[Interest & Feasibility Check] Sofirn SP10S "BLF edition" with Andúril

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So are these the same as the black Shockli 14500 1000mah cells that previously said 3A max on them? The listing you linked still says 3A, and the ones I ordered from Amazon say 3A, but the cell testing shows they obviously perform above 3A… I’m assuming they just changed the wrap? Maybe Simon from Shockli can comment… interesting.

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pioneer24 wrote:
So are these the same as the black Shockli 14500 1000mah cells that previously said 3A max on them? The listing you linked still says 3A, and the ones I ordered from Amazon say 3A, but the cell testing shows they obviously perform above 3A… I’m assuming they just changed the wrap? Maybe Simon from Shockli can comment… interesting.

You have to understand what the amp readings mean. Normally when a battery is rated with a number it will either be max continuous or max pulse. Max continuous means it’s put on a special machine that applies a 3A load and constantly maintains the same 3A from 4.2v all the way down to 2.8v and the temperature of the cell never exceeds it’s safe max temperature (typically 60°C-70°C. Each model cell has it’s factory specs).

What this means is that the cell can pull more than 3A, just for a shorter amount of time or if the temperature is monitored.

Looking at the Shockli picture it says Max: 5A
It does not give any real details if that is max continuous or max pulse.

I see HKJ has tested the version that says 3A max and found it to handle 5A max continuous. I’m guessing Shockli changed the wrapper to 5A since the 3A rating was too conservative.

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I’m sure the actual manufacturer of the batteries stated 3A when they were selling in bulk to Shockli, then they saw the review by HKJ and decided to update the wrap LOL
Still no idea who the manufacturer is, and why are they selling these nice cells to only 1 company.

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Interested.

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Thro wrote:
I got them from the Shockli aliexpress store

2 weeks to Belgium

Does it come with the clear plastic case?

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Yes it does,the batteries are wrapped in plastic wrap, and put in a plastic box. same as my shockli 26650 Thumbs Up

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Any updates on this recently? After using the SP10B and SP10S regularly for a while now I’d like to see an SP10S v2 to tide us over Innocent . For me, an SP10S with mode memory and shortcut to moon (on NiMH) would be perfect.

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Unfortunately I don’t think this project is going forward. There are no updates for a while now, which can mean only one thing.
It’s a shame that small form-factor lights are kind of neglected in the last year or two. Especially now since we have 14500 batteries with real 1000mAh and 5A constant current draw potential.
Even large-scale manufacturers don’t have any new 14500 lights.

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Ventsi wrote:
Even large-scale manufacturers don’t have any new 14500 lights.

Lumintop, Wuben, Skilhunt, Manker have some, but others as Olight or Nitecore don’t. Olight missed the opportunity to make a nice 14500 light with the recent i5T EOS, despite it seems a good AA light.
The problem is… the UI in all of them is not what we, as flashlaholics, are searching for!

That’s the reason why the project would also stand out…

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Completely missed it until early today but the Skilhunt M150 looks pretty good, emitter swap is a must though!

Edit: actually I saw your awesome review but must have forgotten about the light

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What is the closest AAA/10440 light with Anduril equivalent to the SP10S BLF? (Probably doesn’t exist). I wish more manufacturers would focus on supporting 10440 or 14500 batteries, especially with drivers that wouldn’t convert most of the energy to heat with a fully charged 4.2V battery.

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I’d be interested as well.

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Anduril support requires an e-switch, so there's some out there, not many. I've gotten 15 mm drivers running Narsil, easily converted to Anduril, but think' the smallest light I've done was the OnTheRoad M3 with AUX LED in switch support:

It gets tricky. Of course if the light/driver was designed for a ATtiny85 or 1634 with our supported designs, it would be wayyy easier to get it in a small light.

 

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I log into Budget Light Forum every day
To see if the new BLF SP-10 is on its way

But to my dismay, in this thread
No words of progress can be read

I joined their forum as to not to miss my chance
To buy something new to stop darkness advance

Any lumen will do, they say
But it is not just any ray

That lights my path back to the road
But for me it is the Anduril moonlight mode

The nights are dark and my days are gloomy
until news the release date is looming

(social isolation is a bad thing, I am writing poetry about flashlights)

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I'm think'n D-E-D, DED. But who knows - project could be temporarily frozen and thaw out in another year or two -- it's happened here before, even very successfully (LT1).

No posts from Barry ever, last post from OP 4 months ago, last post from TK 11 months ago ... frown

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I must admit I'm not sure about the current status of this project. The experts who once worked on the technical details have become silent. They probably have more important things to do right now. The crucial points of this flashlight will be 1) the boost driver to run both 1.2V NiMH and 3.7V Li-Ion batteries and 2) the corresponding changes in the Andúril firmware. Maybe ToyKeeper can give us any news if there are any. Sofirn is probably just about getting back into full operation, so I expect they have to deal with a big backlog.

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sunsethiker wrote:
(social isolation is a bad thing, I am writing poetry about flashlights)

And you’re lighting up a grin on my face! Thumbs Up

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Please make an SP10S V2 in the meantime with a shortcut to moon! Pretty please!

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hodor wrote:
Please make an SP10S V2 in the meantime with a shortcut to moon! Pretty please!

I second that request ! LOL Love
This is my only grip with the SP10S.
i would buy the SP10S V2 for sure and Later the Andúril version as my 4th sp10 Cool

ditto on the “Pretty please!” Wink

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hodor wrote:
Please make an SP10S V2 in the meantime with a shortcut to moon! Pretty please!

YESSSS! Just picked up the LH351D SP10S and its a nice little light. Granted, I strongly prefer tail clickies but I’m getting used to this. With a nimh its nice that it always comes on in low, too bad you have to cycle through all the high modes to get to moonlight, though.

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