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I’m sorry. It was a mistake. I keep all three.
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Lux-Perpetua wrote:

funkychateau wrote:
BrianK wrote:
fneuf wrote: Should the diffuser be described more as "textured" rather than "opaque"? Lux-Perpetia wrote: I'm not a native English speaker but I guess "textured" would describe something else, like a certain pattern as in orange peel reflectors for instance. Opaque seems to be a quite common expression for a diffuse surface. Longtime user of American English here and sometimes I even manage to get it right. Big Smile Hopefully this is one of those times. Maybe better words to indicate the treatment could be "frosted" or "translucent". That type of surface is one that allows light to pass yet doesn't allow for clearly seeing through it and is done on a microscopic level. As Lux-P' wrote, texture is how something feels, mostly on a larger scale rather than a micro scale. There might be other ways of using the word, but that's the one I'm using here without using a dictionary..
“Frosted” and “translucent” both describe the characteristics better than “textured” or “opaque”. Opaque implies that it doesn’t pass light at all.

Agreed! I will incorporate the latest (and hopefully very last) changes once again and submit Sofirn a revised version tomorrow.

All objections noted and replied above will also be adressed as far it is reasonable and possible. Thank you guys for your great help.

I admire you Lux-Perpetua - you have made the LT1 manual great and on time!  Most people have no idea how difficult it is to do what you have accomplished! Thank you!

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Brett wrote:

  Hmmmm…. how many was i down for..?  Dam.. i can’t remember


  can anyone please let me know ?


  Thanks..

You can check post #1 to see how many you’re in for by searching for your user name.
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Woohoo finally

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Im interested, please put me on the list for 1

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I will add 1 more for my ..Total of 2

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Interested and in for 1

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IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

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I hope that the groupbuy can be purchased from AE too, because for example amazon.com does not ship to switzerland and amazon.de does not ship any Marketplace items to Switzerland.

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Please put me in for two more (3 total). I am currently entry 181 – thank you!

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Please add one more for me. Thanks everyone for all the hard work!

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Thank you very much. I will wait for proper code.

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sbslider wrote:
I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will be through Amazon, but subject to Sofirn’s final decision.

I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will not be exclusively through Amazon or most of the world and many on the list could not buy their LT1.
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Please add one for me.

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Update me please to 3.

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marcelangelo wrote:
(...) As a german, i'm surfing the web mostly in german. As a result, Alibaba shows me a german article description translation, which isn't bad. Its *abysmal*. Even Google Translate would be ashamed producing sth. this bad. While i'm and most people are perfectly capable reading the english manual, i've got two other concerns: - this throwing a shadow on the otherwise great LT1 for non-forum-consumers - i'm not shure if the (somehow understandable) mentioning of the andruil firmware fits GPL v3 requirements. Proper german would be sth like: (...)

 

Just to get everything right:

Are you referring to the German LT1 manual or the automatic German translation of the LT1 text on Aliexpress?

In the latter case, I will try to resolve that issue by sending Sofirn a proper German text they can use to replace the automatic German translation. But I don’t know if this works from a technical point of view as I don’t know the IT infrastructure of Aliexpress.

Anyway, I‘m sure we‘ll get this fixed, so no shadows will be casted onto this great lantern. Wink

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Wow this looks excellent! Thanks for all the hard work! Please put me down for 2 more, total of 3. I am #1074.

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I believe I am down for one, can I add a second one? First one was #2294.

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2 for me

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ToyKeeper wrote:
fneuf wrote:
1 - I'm totally ok with GPLv3. My point is really specific to the intro/title/first page. It's only I'm surprised there is no reference to this crowd-designed cradle of the LT1 right in the introduction. It's a pretty unique origin that, I think, deserves emphasis. There is a link to BLF and even a full sentence about the community, true, but at the very end.
Yes, this is a good point. It is nice to recognize the contributions of the community who made this light possible. All I was saying is that the legal requirements have been met, so any additional information is somewhat optional. Adding text to recognize the community is good though. It will depend on whether you can coordinate changes with the authors and translators quickly enough to meet the printing deadline.
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4 - My "acceleration" question is refering to this part:
Momentary mode disable: physically disconnect power (unscrew the base from the head to break the electrical connection for at least a few seconds, clicking the button will speed up the process)

I'm unsure if "clicking" here means one click, multiple frenetics laughing clicks or even click and hold?

Ah, that makes sense. To exit momentary mode, it is necessary to disconnect power and wait until the driver's residual charge has drained. If the button LED is lit up, it will drain that power in a small fraction of a second. But if the button LED was not enabled, it could take a few seconds before power is drained completely. Pressing the button causes the charge to disappear immediately. It does not matter how many times it is pressed or how long it is held. It only takes a few milliseconds. Anything after that has no effect. It is probably not necessary to press the button at all though. Power should drain fast enough either way.
  1. I'll try my best.
  2. Makes complete sense, thanks.

Lux-Perpetua wrote:

First of all, I think we have achieved to make a very profound, comprehensive yet understandable manual. I did not do most of the contentwise work, so credits go mostly to sbslider and stereodude. However, I took the liberty trying to answer to your points. Thanks for your input.

fneuf wrote:

Why no reference to the forum, like a "crowd-designed lantern" mention put near the title, along the first reference to the great Anduril?

As Toykeeper mentioned already, there are references to BLF in the manual, especially on the very last column incl. credits to the BLF LT1 team.

 

fneuf wrote:

Should the diffuser be described more as "textured" rather than "opaque"?

I'm not a native English speaker but I guess "textured" would describe something else, like a certain pattern as in orange peel reflectors for instance. Opaque seems to be a quite common expression for a diffuse surface.

 

fneuf wrote:

"70% max on ext. source" part is confusing. How the user is supposed to control/even know this figure? Shouldn't the LT1 automatically lower/control its output regarding the energy source?

This topic has been discussed within the BLT LT1 team already and we decided to keep it this way. And yes, the LT1 will run at reduced output without batteries installed but with a USB-C energy source powered.

 

fneuf wrote:

"3.1 volts or lower" => why not directly state "lower than 3.2" ?

No offense, but this is nitpicking, isn't it? Wink To be more nitpicking, lower than 3.2V is not the same as 3.1V and lower. Silly

 

Many thanks for all your replies. Not aiming to diminish everybody's work here, trying on the contrary to propose ideas because I like this community work and result.
  1. There's a great sentence at the end in the manual, period. I'm only surprised there is no reference to this crowd-designed cradle of the LT1 right in its introduction. We have here 250 pages of inputs, discussions, schemes, etc for this lantern, it's a whole pretty unique origin that, I think, deserves more emphasis. Starting right at the beginning Smile
    1. My proposal would be to have something like "CrowdDesigned on budgetlightforum.com" close to "The BLF LT1 Lantern uses Andúril Firmware" on the firstpage, or just under the LT1's pic
  2. For french speakers here, I'm going with "dépoli" which fits the purpose perfectly.
  3. The confusing part is, from my english interpretation, it looks like the user HAS to set the output to a level 70 (tops) if he powers the LT1 from USB. Do I get that right?
  4. Regarding nitpicking, hehe, it is not my intention, even if I totally understand why it could look feel so. We are editing with a size constraint, as it will be printed. Therefore, gaining a few words here and there can have great impacts. That's why I try to favorise simpler turns of sentences, being straight, and proposed you this tweak. And good mathematic point on your side. That means now ToyKeepers have to impelement hundredths of volts monitoring in Andùril innocent

 

BrianK wrote:
fneuf wrote: Should the diffuser be described more as "textured" rather than "opaque"? Lux-Perpetia wrote: I'm not a native English speaker but I guess "textured" would describe something else, like a certain pattern as in orange peel reflectors for instance. Opaque seems to be a quite common expression for a diffuse surface. Longtime user of American English here and sometimes I even manage to get it right. Big Smile Hopefully this is one of those times. Maybe better words to indicate the treatment could be "frosted" or "translucent". That type of surface is one that allows light to pass yet doesn't allow for clearly seeing through it and is done on a microscopic level. As Lux-P' wrote, texture is how something feels, mostly on a larger scale rather than a micro scale. There might be other ways of using the word, but that's the one I'm using here without using a dictionary..

I love semantics too; it's even more fun when you factor in some language and culture bias; but here I can only concur : frosted or translucent are way better options. And I belive frosted to be the semantic winner.

funkychateau wrote:
“Frosted” and “translucent” both describe the characteristics better than “textured” or “opaque”. Opaque implies that it doesn’t pass light at all.

That was exactly my point about opaque, great explanation !

 

Last questions normally, two firsts are important to me to complete the translation; others are more suggestions/small typos :

  1. Can somebody explain me the "Switch Backlight" chapter, or point me to discussion regarding that. I'm confused of the behavior, and don't want to translate something I'm not getting. It may be me, but something doesn't make sense.
  2. Can somebody explain me this paragraph from the "Ramp Configuration" section: Note the default (after a battery change or other power interruption) for LT1 setup the smooth ramp will turn on at level 65.  For the stepped ramp, the output level choices by default are 10 / 45 / 80 / 115 / 150. The LT1 will turn on at level 80 by default.  Once the floor and ceiling levels of the LT1 are changed as described below, the LT1 will remember these changes even after the power is interrupted.  After the stepped ramp is changed the lantern will come on at the programmed level closest to 65.
    1. Why does STEPPED and SMOOTH does not share the same default (65 vs. 80)?
    2. What are the defaults for SMOOTH? Or why are there multiple defaults possible for STEPPED?
    3. Why does the STEPPED RAMP would want to be close as possible to level 65 at start after programmation?
  3. In my word editor many "double spaces" and "triple spaces" are hidden on the last pages. Mainly starting from this sentence " While the LT1 is ON in one of the ramping modes, click 4   times   to enter   RAMP   CONFIGURATION   for  the current ramp."
  4. To set the lowest possible level, click once. (MOON) => MOON is placed after the dot, while infact belonging to the previous sentence.
  5. Ceiling clicks: 151 – ( level you want ) = Clicks To => Misses a dot before "To"
  6. "To configure the LEDs, " => should be singular, as it refers to the switch LED.
  7. O-ring => it is not located or described (like proper diameter and section). I believe it to be at the head/base interface, right ?
  8. Do you think it could be useful to always had the indicative lumen correspondance when we refer to the levels?
  9. What would be a fitting replacement to rubbing/isopropylic alcohol ? In Europe, and in France, it is an industrial alcohol that is not widely available to consumers, or for quite "suprizing" prices. Could 70°/90° pharmaceutical ethylic alcohol be proposed?

ToyKeeper and Lux-Perpetua, so far I've factored in all your answers to the french translation. Thanks.

Rise and Shine my precious...

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Please add 3 more for me

That makes a total of 6 (3 for Christmas presents, I hope).

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From a brief 10 minute read through of this forum I would like to make sure I have most if not all of the current facts straight:

Price is:
$63 with 4 batteries
$50 with no batteries

Availability still to be announced

Emails related to people included on interest to buy list will go out October 10ish

Product currently available to order on Aliexpress site at non-discounted price

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The 10th? Is it really going to be that long? At least they might be here by Halloween if we get lucky.

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SIGShooter wrote:
IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

My username is correct, just the quantity to be updated to a total of two. Thank you!

Wølf/Diesel™

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SwissFlashy wrote:
I hope that the groupbuy can be purchased from AE too, because for example amazon.com does not ship to switzerland and amazon.de does not ship any Marketplace items to Switzerland.

I could forward it to you from Germany if needed Smile

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I’m currently down for two, please could you add one for a total of three.

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I want one more for a total of two. (#2251 on list)
thanks!

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Thanks for keeping track of all this data, sir.

And if I haven’t said before, thanks to TK, DBSAR, and the rest of the team for bringing this home.

SIGShooter wrote:
IMPORTANT REMINDER

Everyone should check that their BLF user name is CORRECT in either the Interest list by entry number or Interest list by users name files. Both lists pulls from the same source so either one can be used. If your name is not in the files or is incorrectly spelled then you won’t be getting a PM when the buying instructions go out. If you have already checked then you can ignore this.

It’s possible that a separate PM will be sent for each lantern requested so also verify that you are on the lists for all lanterns that you desire. The “Interest list by user names” file has your name with the number of lanterns you are in for while the “Interest list by entry number” file lists each request separately and in the order they were made.

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ActiveAl wrote:

I admire you Lux-Perpetua - you have made the LT1 manual great and on time!  Most people have no idea how difficult it is to do what you have accomplished! Thank you!

Thanks for your kind words ActiveAI. Smile But it's a collaborative success with everyone's contribution. BLF and this very lantern here are some of those outstanding examples proving that collective work can bring up great things to life. We should not forget to say 'thank you' to Sofirn for listening to the voice of the customer and for building this amazing lantern.

 

fneuf wrote:
  • Why no reference to the forum, like a "crowd-designed lantern" mention put near the title, along the first reference to the great Anduril? ► left as is, due to major layout changes
  • The order in the battery brands suggestions does not look like random. I'd suggest to use alphabetical order to avoid the creation of the feeling of subjective inclinations. ► updated
  • We write to use 5V USB sources in the safety precautions paragraphs, but later we say the user can go up to 15V sources. That feel inconsistent. ► left as is, see previous explanation
  • Should the diffuser be described more as "textured" rather than "opaque"? ► updated, now using "frosted"
  • I saw so far no words about protected or unprotected battery compatibility? ► updated, added "protected and unprotected"
  • There are multiple references to the button-top batteries, do we really need to repeat it each time? ► left as is, see previous explanation
  • To ease the natural ordering of the "Quick Start" part, I'd propose to numbered the main steps. Step 1, step 2, etc ► left as is, as the layout would have suffered (= too much hassle, sorry)
  • (...)
  • For disambiguation, I'd suggest to use "battery charger" instead of just "charger" (that might be mixed with USB charger). ► updated
  • "70% max on ext. source" part is confusing. How the user is supposed to control/even know this figure? Shouldn't the LT1 automatically lower/control its output regarding the energy source? ► left as is, see previous explanation
  • Some instructions are repeated. Like maximal dimensions of batteries (first paragraph, and again in specifications). General rule : are repetitions voluntarily made or can be "smartly" controlled? ► left as is, not feasible in such a short time, sorry
  • (...)
  • (...)
  • Some things looks not perfectly ordered. For instance, in UI texts we speak about levels (as in level 150) before introducing what levels are and what does they represent. ► left as is, not feasible in such a short time, sorry
  • (...)
  • Why not "for simplifying the UI for users who want a simpler experience."=> for simplifying the UI for users who wants an easier experience." or something the like? ► updated
  • I'd propose that MUGGLE have an added explanation stating that it also intent to securise the usage of the LT1. ► left as is, see previous explanation
  • (...)
  • "3.1 volts or lower" => why not directly state "lower than 3.2" ? ► left as is, see previous explanation
  • Correction Click three times, but hold the third click until the strobe mode stars.=> Click three times, but hold the third click until the strobe mode starts. ► updated

(...)

 

fneuf wrote:

(...)

Last questions normally, two firsts are important to me to complete the translation; others are more suggestions/small typos :

  1. (...)
  2. (...)
  3. In my word editor many "double spaces" and "triple spaces" are hidden on the last pages. Mainly starting from this sentence " While the LT1 is ON in one of the ramping modes, click 4   times   to enter   RAMP   CONFIGURATION   for  the current ramp." ► updated, double/triple space removed
  4. To set the lowest possible level, click once. (MOON) => MOON is placed after the dot, while infact belonging to the previous sentence. ► updated
  5. Ceiling clicks: 151 – ( level you want ) = Clicks To => Misses a dot before "To" ► updated
  6. "To configure the LEDs, " => should be singular, as it refers to the switch LED. ► updated
  7. (...)
  8. (...)
  9. (...)

ToyKeeper and Lux-Perpetua, so far I've factored in all your answers to the french translation. Thanks.

Merci beaucoup pour ton aide, fneuf! Smile

I have incorporated most of your suggestions and rectified all typos you have found out. I have uploaded this new revision onto your working folder for the French translation. I have also put you on the credit list as part of the team (I hope DBSAR & the team won't mind) Wink

The new revision is also uploaded to the public shared folder, see link in the OP of this thread for further information.

Sofirn will receive the final (I mean it! Big Smile ) revision of October 8, 2019 by tomorrow, so chances will be good to get it together with batch #2.

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djozz wrote:
sbslider wrote:
I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will be through Amazon, but subject to Sofirn’s final decision.
I’m pretty sure the group buy price/codes will not be exclusively through Amazon or most of the world and many on the list could not buy their LT1.

I probably post more info here than is necessary, as it only stirs things up that are out of my control. The details I assume are still being worked out. As I stated, Sofirn makes the final decision, not sbslider. However, I did read in our group chat recently a very long list of countries which Amazon will ship to. It’s my impression that the LT1 will be available on several different amazon sites, not just the US one. I will refrain from posting any more speculation regarding these details regarding if/how/when the LT1 will be available. To quote someone on here, it will be ready when its ready. And a new quotable, it will be available from who the manufacturer makes it available from.

see below the list of countries Barry from Sofirn believes can purchase from amazon:

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Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Cyprus, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, Albania, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Montenegro, San Marino, Serbia, Vatican City State (Holy See), Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Gibraltar, Moldova Republic of, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Russia, Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands, Japan, Mongolia, South Korea, Taiwan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Afghanistan, Brunei, Cambodia, East Timor, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, British Indian Ocean Territory, Canada, Mexico, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuela, Falkland Islands (Malvinas), Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Bahamas, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Cayman Islands, Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Aruba, Bermuda, Dominica, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Jamaica, Martinique, Montserrat, Netherlands Antilles, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Turks and Caicos Islands, Virgin Islands (British), Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Comoros, Mauritius, Seychelles, Malawi, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Madagascar, Mayotte, Mozambique, Reunion, Angola, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo Democratic Republic of, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Sao Tome and Principe, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia, Western Sahara, Botswana, Lesotho, Namibia, South Africa, Swaziland, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cape Verde, Ivory Coast, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Togo, Mauritania, Saint Helena, Fiji, New Caledonia, Papua New Guinea, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, Kiribati, Nauru, Cook Islands, French Polynesia, Niue, Pitcairn, Samoa, Tokelau, Tonga, Tuvalu, Wallis and Futuna Islands, Australia, New Zealand, Norfolk Island, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Christmas Island

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