COURUI DO1 'Big Head' (Black/GRAY NOW AVAILABLE) $29.99 @ Gearbest ( use coupon: gbcourui) A long-throw modder's light!

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I feel like venting a little. So, here is a little rant. Feel free to not read it.

I’m tired of getting tracking numbers that don’t track anything. My Courui is marked as shipped and has a tracking number that I paid $1.99 extra to get. I try to track it and it says nothing found. It seems to be the natural state of the world now that tracking numbers are not updated properly or something. I bought an Olight i3s on eBay on the 10th of September. It had a tracking number assigned to it within a couple days. But, not until yesterday did it show any activity at all (Processed through sort facility). Do people not realize that the reason we want tracking numbers is so that we can actually track something? It’s really worse than not having a number at all, because it creates an expectation. Especially, in this case (the Courui), when I paid extra for the privilege of having tracking available.

Tracking shipments has been done for decades, at least by Fed-Ex and UPS. The technology, the processes, everything has been worked out. If they can do it, by now anybody should be able to. There is no reason why a shipping system can’t get tracking right. As for the seller, they are perpetrating fraud when they give a tracking number that is no good. Perhaps they are generating a label, which provides a tracking number, but holding the package and not shipping it. In that case, keep your worthless tracking number until it is worth something – after you’ve actually shipped my items! Until there is something to track, you aren’t doing me any favor by providing a tracking number to me.

Just to be sure, let me clarify something. I’m not ranting about long delivery times. I know that is just the way it is sometimes. I’ve learned to expect long shipping times and be pleasantly surprised when the shipping time isn’t very long. I just can’t understand why “tracking” isn’t consistently tracking anything so many times. It would seem to be so easy to get it right.

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Make sure you are using the real tracking number and not just the order number which looks similiar…
There is vacation in china so I guess all our shipments are on one heap for some days before they get tracked.

I used NL post which isn’t trackable but gives shorter delivery times to my country so I can’t check if it is a singular problem

I like to track my shipments, I have the parcels app and it’s quite fun to have an overview which shipment will income next. But I also like the Christmas like surprise packages I have already forgotten about.

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DavidEF wrote:
I feel like venting a little. So, here is a little rant. Feel free to not read it.

I’m tired of getting tracking numbers that don’t track anything. My Courui is marked as shipped and has a tracking number that I paid $1.99 extra to get. I try to track it and it says nothing found. It seems to be the natural state of the world now that tracking numbers are not updated properly or something. I bought an Olight i3s on eBay on the 10th of September. It had a tracking number assigned to it within a couple days. But, not until yesterday did it show any activity at all (Processed through sort facility). Do people not realize that the reason we want tracking numbers is so that we can actually track something? It’s really worse than not having a number at all, because it creates an expectation. Especially, in this case (the Courui), when I paid extra for the privilege of having tracking available.

Tracking shipments has been done for decades, at least by Fed-Ex and UPS. The technology, the processes, everything has been worked out. If they can do it, by now anybody should be able to. There is no reason why a shipping system can’t get tracking right. As for the seller, they are perpetrating fraud when they give a tracking number that is no good. Perhaps they are generating a label, which provides a tracking number, but holding the package and not shipping it. In that case, keep your worthless tracking number until it is worth something – after you’ve actually shipped my items! Until there is something to track, you aren’t doing me any favor by providing a tracking number to me.

Just to be sure, let me clarify something. I’m not ranting about long delivery times. I know that is just the way it is sometimes. I’ve learned to expect long shipping times and be pleasantly surprised when the shipping time isn’t very long. I just can’t understand why “tracking” isn’t consistently tracking anything so many times. It would seem to be so easy to get it right.

It will probably update once it gets in the country

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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Make sure you are using the real tracking number and not just the order number which looks similiar…
There is vacation in china so I guess all our shipments are on one heap for some days before they get tracked.

I used NL post which isn’t trackable but gives shorter delivery times to my country so I can’t check if it is a singular problem

I like to track my shipments, I have the parcels app and it’s quite fun to have an overview which shipment will income next. But I also like the Christmas like surprise packages I have already forgotten about.

That’s how I do it ;-).

Still fine, still on a break. One day I’ll catch up with you folks! previous wight catchup Wink
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DavidEF wrote:
I feel like venting a little. So, here is a little rant. Feel free to not read it.

I’m tired of getting tracking numbers that don’t track anything. My Courui is marked as shipped and has a tracking number that I paid $1.99 extra to get. I try to track it and it says nothing found. It seems to be the natural state of the world now that tracking numbers are not updated properly or something. I bought an Olight i3s on eBay on the 10th of September. It had a tracking number assigned to it within a couple days. But, not until yesterday did it show any activity at all (Processed through sort facility). Do people not realize that the reason we want tracking numbers is so that we can actually track something? It’s really worse than not having a number at all, because it creates an expectation. Especially, in this case (the Courui), when I paid extra for the privilege of having tracking available.

Tracking shipments has been done for decades, at least by Fed-Ex and UPS. The technology, the processes, everything has been worked out. If they can do it, by now anybody should be able to. There is no reason why a shipping system can’t get tracking right. As for the seller, they are perpetrating fraud when they give a tracking number that is no good. Perhaps they are generating a label, which provides a tracking number, but holding the package and not shipping it. In that case, keep your worthless tracking number until it is worth something – after you’ve actually shipped my items! Until there is something to track, you aren’t doing me any favor by providing a tracking number to me.

Just to be sure, let me clarify something. I’m not ranting about long delivery times. I know that is just the way it is sometimes. I’ve learned to expect long shipping times and be pleasantly surprised when the shipping time isn’t very long. I just can’t understand why “tracking” isn’t consistently tracking anything so many times. It would seem to be so easy to get it right.

In my experience with tracking numbers I received, regardless of postal service/vendor used (China free shipping), the tracking numbers usually goes active other than “not found” at about 7 to 10 or 12 working days. I’m happy if it goes active after 5 days.

What I don’t know is if your parcel shipped Sept. 29th was able to ‘escape’ the Oct. 1 to 7 China Holidays.

Btw, I almost always use this link to track: http://www.17track.net/en/result/post.shtml

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In my experience with tracking numbers I received, regardless of postal service/vendor used (China free shipping), the tracking numbers usually goes active other than “not found” at about 7 to 10 or 12 working days. I’m happy if it goes active after 5 days.

What I don’t know is if your parcel shipped Sept. 29th was able to ‘escape’ the Oct. 1 to 7 China Holidays.

Btw, I almost always use this link to track: http://www.17track.net/en/result/post.shtml


Thanks, tatasal. That has been my experience, too. That’s the part I don’t like. I guess I’d be happier if they didn’t give me a tracking number at all until it goes active “at about 7 to 10 or 12 working days”. But, then I’d still be worried about whether they were ever going to ship it or not. :~

I’m hoping my shipment made it out before the holiday, but since I have a useless tracking number, I can’t know whether it’s moving or not. It would be better if they would assign the tracking number only when they are ready to scan and make it active. That would require that they change the way people are able to print labels at their home or business. The tracking number would have to be assigned only after the shipper had the package in their possession. They’re not going to do that. It’s much easier to generate a tracking number when the label is printed and just make it active at the shipper’s convenience. Especially, when you consider a business with the shipper coming to pick up multiple packages. The label is applied, the tracking number is there, and it can be scanned as received by the shipper before being put on the truck. But, giving away inactive tracking numbers makes lots of bad things possible.

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tatasal wrote:
In my experience with tracking numbers I received, regardless of postal service/vendor used (China free shipping), the tracking numbers usually goes active other than “not found” at about 7 to 10 or 12 working days. I’m happy if it goes active after 5 days.

What I don’t know is if your parcel shipped Sept. 29th was able to ‘escape’ the Oct. 1 to 7 China Holidays.

Btw, I almost always use this link to track: http://www.17track.net/en/result/post.shtml


Thanks, tatasal. That has been my experience, too. That’s the part I don’t like. I guess I’d be happier if they didn’t give me a tracking number at all until it goes active “at about 7 to 10 or 12 working days”. But, then I’d still be worried about whether they were ever going to ship it or not. :~

I’m hoping my shipment made it out before the holiday, but since I have a useless tracking number, I can’t know whether it’s moving or not. It would be better if they would assign the tracking number only when they are ready to scan and make it active. That would require that they change the way people are able to print labels at their home or business. The tracking number would have to be assigned only after the shipper had the package in their possession. They’re not going to do that. It’s much easier to generate a tracking number when the label is printed and just make it active at the shipper’s convenience. Especially, when you consider a business with the shipper coming to pick up multiple packages. The label is applied, the tracking number is there, and it can be scanned as received by the shipper before being put on the truck. But, giving away inactive tracking numbers makes lots of bad things possible.

Haha, this is the part that I don’t like either…but as I said, that has been my experience with shippers/tracking numbers that until now I really don’t have an idea how free-shipping, with or w/o tracking, China post works. (but at least parcels with tracking will give you an idea if you are already losing your parcel, haha). All the vendors that I have dealt with before can’t fully-explain how it’s done (as compared perhaps to USPS, etc.) That’s why we always read posts of surprisingly fast shipping AND snail-paced parcels, or something in between, even from the same postal service.

Talk about the consistency of being inconsistent!

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Just got my first Courui in today, ordered from KD before I found out about the GearBest deal. Been going through the threads, and can't find any stock output #'s on it, even throw -- weird. So, this is what I got:

On 3 fresh LG HE2's:  2.6A tail (one cell), lumens: 734 @start, 734 @30 secs, throw: 75 kcd (taken at 5 m)

I'm quite impressed by this light stock - not what was implied in the threads. Maybe they changed things? I didn't do anything but apply Nyogel on the threads, and broke the o-ring at the head joint. Plus the e-switch stock driver isn't that bad either - with 2 simple hi-lo modes, and strobe available via long hold. Mine came with a big aluminum 25.8 mm MCPCB that fills the recessed shelf. I would not call the LED centering piece as overly high at 1.80 mm. Maybe they changed it to a lower profile one?

Also amazed of not one little droppage in output in the first 30 secs. There is some intermittent flicker, seen in the lightbox and during throw tests, plus noticed it testing. Not sure of the contact of cells to the driver or what. I'll probably first try dome wire upgrades and simple resistor mod first - maybe a big 31.5mm MaxToch MCPCB...

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Thanks for the update, Tom E.

Hoping to see more of your posts here in this thread.

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Oh well - just took out the shelf, starting to size up options and looking at using a MaxToch XM 31.5 mm MCPCB, and wouldn't you know -- the MaxToch is not DTP! I bought qty 3 from BangGood a few weeks back when they first listed them. I ordered a few 26's too and they all tested out to be DTP, but all 3 of the XM 31.5's tested not to be DTP. I just do a simple continuity test between the pad and the bottom.

Dang this hurts! They clearly advertise it as DTP...

Anyway, measuring it up against the Courui reflector, the reflector still overlaps about half the + and - pads. That is one huge reflector bottom...

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That’s strange. The SN6× 2X reportedly has 32mm DTP MCPCB and it has been proven by a few here, however when you bought it separately it isn’t?! Does it mean the one they use in their 2X and the one they sell separately to you are different?

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Oh well – just took out the shelf, starting to size up options and looking at using a MaxToch XM 31.5 mm MCPCB, and wouldn’t you know — the MaxToch is not DTP! I bought qty 3 from BangGood a few weeks back when they first listed them. I ordered a few 26’s too and they all tested out to be DTP, but all 3 of the XM 31.5’s tested not to be DTP. I just do a simple continuity test between the pad and the bottom.

Dang this hurts! They clearly advertise it as DTP

Anyway, measuring it up against the Courui reflector, the reflector still overlaps about half the + and – pads. That is one huge reflector bottom…

That’s a bummer about the pads – I just ordered some of them a few days ago Sad

You should still be able to ‘ghetto’ DTP them with a bit of elbow grease….

The Noctigon 32mm boards are really good quality, I will probably stick with them in the future.

My Courui, also from KD, was the same as you described, with the larger mcpcb, & good centering ring. It will be interesting to see what’s inside the one’s from GB when they start arriving.

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Just got a return message from Terry at MaxToch:

Dear Tom
I am Terry, Amanda's colleague. She is on her pregnancy holiday.
I have checked with our engineer. Both 31.5 and 26 MCPCB are DTP @ 100 percent.  But their manufacturing process is different. 26 size is made by CNC. 31.5 size is made by Metal mold, which processing precision is higher. 
Thanks for your Enthusiastic feedback.
MAXTOCH Terry.

The manufacturing process should not impact it's DTP property - electrical continuity. Richard (RMM) has confirmed this and updated his product listing accordingly. Not aware it's been proven by a few here on BLF -- any idea where?

My response to Terry:

Hi Terry,
 DTP means there must be electrical continuity between the center pad and the lower copper portion of the board. The 31.5mm versions do not have electrical continuity, so, can you please explain what in the design what non-conductive material is in-between the pad and the base of the MCPCB that is blocking the electrical path?
Since obviously my very simple test seems to directly conflict with your "100%" statement, can your engineers provide the design details of this MCPCB, similar to how SinkPAD does? Just look at the detailed design data SinkPAD provides here:  http://sinkpad.com/sinkpad-presentation.php. It's very obvious their design is 100% DTP. Every SinkPAD and every Noctigon I've tested has electrical continuity between the center pad and the MCPCB copper base.
Please explain. I've notified the dealers of these MCPCB's that I am aware of, of this issue and one has confirmed my findings already.
Thanks,
Tom E

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DTP means there must be electrical continuity between the center pad and the lower copper portion of the board.

Not to split hairs or play with semantics, but this statement is technically false. In the case of a copper mcpcb, of course a DTP should always have electrical continuity, because the metal conducts electricity. But, technically, DTP stands for “direct thermal path” not “direct electrical path”. When you’re talking to people of another language, you need to be careful how you say things, especially if what you say may give them a reason to argue with you and delay your problem resolution.

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Tom E wrote:

Just got my first Courui in today, ordered from KD before I found out about the GearBest deal. Been going through the threads, and can’t find any stock output #‘s on it, even throw — weird. So, this is what I got:

On 3 fresh LG HE2’s:  2.6A tail (one cell), lumens: 734 start, 734 30 secs, throw: 75 kcd (taken at 5 m)

I’m quite impressed by this light stock – not what was implied in the threads. Maybe they changed things? I didn’t do anything but apply Nyogel on the threads, and broke the o-ring at the head joint. Plus the e-switch stock driver isn’t that bad either – with 2 simple hi-lo modes, and strobe available via long hold. Mine came with a big aluminum 25.8 mm MCPCB that fills the recessed shelf. I would not call the LED centering piece as overly high at 1.80 mm. Maybe they changed it to a lower profile one?

Also amazed of not one little droppage in output in the first 30 secs. There is some intermittent flicker, seen in the lightbox and during throw tests, plus noticed it testing. Not sure of the contact of cells to the driver or what. I’ll probably first try dome wire upgrades and simple resistor mod first – maybe a big 31.5mm MaxToch MCPCB

Those are pretty good numbers for stock if you ask me – it sounds like the led centering ring has been updated perhaps?

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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DTP means there must be electrical continuity between the center pad and the lower copper portion of the board.
Not to split hairs or play with semantics, but this statement is technically false. In the case of a copper mcpcb, of course a DTP should always have electrical continuity, because the metal conducts electricity. But, technically, DTP stands for "direct thermal path" not "direct electrical path". When you're talking to people of another language, you need to be careful how you say things, especially if what you say may give them a reason to argue with you and delay your problem resolution.

Well, I'm asking them for design evidence of the DTP property. Agree - not totally true what I stated, should have worded it differently. Suppose there is some material out ther thermally conductive and not electrically conductive, and they think they can get away with calling it DTP -- who knows... Of course DTP could mean 10 material junctions the thermal path goes thru, including Fujik, and still call it DTP - who knows.

This is just plain scary - suppose we all made a big mistake assuming a MCPCB board that is called DTP is as good as a SinkPAD or Noctigon.

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at least my 26mm XML and MTG boards are definitely DTP.. sorry to hear about the 32mm

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I've spent over $30 on MaxToch MCPCB's already - now I'm doubting the 26's are of the same quality of SinkPAD's and Noctigons. Could be 99% of the center pad is sitting on a dielectric layer, while the edges touch the copper base - who knows. There's no design info, no impartial reviews - nothing, no details. I for one, just assumed, specially knowing MaxToch.

I just looked closely, comparing the 26 and the 31.5, and it does appear the 31.5's center pad is slightly raised.

Edit/Update: Ooops! I screwed up!! There's a thin removable film over the 31.5's, not present on the 26's. Once removed, it checks out for DTP. Ok, phew, much better... This also explains why they were fine in pre-built flashlights.

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Ooops! I screwed up!! There’s a thin removable film over the 31.5’s, not present on the 26’s. Once removed, it checks out for DTP. Ok, phew, much better… This also explains why they were fine in pre-built flashlights.

haha that’s a good one. I was about to dremmel my one in half to see what was in the middle!

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At least I'm not the only one embarassed not to notice the thin film - you and Richard Smile.

 There's no freak'n way I would have seen this, until hopefully trying to use it. Can't believe I didn't buzz out the +/- pads - actually I know I buzzed them out last night, but must have been on a 26mm board, or, I pressed the pointy probes harder and they poked through the film - dunno... I showed both boards to an engineer here at work, see if he visually could notice a difference and he spotted the covered holes. The LED wire cutouts are not filmed over, just the two small screw holes.

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good to hear Tom E! glad it was just your mistake Wink

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I bought my Courui from KD in around January or February. It came with 16mm aluminium star.

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Those are pretty good numbers for stock if you ask me - it sounds like the led centering ring has been updated perhaps?

I'm thinking something changed. Looks like they upgraded the 16mm MCPCB to a big one, and probably changed the centering piece, or maybe a change in the reflector. 548 meters (75 kcd) ain't bad at all, plus great runtime at 2.6A on 3 cells, all out of the box. Just not certain bout the flickering - can't find anything obvious, but maybe it will go away after I finish the 1st round mods.

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Not bad? That’s pretty darn good, 75k stock! Literally you can get near 150k thrower by simply soaking your emitter.

For a sub $30 light this is quite unbeatable so far in $/throw.

EDIT: No gray yet? Smile

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Those are pretty good numbers for stock if you ask me – it sounds like the led centering ring has been updated perhaps?

I’m thinking something changed. Looks like they upgraded the 16mm MCPCB to a big one, and probably changed the centering piece, or maybe a change in the reflector. 548 meters (75 kcd) ain’t bad at all, plus great runtime at 2.6A on 3 cells, all out of the box. Just not certain bout the flickering – can’t find anything obvious, but maybe it will go away after I finish the 1st round mods.

loose driver connection?

I think I am going to shunt the resistor on mine, bigger wires, UCLp, copper braid springs… and see where that gets me… if I fry something or break something I can always grab a custom driver (which will probably end up being round 2 of modding for this light haha)

Would you mind keeping the wrong flashlight?
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Has anyone’s tracking numbers started working yet? Neither of my 2 have and I got them last weekend.

If my tracking never works I want my $4 back.

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Has anyone’s tracking numbers started working yet? Neither of my 2 have and I got them last weekend.

If my tracking never works I want my $4 back.

I guess I’ll wait until after the holiday wraps up and we see if anybody’s tracking number starts working right. I don’t want to have to ask for a $1.99 refund and bother with them wanting to give me store credit.

Still fine, still on a break. One day I’ll catch up with you folks! previous wight catchup Wink
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42 orders so far.

Status on the Gray version of this light will probably be known tomorrow and an update will be made as the manufacturer is still on holiday today.

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Mine is not sent from the 29/9 that is purchased
It has no tracking number

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42 orders so far.

I bet everybody is waiting for the grey version.
So do I Silly

Is there an easy way to mod this light with an MT-G2?

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