[Finished] 5. Batch "TA" Bistro HD OTSM/Narsil drivers, 15-47.5mm size fit H03, MF01, MT03, Q8 1S or 2S, Clicky or E-switch

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so have installed my TA driver into my L6 and got my hands on some liitokala 50a 26650s I did a tailcap measurement and it came up at just under 11amps.

can anyone tell me what my lumen output would be approx.?

think my next purchase will be a LUX meter

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with N4 bin you should get about 7200 cold start and 6400 LED Lumens @30s
11-12A is about the sweet spot after that the lumens gain to 14A is very low

N2 bin tested

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DoNkEyConN wrote:
so have installed my TA driver into my L6 and got my hands on some liitokala 50a 26650s I did a tailcap measurement and it came up at just under 11amps.

can anyone tell me what my lumen output would be approx.?

think my next purchase will be a LUX meter


I assume your using the the xhp70?

Keep in mind that measuring lumens requires a special setup to get any type of consistent measurement. With just a lux meter, you can do simple ceiling bounces to measure increases and decreases in output.

I’ve got a lux meter, but no integrating sphere. It’s easier to just measure the amp draw and consult a chart to see about how many lumens it’s putting out.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

Maukka Calibration Lights for DIY Lumen Measuring Devices

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Lexel wrote:
with N4 bin you should get about 7200 cold start and 6400 LED Lumens @30s
11-12A is about the sweet spot after that the lumens gain to 14A is very low

N2 bin tested

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Lexel, where did this chart come from?

All the xhp70 test charts I’ve seen shows about 5500 lumen at 12 amps.

Edit: That was with N2 bin. Are the current L6’s coming with N4 bins?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

Maukka Calibration Lights for DIY Lumen Measuring Devices

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JasonWW wrote:
Lexel wrote:
with N4 bin you should get about 7200 cold start and 6400 LED Lumens @30s
11-12A is about the sweet spot after that the lumens gain to 14A is very low

N2 bin tested

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Lexel, where did this chart come from?

All the xhp70 test charts I’ve seen shows about 5500 lumen at 12 amps.

Edit: That was with N2 bin. Are the current L6’s coming with N4 bins?

http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/threads/led-test-cree-xlamp-xhp70-n2-%...
This is a cold Lumens test with T solder point 25°C djozz and others do tests while the LED is likely hotter
djozz has as well N2 bin and has 3750 Lumens at 5A, while this chart has 3900 Lumens at 5A

I would also say that this homemade Lumen readings always can be +/-10% off

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JasonWW wrote:
DoNkEyConN wrote:
so have installed my TA driver into my L6 and got my hands on some liitokala 50a 26650s I did a tailcap measurement and it came up at just under 11amps.

can anyone tell me what my lumen output would be approx.?

think my next purchase will be a LUX meter


I assume your using the the xhp70?

Keep in mind that measuring lumens requires a special setup to get any type of consistent measurement. With just a lux meter, you can do simple ceiling bounces to measure increases and decreases in output.

I’ve got a lux meter, but no integrating sphere. It’s easier to just measure the amp draw and consult a chart to see about how many lumens it’s putting out.

yes just the XHP70 at the mo but I do have an XHP70.2 on its way from Kaidomain.com

i was considering following one of Adventuresportsflashlights videos on how to create a lumen Tube. i know it wont be super accurate but will be able to give me an idea on what gains im making while modding.

Lexel do you have a similar chart for the XHP70.2?

EDIT : found it on the website you linked Lexel http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/threads/led-test-english-cree-xlamp-xh...

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Lexel, have you ever messed with a Crelant CH10 head mounted light? It has a 22mm driver with the switch on the battery side so there are 2 holes for the E switch wires to go through.

Do you think you could make a narsil driver for this light?

I need to unsolder the emitter to see the component side of the driver, but haven’t done that yet.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware (old), lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well. 

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70.2, 26350 cells (4,100 lumen!), Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! 

9 NarsilM user videos for BLF Q8, GT, GT Mini and ROT66

Texas_Ace BLF Calibrated Lumen tube

Maukka Calibration Lights for DIY Lumen Measuring Devices

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I am sure I can make a Narsil driver for it,
I can use a small drill for the wires on spots where the driver does not get damaged

the 22mm driver has 1.1mm blank ground ring to the edge around the driver,
maybe max 1.5mm possible then very close to parts and pads

if this is not enough I could put the new 17mm design on a 22mm board

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F***!!! I think I may have just destroyed my Driver. AngryAngryAngry

today I received an SMO reflector for my L6 when I put it in it had a horrible look to the beam. I was trying to focus it and I think it touched the terminals on the Led star. I now have no modes. if I use the rear switch it comes on but I have no mode selection with the side switch.

do i need a new driver?

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A dead short with unprotected batteries likely killed the FET, easy to repair if you send me the driver, I had one driver before that got killed that way

Removing the FET and the light is at least useable with AMCs in the low and middle modes

If the FET is conductive when you use a DMM it needs to be replaced, not sure if you can do a reflow of it on your own if I send you one

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I still need 1 driver 30mm NarsilM 1S PO=NO SD=3V 50°C, lighted sideswitch (9k if possible) , with tracking shipment , thanks.

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I still need 1 driver 30mm NarsilM 1S PO=NO SD=3V 50°C, lighted sideswitch (9k if possible) , with tracking shipment , thanks.

Ok I put you in my list this week I should receive 6 more 30mm boards the 3 here are 2S build

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Are you shipping with NarsilM 1.2 yet? Thinking of getting a driver for my L6 soon.

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you can add a 1S 17mm NarsilM 60°C, SD=2.8V, PO=(NO) indicator led but no resistor, no spring, driver to my order Big Smile

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Tjhosan wrote:
you can add a 1S 17mm NarsilM 60°C, SD=2.8V, PO=(NO) indicator led but no resistor, no spring, driver to my order Big Smile

Ok I got here one Narsil 17mm build but soldered already ba accident spring and cables to it, but got an error when I tried flasing Bistro OTSM Facepalm

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Any lead time on the 21mm drivers?

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Oshpark shipped them friday 10 days ago, should be here any day

The other manufactory with 230 single boards on 20 10×10cm PCBs are still not even produced

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I’m not sure if you got my pm, but is there a 17mm driver with Narsil left for sale?

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I’m not sure if you got my pm, but is there a 17mm driver with Narsil left for sale?

Hi,

I got ordered a very big amount of boards from Seeed, when they arrive I can make more 17mm drivers, last week the last 17mm sized got already taken

I hope they will deliver soon

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Hi Lexel how much is it for MF01?

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last order from Oshpark arrived today
The boards from Seed are in local post office as I had not the import tax. amount fitting in my wallet

MF01 driver Oshpark batch is
when I sold the last 4 of the Oshpark ones the Seeed boards will be 2.5$ less

NarsilM Attiny85
13$ flashed standard Narsil settings 60°C uncalibrated, SD=2.8V, PO=(2B),
14.5$ with temp+LVP calibration and max temperature preset,

per loose bronze spring add 0.3$

silicone cable can be presoldered for 0.12-0.2$ per inch

47.5mm MF01 MT03 Q8 +4,85$

LDO 1.2$ 21mm and bigger only

add 1$ for SRK Size with more than 8 AMC7135 Bank with all 16 AMCs

2$ envelope priority air mail shipping worldwide
adds 3$ for optional tracking + insurance up to 25€

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Did reflow stuff

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Lexel wrote:
Did reflow stuff

Damn, they are pretty Cool But they’ll be even prettier inside my lights Big Smile
Nice work Lexel, thanks for doing that and keep it up !! Thumbs Up

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14.5$ with temp+LVP calibration and max temperature preset,
4,85$ 47.5mm MF01 MT03 Q8 +4,85$
1.2$ LDO 1.2$ 21mm and bigger only
1$ for SRK Size with more than 8 AMC7135 Bank with all 16 AMCs
2$ envelope priority air mail shipping worldwideadds
3$ for optional tracking + insurance up to 25€

Total $26.55?

is that correct?

Lexel wrote:

MF01 driver Oshpark batch is
when I sold the last 4 of the Oshpark ones the Seeed boards will be 2.5$ less

NarsilM Attiny85
13$ flashed standard Narsil settings 60°C uncalibrated, SD=2.8V, PO=(2B),
14.5$ with temp+LVP calibration and max temperature preset,

per loose bronze spring add 0.3$

silicone cable can be presoldered for 0.12-0.2$ per inch

47.5mm MF01 MT03 Q8 +4,85$

LDO 1.2$ 21mm and bigger only

add 1$ for SRK Size with more than 8 AMC7135 Bank with all 16 AMCs

2$ envelope priority air mail shipping worldwide
adds 3$ for optional tracking + insurance up to 25€

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This is correct

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there was a mishap from DHL Express on Thursday as the driver did not schedule new delivery, when I had not the import tax to give him, as they seem not to have any to exchange larger bills
so I had to phone the hotline and its delivered again on monday

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4 envelopes shipped today
list up to date

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So big Seeed order arrived

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Was busy with new stuff



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