Nev wrote:
In an emergency I would eat ravioli , soup or whatever cold ,because I’m hard Crazy
I’m with you Nev… Wink . Not necessarily cause I am “hard”… cause I am kinda lazy. Big Smile
Just admit it you’re well ard like me Wink
I’ll even open the can with my teef.
OK…… Wink …. But I am gonna have to draw the line at using my ‘teefies’… I gotta save those. Big Smile

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