Convoy L2...Guess who's back???

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The bigger and fatter the light, the more important a side switch becomes. Larger lights are difficult to shift in one hand from a “pointing” grip to a “mode selection” grip. So the side switch is a game changer for sure.
That said, the kill switch in the tail ensures safe travel, long term emergency storage with no drain, and a lock-out ability for various reasons.

I cry out for a side switch too. :_(

The Convoy L4 is a favorite due to it’s combination of tail clicky and side e-switch. Carry on with that lineage and be popular or lose out to the other guys. Wink

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How do I get 15% discount for the host option? Do I need to send message to Simone?

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I don’t like tailcap clicky + e-side switch on larger lights. It’s good on single cells like the L4, but on large flashlights I much prefer just a side switch. Anodized tailcap threads for lockout.

Though if it comes down to having both or just the tailcap clicky I would definitely rather have both.

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Well, I'm all bout side switch's for sure now. I got the lock-out feature built in the 85 firmware now, so it's a lot more secure (I'm using this lock-out feature every day now). For DIY modding pleasures, it's sooooo much better to have a switch mounted in the housing with just 2 wires hanging out into the pill, like a SRK. Much better driver options this way. If Simon had a host with both side switch and tail switch, best of both worlds, to name a few: Yezl Y3, Eagle Eye X6R, UranusFire 818, Convoy L4 (Simon's), Warsun X60 and their re-branded equals, etc.

 Also (I think) that type of housing mounted switch should hold up much better. I've had a couple of driver mounted switch's fail on me - they were repairable, but still... They have to take a lot of force, and for the types where just 2 soldered joints are holding it down, besides two thru hole plastic pins, it shouldn't last long by design. There are, of course, better designs and poorer designs. The SolarStorm SC0n series of lights have a tab on top of the switch that extends into a slot in the pill top, so you have a much better secure mount that can take more force.

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NikolaS wrote:
How do I get 15% discount for the host option? Do I need to send message to Simone?

What I did was submit the order with a message, asking for the discount. Then Simon updates the price of that order.. Then you pay. On Ali, the order can be made, then you can pay for it at a later time.

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Tom E wrote:

NikolaS wrote:
How do I get 15% discount for the host option? Do I need to send message to Simone?

What I did was submit the order with a message, asking for the discount. Then Simon updates the price of that order.. Then you pay. On Ali, the order can be made, then you can pay for it at a later time.

Thanks cant wait to put one spare LD-2 that I have left, with some nice tint XP L HI ! Have anyone tryed the V2 3C from intl-outdoor ?

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This is pretty much the response I expected to hear about the decision to cancel the side switch. Halo, buddy if it makes you feel better you are the first person I was sad for when Simon told me that. :_( You’ve been screaming for a side switch since I said “new L2”. I don’t think there is any need for a poll. For what it’s worth I just sent Simon one final message on behalf of “the little switch that should have been”. I told him that I announced the details of the new light and every comment I got about the switch removal was sadness. I made it very clear that BLF does not agree with this decision. I’m not going to beat a dead horse if he holds his ground but one last shout form “the voice of the people” can’t hurt. Big Smile I can’t say whether or not it will change his mind but I started doing this for Simon because he needed a way to speak to BLF just as much as I thought he needed to hear the voice of BLF. I put equal value on praising the good stuff as I do telling him when we don’t like something. I’ll still own the new light when it comes out but I’ll be just a little happier if this new light has a side switch. I’ll keep you all posted.

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Hi,

There are lots of lights that use 2x cells that do not have a side switch. – If the “new” Convoy L2 doesn’t have “both’ switches, then I would not be interested in buying one. – The light is just too large to work with one hand without a side switch.

I’m only being honest… – Thank you.
-Chuck

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Thanks Chuck. I appreciate your input. Beer

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Thank you!

The Beer was good;-)
-Chuck

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chuckhov wrote:
Thank you!

The Beer was good;-)
-Chuck

Big Smile Glad you enjoyed! I broke my vow and sent him another message. I forwarded your comment and a handful of others. I told him I’ll stop after this but felt he should know what his own fans are saying! I’m calling it quits for now. Good night all. Simon’s going to read all my emails tonight and wonder if he should block my email account Wink .
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J-Dub74 wrote:
chuckhov wrote:
Thank you!

The Beer was good;-)
-Chuck

Big Smile Glad you enjoyed! I broke my vow and sent him another message. I forwarded your comment and a handful of others. I told him I’ll stop after this but felt he should know what his own fans are saying! I’m calling it quits for now. Good night all. Simon’s going to read all my emails tonight and wonder if he should block my email account Wink .

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The very Last thing that Simon needs to do, is to stop talking to you!

But, I’m sure that you both know that Smile

Thanks for all that you both do for us!

Have a good night!
-Chuck

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OH BOY! |( NO extension for the L2? |( But I know why… if he did make a 2×26650 extension for the L2, who would want his “NEW VERSION”? Wink As far as the E-Switch I would like it…IF it had a push button and it also activated the light too? Take the UranusisonFire 818, it has both E-switch and push button, and you have the choice of using one or the other to activate the light and the push button locks it out too, way cool!!! Wink Or it might as well be a X6? Sad

Tthe UranusFire 818 is a diamond in the rough. With a few design changes, it would be a awesome flashlight. It just gets no love or respect around here because of its unfortunate name.

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Yeah well, getting back to the L2, with out the 2×26650 additional tube |( , I won’t be buying any more, (I like having options) Wink I have a L2 and a Host coming, I’ll get rid of the L2 and make the host the way I want. With the 2×26650 tube, I would have bought a few more, that ain’t happening now, I have enough single cells and lady lights already :Sp

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Agree… a light so heavy (and long if multi-cell) is not practical to operate via a clicky. Also, as mentioned, best of both worlds, why not? I’m all for the side switch, PLEASE! What does Simon mean by “side switch is no good for DIY. Can we get clarity on this, because then we can clearly understand why he does not like the e-switch?! So, if the DIYers want a side switch, how can it not be good for DIY Wink

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shrick wrote:
Agree… a light so heavy (and long if multi-cell) is not practical to operate via a clicky. Also, as mentioned, best of both worlds, why not? I’m all for the side switch, PLEASE! What does Simon mean by “side switch is no good for DIY. Can we get clarity on this, because then we can clearly understand why he does not like the e-switch?! So, if the DIYers want a side switch, how can it not be good for DIY Wink

Maybe something is getting lost in translation since English isn’t Simon’s first language? Maybe he’s confusing switch mounted on driver, not a driver that has wires going to a side mounted switch?

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Personally I like e-switch. If it’s mounted on the driver I will just design one to fit that light specifically, it can have any functionality I like, as long as its a good quality switch. If it’s wired to the body then even better. Ever since getting the X6R I’m hooked on e-switch lights.

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Well, many e-switch lights have the switch mounted on the driver itself (as most of you know). Maybe he means if he does that, it wouldn’t be good for a “DIY host” because the driver wouldn’t be included?

And I imagine it’s overall a more time consuming design to produce, thus being more expensive.

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Just a button with 2 wires coming out would work fine and not get in the way. The Solarforce M9 has this and it can just be wired to 2 of the attiny pins if needed, there is a thread on it somewhere. A driver mounted switch would be a bit harder to mod.

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Guess what friends… Simon heard us. I had a little heart-to-heart with him and explained what BLF was saying. He is going “back to the drawing board”. We will have our side switch. It should be a dual switch like the L4. Thanks for all the responses. It gave me just the leverage I needed to make him understand. :bigsmile: Go TEAM BLF!

He explained that the biggest reason for getting rid of the side switch was that he couldn’t find a good XHP70 driver with side switch. The LDCH manufactory said that there were some problem with the driver because the temperature was so high. It’s going to push the new design back a little but we should have our wish. Good experienced advice with this specific issue would be appreciated so feel free to either post here or PM me with suggestions. Maybe we can help Simon resolve the issue. I don’t have experience with LDCH drivers but I know some of you do. He has to work within certain parameters and unlike many of us he can’t just buy his drivers from Mountain Electronics. He does want our input it just takes a little effort sometimes to make him understand. Once he realized what the majority of us wanted he thanked us for the input and he’s working on resolving the driver issue. He truly does respect his friends at BLF a lot. This is good stuff!

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Again, I found the driver mounted switch's less reliable - they break. Of course depends on the switch design, but if the switch allows the user to directly apply force further in than the mechanical switch engages in the full down position, the driver mounted switch's usually only are attached to the board with no support on top.

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J-Dub74 wrote:
He is going “back to the drawing board”. We will have our side switch. It should be a dual switch like the L4.

I have to say, it amazing how responsive Simon is. Even though it will be more work for him considering he doesn’t currently have of a good XHP70 side switch driver and needs to find one.

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I wouldnt include the side switch on the driver board at all, a remote switch and 2 wires will be better

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Yeah, my L2 is on its way to me :D.

About the driver for that new monster. What about a FET (+1) driver from Richard? I believe there has to be some changes made to let our current FET (+1) driver work with 6V leds.

And dont forget to give Simon a big THANKS on behalf of BLF! Seriously the way he listens to us is just exceptional.

Thank you Simon!

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Well, maybe it's bout time he looks into cutting a deal with Richard. I'd love to see one of Richard's driver in there, then we can re-program it as we see fit Wink. Certainly Simon could get the drivers made over there cheaper, just like with the A6 driver being sold by BangGood now. Heck, he can use my e-switch firmware is he wants to.

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Looks like the A6 driver has been removed, just did a search

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itsonlyme wrote:
Looks like the A6 driver has been removed, just did a search

You need a direct link, here:

http://www.banggood.com/BLF-A6-A17DD-L-FET1-2_8-4_35v-74-Modes-Flashligh...

Out of stock anyways. Either it's some sort of placeholder/temp listing or someone came along and cleaned them out.

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Thats the same page I went on. 404 page not found.

Strange, it works on desktop mode, not on mobile mode

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Whenever an owner has time, I’d love to see pictures of the inside of the head and driver pocket, and also a comparison lineup with a C8 and an X3 or Couri or something.

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Mine was shipped out yesterday – but I have all of the demanded comparsion-lights Wink

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