Andúril 2 coming to Sofirn - The general Sofirn development thread

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SC31 price is too low. It was supposed to sell well with the price but fails.

will change to SC31A with SST20 4000K 95CRI and SC31B with SST20 6500K standard CRI

Price will be higher to make profits. Crying

I’m not happy about higher price but I’m interested in SC31A anyway.
Will design be changed? Is there a plan to add moonlight mode? ( preferably hopefully 3 lm Wink )
Is running time on lowest mode already know (huge selling point)?

Hi Barry, any news about SC31A?

One more thing:

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Is there any plan to release soon any light with USB charging and E21A emitter(s)?

My suggestion: altered SC31 (as SE21A Wink ) with first low starting at 3 lm


Fitting an E21A in a commercial flashlight requires some skilful designing: you can not use a centering piece because the led is small, shallow and fragile, the force of the reflector via the centerpiece easily kills the led. And still the small E21A requires precise centering, even in a reflector as small as in the SC31. I have not seen a commercial solution for that yet.

Folomov appears to have done it… If only they’d stop inventing goofy battery types and use normal cells.

This is the EDC C2. The one that takes that stupid little 14300 battery.

Is Sofirn interested in producing and selling such a flashlight?

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rost333 wrote:
Barry0892 wrote:
SC31 price is too low. It was supposed to sell well with the price but fails.

will change to SC31A with SST20 4000K 95CRI and SC31B with SST20 6500K standard CRI

Price will be higher to make profits. Crying

Hi Barry, any news about SC31A?

I thought the SC31 was the bargain of a lifetime at the 17bux it was going for. Perfect light for the muggle with everything you’d need (eg, charging).

My only grex would be the “breathing” light (which I just kept turned off anyway, so no big deal), as I prefer the Nitecore style “beacon” (short blink every few seconds).

That SST20 looks really good, though.

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Lux-Perpetua wrote:
Apart from the SP40 I just read that Sofirn will be releasing the SP10S, an updated SP10 V2.0 (AA/14500 EDC with e-switch) that comes with LH351D 5.000K 90CRI instead of XP-G2, see here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1492565#comment-1492565

Anyone got an SP10S yet? Interested to know if it always starts on Eco or Low on NiHM.

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@Barry: Any news about below or SC31A?

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AT35 is not confirmed yet, sofirn is not satisfied with the prototype, maybe will redesign.


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Source: https://www.facebook.com/sofirn.cn/posts/2079638482335875


I just learned it comes with following emitters:
Samsung LH351D 5.000K 90CRI
Cree XP-E2 red 620nm (XPEBRD-L1-R20 P3)
LG LEUVA33U70UL00 395nm UV-LED
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Anyone got an SP10S yet? Interested to know if it always starts on Eco or Low on NiHM.

Always on Low.
However there is something unexpected: Eco can only be reached after going through Low-Medium-High. There is no shortcut to Eco from Off Facepalm

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Surprise! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TKJH528/ 

Reminds me of something CRX did inside of a Carclo Triple-TIR (had to ream one optic for a tiny reflector as the polycarbonate blocks UV)
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rost333 wrote:
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Anyone got an SP10S yet? Interested to know if it always starts on Eco or Low on NiHM.

Always on Low.
However there is something unexpected: Eco can only be reached after going through Low-Medium-High. There is no shortcut to Eco from Off Facepalm

Ah that’s a shame, not even if you press and hold the button from off? Really needs a shortcut to Eco imo. The only thing I don’t like about my SP10B is that it effectively doesn’t have a Low, it just goes straight from Moon-Medium.

Edit: I guess the work around would be to always run it with 14500 and switch to Eco before turning off: “It memorizes the last brightness level used in the general modes when it is powered by 14500 battery”. This would make the other modes too bright for me though.

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hodor wrote:

Anyone got an SP10S yet?…
Ah that’s a shame, not even if you press and hold the button from off? Really needs a shortcut to Eco imo.

I’m disappointed as well. Press and hold the button from off (to get to Eco) unfortunately is not working Sad

So… there is a reason to release SP10S V2 and to add this shortcut to Eco.

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Edit: I guess the work around would be to always run it with 14500 and switch to Eco before turning off: “It memorizes the last brightness level used in the general modes when it is powered by 14500 battery”. This would make the other modes too bright for me though.

Yes, it can be done this way:

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The WK30 has aroused quite some interest both here and on TLF. I hope I can convince Mark to distribute this light not only to the US market but worldwide.

I will get in touch with him and see if there's a chance for a global groupbuy (BLF and TLF at least). Smile

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I’d love to get one of those WK30s with 3 LH351Ds and Anudril. Basically a 26650 SP36 BLF edition in triple instead of quad.

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Sofirn does not have any magnetic tail caps. I realize they have a large number of lights that do not have the same diameter so one tail cap would not fit all but the Sp10, Sp32 and Sp40 seem to be popular and would just be two tail caps to cover the three lights. Other manufactures of angle lights have magnetic tail cap options that seem to be popular, so a magnet option for the (hopefully version 2 with firefly mode) of the SP40 should get some attention.

I have looked at gluing a magnet to my Sp10 but it is such s nice looking light I do not want to ruin the clean factory look.

Edit: When I think about it, a clicky tail cap option might be nice also.

A magnetic tail cap for a SP40? That would be sweet. So would a better clip.

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The SP40 should have enough room to glue a big magnet at the inside of the cap.

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I wanted to put a magnet there but I can’t figure out how to take out the spring from the tailcap. Doesn’t seem it’s screwed into the cap like the other flashlights.

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engineers told someday thermal may won’t work after years

Perhaps somewhere in the supply chain someone did QA/QC and tested the devices and worked out a rather low MTBF?

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I wanted to put a magnet there but I can't figure out how to take out the spring from the tailcap. Doesn't seem it's screwed into the cap like the other flashlights.

You might consider making an array around the spring and glue them down. Place within the inner diameter of the body tube. Since the light has enough space, 5 mm wiggle room, for a 21700, you may stick to xx650 batteries. 

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I’d love to see an SP33 with a 5000K XHP50.2 (preferably 80 cri) and USB C charging.

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Th558 wrote:
I’d love to see an SP33 with a 5000K XHP50.2 (preferably 80 cri) and USB C charging.

We have long been asking Sofirn to give the buyer the choice of CCT (4000K, 5000K)XHP50.2 for SP33. But Sofirn doesn’t. As if competitive advantages are not important to Sofirn.

Sorry for my poor english.

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As if competitive advantages are not important to Sofirn.

What does this mean?

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JasonWW wrote:
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As if competitive advantages are not important to Sofirn.

What does this mean?

For starters, you need to quote the whole quote to make any sense of it...

"We have long been asking Sofirn to give the buyer the choice of CCT (4000K, 5000K)XHP50.2 for SP33. But Sofirn doesn’t. As if competitive advantages are not important to Sofirn."

It means that Sofirn would have a competitive advantage if they offered the choice of CCT (4000K, 5000K)XHP50.2 for SP33.

Because Sofirn doesn't, having a competitive advantage is not important for Sofirn.

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Di_Joker wrote:

We have long been asking Sofirn to give the buyer the choice of CCT (4000K, 5000K)XHP50.2 for SP33. But Sofirn doesn’t. As if competitive advantages are not important to Sofirn.

They already have a competitive advantage (an advantage over their fellow flashlight companies).

You are familiar with Sofirn, right? You know they offer lots of models, lots of parts for those models, are high quality, have the best prices and take feedback from their customers.

Sorry, but your sounding a bit spoiled just because they haven’t done what you suggested.

Remember that they are still a company that needs to make a profit. It may not be profitable for them to buy large quantities (a reel) of the 50.2. Maybe if they had more models that used the 50.2 it would make financial sense for them to do it.

For you to actually think “having a competitive advantage is not important for Sofirn.” I find quite laughable.

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Ah yes, apologies. It was Di_Joker saying this and not you. I got confused since you answered my question to him. I edited my response.

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One of the most common wishes for Sofirn is precisely the choice of CCT. It seems to me that it is advisable for the manufacturer to pay attention to this. Sofirn is not the only one in this price category and competitors offer the choice of CCT.
As a consumer, I express my point of view. You may not agree, but do not blame me for her.

Sorry for my poor english.

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Personally I dont care for Sofirn offering multiple emitter options because usually the tint and CRI sucks anyways unless they use Cree A or D tint bins. My wish is for Sofirn to stop using glue and design their flashlights to be as modding friendly as possible. I only buy their flashlights to swap the emitters because I like their quality and good UI.

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It seems Sofirn (or at least its members on BLF) has become quite busy, silent, ...? I reached out to Cissy and Barry via PM - no replies so far, same as with the SP10S BLF Andúril driver where some feedback from Sofirn might be worthwhile. I also contacted Mark Lee (Wurkkos) in order to share some ideas - no answer yet. I'm not aware of any holidays/festivals ongoing in China but maybe someone has got some more information about what's going on?

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Wonder if there’s been a harder crackdown on the internet with the current situation in Hong Kong?

Hope they’re all well though.

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Well, that might explain the current silence from Shenzhen/Guangzhou but some people of their sales/marketing work in Changsha. Anyway, let's hope everything's alright and that this trade war will soon end.

Update: Strange coincidence but just when I posted here I was contacted by Sofirn. It seems everything's alright and they are just busy with their production schedule.

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While I'm glad Sofirn has worked with the community on various products, I've still been disappointed more than once. I understand that they probably work "by the reel", so it's probably easiest for them to buy the same reel and not worry about buying another color and possibly not justifying that reel purchase. 

However, I've got a list:

  • SP70 BLF Edition seems dead.
    • They failed on the edition they did make, with a sub-standard but I guess passable UI, but much worse, they stayed with steel springs
    • The reflector was also just kind of never up to par on that light. They couldn't make a good SMO at all!
  • Cool white "Nitecore" tints
  • Why on earth do they not offer the C8F with XPL-Hi? It seems the most natural to me

Well, I'll admit, I haven't designed or manufactured a flashlight. So there could be a lot I don't understand. I will say Sofirn is definitely doing some things right with machining quality and pricing.

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I don’t know if the SP70 sold well enough, but it certainly wasn’t a “fail” by any means. Maybe they still plan a BLF edition? IDK. BLF edition is waiting on Anduril.

They do seem to be working on their own smaller version based on the Thorfire S70. It’s called the Sofirn TK70.

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Scallywag wrote:
Why on earth do they not offer the C8F with XPL-Hi? It seems the most natural to me

Just a guess, because the individual reflector area is so small (comparable to a tubelight vs an actual C8-class reflector), it wouldn’t pay for a “throwier” LED, and they’d rather just stick to the HD version as a light cannon.

Me personally, I like the C8Fs as-is. All the versions I got, from gen-1 with XP-Gs through the 21700 version.

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