Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2014

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ENELOOP CODING: updated December 2014

Eneloop Standard:

1st Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: HR-4UTG 1000cycles Rated 800mAh. Min. 750mAh
....AA: HR-3UTG 1000cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min. 1,900mAh
.......C: HR-2UTG 1000cycles Rated 3,200mAh. Min. 3,000mAh
.......D: HR-1UTG 1000cycles Rated 6,000mAh. Min. 5,700mAh

2nd Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: HR-4UTGA 1500cycles Rated 800mAh. Min. 750mAh
...AA: HR-3UTGA 1500cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min. 1,900mAh

3rd Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs
AAA: HR-4UTGB 1800cycles Rated 800mAh. Min 750mAh
...AA: HR-3UTGB 1800cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min 1,900mAh

4th Generation Eneloop model numbers and specs*10
AAA: BK-4MCC 2100cycels Min. 750mAh
...AA: BK-3MCC 2100cycels Min.1900mAh
......C: BK-2MGC 1000cycles Min.3000mAh
......D: BK-1MGC 1000cycles Min.5700mAh

Eneloop Lite


Eneloop LITE: 1st generation
AAA: HR-4UQ 2000cycles Rated 600mAh. Min 550mAh
...AA: HR-3UQ 2000cycles Rated 1,000mAh. Min 900mAh

Eneloop LITE: 2nd generation
AAA:
BK-4LCC 5000cycles Min 550mAh
...AA:
BK-3LCC 5000cycles Min 900mAh

Eneloop PRO (former XX)


Eneloop XX: 1st generation*4
AAA: not existing

...AA: HR-3UWX 500cycles Rated 2,500mAh. Min 2,400mAh
...AA: HR-3UWXA
500cycles Rated 2,500mAh. Min 2,400mAh (these are 1st gen, sold in China, they added the letter A)
But for easy understanding I call them 2nd gen.


Eneloop XX: 3nd generation *4
AAA:
HR-4UWXB 500cycles Min 900mAh
...AA: HR-3UWXB 500cycles Min 2,450mAh

Eneloop XX: 4rd generation *4
AAA:
BK-4HCC 500cycles Min 900mAh
...AA: BK-3HCC 500cycles Min 2,450mAh

Eneloop PLUS



Eneloop PLUS
AAA: not existing
AA: HR-3UPT 1800cycles Rated 2,000mAh. Min 1,900mAh

Eneloop Limited Editions

  • 2nd generation

AAA: not existing
...AA: HR-3UTGA-8TN:Tones(Japan November 2009) (only available in 8 pack)

AAA: HR-4UTGA-8SL
...AA: HR-3UTGA-8*8SL: Glitter tones: (Japan November 2010) (only available in 8 pack)

  • 3rd generation


AAA: HR-4UTGB-8C
...AA: HR-3UTGB-8*6C*5 :Chocolat tones (Japan Nov 2011) (only available in 8 pack)
Note: there are now also Chinese made Chocolat tones, which have a different code

AAA: HR-4UTGB-8D
...AA: HR-3UTGB-8D Disney (Japan 2012) (available in 4 and 8 pack)

AAA: not existing
...AA: HR-3UTGB-8DL: Disney Love (Japan 2012) (only available in 8 pack)

AAA: HR-4UTGB-8U
...AA: HR-3UTGB-8U : Tones Uomo (Japan Sep 2012) (available in 4 and 8 pack)

AAA: HR-4UTGB-8R
...AA: HR-3UTGB-8R : Tones Rouge (Japan Sep 2012) (available in 4 and 8 pack)

AAA: not existing
...AA:
HR-3UTGB-8D2: Disney 2 (Japan Oct 2012) (only available in 8 pack)

AAA: not existing
...AA: HR-3UTGBTPE: Tropical (Europe Nov 2013) (only available in 8 pack)
upgraded now to 4th generation, see below

  • 4th generation:


AAA: BK-4MCC/8GL
...AA: BK-3MCC/8GL
: Glamorous (Japan Nov 2013) (available in 4 and 8 pack)

AAA: BK-4MCC/8F
...AA:BK-3MCC/8F: Forest Tones (Japan Nov 2014) (only available in 8 pack)


AAA: not existing
...AA:BK-3MCCE/8PT: Tropical (............Dec 2014) (only available in 8 pack)
Note: 70% remaining are probably made in Japan, while the 65% remaining are definitely made in China




At one point, Eneloop decided not the use their Rating anymore, and only their Minimum mAh.. therefore I didnt include the Ratings anymore with some batteries.


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More detailed info: 1st

More detailed info:

1st generation:
HR-4UTG: AAA(85% Claimed capacity after *31 year, *2date: November 2005) *9
HR-3UTG ...AA (85% Claimed capacity after *31 year, *2date: November 2005)
HR-2UTG C (*1 date: 2007)
HR-1UTG D (*1 date: 2007)
Can be used in weather as low as -10degrees

2nd generation:
HR-4UTGA: AAA (75% Claimed capacity after *33 years, *2date: November 2009)
HR-3UTGA: ...AA (
75% Claimed capacity after *33 years, *2date: November 2009)
Can be used in weather as low as -20degrees


3rd generation:
HR-4UTGB: AAA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: November 2011)
HR-3UTGB: ...AA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: November 2011)

4th generation:
BK-4MCC: AAA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: April 2013)
BK-3MCC: ...AA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: April 2013)
BK-2MGC:.......C (
70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: April 2013)
BK-1MGC:.......D (
70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: April 2013)


Eneloop LITE: 1st generation
HR-4UTGA: AAA (75%Claimed capacity after *33 years, *2date: June 2010)
HR-3UTGA:....AA (75%Claimed capacity after *33 years, *2date: June 2010)

Eneloop LITE: 2nd generation
BK-4LCC: AAA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: April 2013)
BK-3LCC:....AA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, *2date: April 2013)

Eneloop XX: 1st generation *4
HR-3UWX: ...AA (75%Claimed capacity after *31 year, date: 2010)

Eneloop XX: 2nd generation *4
HR-4UWXB: AAA (85%Claimed capacity after *31year, date: October 2012)
HR-3UWXB:  ..AA (85%Claimed capacity after
*31year, date: October 2012)

Eneloop XX: 3rd generation *4
BK-4HCC: AAA (85%Claimed capacity after *31year, date: April 2013)
BK-3HCC:  ..AA (85%Claimed capacity after
*31year, date: April 2013)

Eneloop PLUS:
HR-3UPT: .....AA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, date: November 2011)

How to distinguish the 4 different generations:


From outer appearance, you can see the difference in the following:
1st generations didnt have a picture of a Crown
2nd generations has this crown
3rd generation has metallic looking letters, and a Line underneath the Crown
4th generation has PANASONIC written on its side, and eneloop underneath it in small font



Explaining the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4, as in HR-3UTG and HR-4UTG are simply stating the size of batteries used here in Japan.
D size is 1
C size is 2
AA size is 3
AAA size is 4

Reading the manufacturing date:

On the side of every original eneloop battery you can find a date code embossed. You can decipher it. (if yours doesn't have any, yours probably fake)
The code doesnt have any color, so you might have to look really up-close.
Example: 08-03YX
the first 2 numbers indicate the year: 08=2008
the next 2 numbers indicate the month: 03=March

So, these HR-3UTG batteries are made in March 2008. (the 1st generation)

Are my eneloops fake?

By Appearance:
for the older versions, some fakes were easy to spot, some less
*spelling mistakes, in the word WASH (written as WAHS) and WATER (written as WATHER)
*different colors around the + nipple of the cell, should be white; if its black, blue or anything else, its fake
*there should be no ridge near the front end of the cell for newer cells after 2007
*wrong capacity on the cells
*if the cell doesn't have a datecode embossed on the side of each cell, they are fake

By discharge:
you`ll need a "smart-batterycharger" that has a display to see the mAh used while discharging. (examples are Maha and Lacrosse chargers)
The first step is  to (1).discharge all the cells.
Check the mAh on your display. Note it down.
(2).Charge the cell, and (3).discharge again. Write amount mAh down.
If the discharge mAh are over 2200, or far below 1900 they are most probably fake. If the amounts arent so strange, you`ll have to wait. (4)Charge them full.
Now you`ll need to leave them for about a month untouched, and do another (5).discharge with 1 battery.
Check the difference between the 2nd discharge and this one,
if the difference is big, then you`ll probably have fakes. (you can double check with 1 other cell)
If it lost about 10% of charge, they are not the real deal.
But if it still doesnt seem too bad, and within borders, you can leave it for another month orso, and do the discharge with the ones that hasnt been discharged yet since.

Venting holes

Since the first generation Eneloop had 4 venting holes at the Positive side of the battery.
They continued this with their 2nd generation in 2009, until November 2010, when they started to ship them without venting holes.
See the pictures below, 2nd generation standard eneloops HR-3UTGA with venting holes.
Also my 3rd generation AAA`s have venting holes.


*1= I couldnt find the actual date of production and couldn’t find the claimed % after a year
*2= production date and available date in storage might differ from place to place
*3= years of storage, not being used.
*4=Eneloop XX named on western market 2010, Eneloop Pro on Japanese market 2011.
*5=C stands for Chocolate, D stands for Disney, DL stands for Disney Love,TN stands for tones, SL ?? Glitter ? dont know why the S here.
*6=number 4 or 8 stands for the number of cells included in the package
*7=they are only special as far as appearance, the cells are actually the same as the normal white ones. The codes of the cells are the same, just the last 1 or 2 letters will be different according to the print
*8=not sold in other amounts than 8 per pack
*9=In Japan someone tested 3 year old 1st gen. eneloops and got still over 80% after 3 years of storage
*10=Panasonic decided to re-do the Eneloop styling, and details from April 26, 2013 Therefore they have different codes!
*11=Eneloop
HR-3UWXA-4H is the 1st generation Eneloop XX, but only sold in China..

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OVERVIEW TABLE
ModelSizeCodeCyclesRated
Min.%afterYear
Std 1st genAAAHR-4UTG1000800mAh750mAh85%1 year2005
 AAHR-3UTG10002,000mAh1,900mAh85%1 year2005
 CHR-2UTG10003,200mAh3,000mAh  2007
 DHR-1UTG10006,000mAh5,700mAh  2007
Std 2nd genAAAHR-4UTGA1500800mAh750mAh75%3 years2009
 AAHR-3UTGA15002,000mAh1,900mAh75%3 years2009
Std 3rd genAAAHR-4UTGB1800800mAh750mAh70%5 years2011
 AAHR-3UTGB 1800 2,000mAh1,900mAh70%5 years2011
Std 4th genAAABK-4MCC2100750mAh750mAh70%5 years2013
 AABK-3MCC21001,900mAh1,900mAh70%5 years2013
 CBK-2MGC10003,000mAh3,000mAh70%5 years2013
 DBK-1MGC10005,700mAh5,700mAh70%5 years2013
LITE 1st genAAAHR-4UQ2000600mAh550mAh75%3 years2010
 AAHR-3UQ20001,000mAh900mAh75%3 years2010
LITE 2nd genAAABK-4LCC5000550mAh550mAh70%5 years2013
 AABK-3LCC5000950mAh950mAh70%5 years2013
PRO / XX 1st genAA onlyHR-3UWX 5002,500mAh2,400mAh75%1 year2010

PRO / XX 2nd gen

AAAHR-4UWXB500900mAh900mAh85%1 year2012
 AAHR-3UWXB5002,450mAh2,450mAh85%1 year2012
PRO / XX 3rd genAAABK-4HCC500900mAh900mAh85% 1 year2013
 AABK-3HCC5002,450mAh2,450mAh85%1 year2013
PLUSAA onlyHR-3UPT18002,000mAh1,900mAh70%5 years2011

In the table above, at a certain point eneloop Japan decided not to RATE the batteries anymore, but only mention the Minimum mAh. therefore I copied the Min. into the Rated box


Reading the manufacturing date:

On the side of every original eneloop battery you can find a date code embossed. You can decipher it.
The code doesnt have any color, so you might have to look really up-close.
Example: 08-03YX
the first 2 numbers indicate the year: 08=2008
the next 2 numbers indicate the month: 03=March

So, these HR-3UTG batteries are made in March 2008. (the 1st generation)

 

 

Capacity:

Eneloop HR-3UTGB, 3rd generation, std. eneloop white.

Below more detailed information about their capacity.
These graphs are taken from BLF member HKJ`s website, with his permission.

 

The following is from:

Eneloop HR-3UWXB,  eneloop XX. (2nd generation)

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New eneloops

March 2013

Panasonic decided to change the eneloop batteries into something more Panasonic oriented.
Their old "eneloop" text will be changed into "panasonic" and in really small font; "eneloop".

Here is the new info from their website;

They will start selling these Panasonic brand eneloops in Japan from April 26, 2013


Old info:

March 2012

Some new Eneloops are announced, the Disney Eneloops.
Will be on the Japanese market from March 2012

3rd gen.
Disney
AA: HR-3UTGB 8D (D stands for Disney) (8 stands for the amount of cells included in the package, a 4-pack is also available)
AAA: HR-4UTGB 8D

Disney Love:
AA: HR-3UTGB 8DL (dl: disney love)
AAA: non existing

What I actually like about these eneloops, is that they will drop in price after the celebration is over.

Edit: added info below, June 2012
Worth mentioning

Sanyo Harmolattice: powered by eneloop

These are not part of the Sanyo Eneloop line up, but! the only difference is that these cells don`t come pre-charged, unlike the Eneloops. The specs are the same as the Eneloop XX (EuropeUSA) and Eneloop Pro (Japan).

HR-3U25HM:....AA (75%Claimed capacity after 1 year)

AA: HR-3U25HM
AAA: not existing


 

August 2012
Eneloop has just announced the new eneloop tones UOMO and eneloop tones ROUGE
Both are the 3rd gen. eneloops, 1800cycles.
Will be on the japanse market from September 13, 2012
They have a "limited batch" of 100.000 packs.

Eneloop tones UOMO
AA
:
HR-3UTGB-8U
AAA: HR-4UTGB-8U *
take note that these are only sold in 8-packs
* "U" stands for UOMO

 



Eneloop tones ROUGE
4-pack
AA: HR-3UTGB-4R
AAA: HR-4UTGB-4R
8-pack
AA: HR-3UTGB-8R
AAA: HR-4UTGB-8R *
* "R" stands for ROUGE

 

October 2012
Eneloop has just announced the new eneloop Disney 2
They are the 3rd gen. eneloops, 1800cycles.
Will be on the Japanese market from October 25, 2012
They have a "limited batch" of 20.000 packs.

Eneloop Disney
AA
:
HR-3UTGB8D2
AAA: not existing

November 2013

The first limited editions of 2013 under the new Panasonic wrappers....

available from November 29th 2013, in Japan.

BK-3MCC/8GL glamorous...
4 different colors.. can be bought in 4 and 8 packs.. AA and AAA

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ChibiM wrote:Special

Great compilation of Eneloop releases - thank you very much!

let's not forget to mention that the colored 8-packs have the advantage of pre-numbered cells (#1, #2, .., #8) so you dont have to mark them with a pen yourself.

i posted a freshly taken picture of the 7th cell of the Eneloop Glitter 8-pack. it's the 3rd cell from the left. as you can see, it is numbered (bears "#7").

These kind of products make me feel good. joy-bringers!!

i certainly cherish mine. They perform so much differently (=no dimming effect in flashlights) than normal NiMH's or worse: Alkalines!

And they are *not* expensive anymore. Per cell you pay 12.99€ for an 8-pack on ebay/amazon. That's cheaper than the Eneloop Lite's!, and the same for a LiIon cell (Trustfire, Ultrafire, Won'tFire, ..).

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Thanks.. will update the

 

Eneloop XX are sold with different numbers in different countries.. which might cause confusion....at least it confused me.

These are all HR-3UWXB, 2nd generation XX/PRO but with different pacakges.. 1 with nominal mAh rating, others with minimal mAh rating.

Above left is the Chinese version, and right is the English version

and below is the Japanese version:

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Thanks for compiling this

Thanks for compiling this list!

I didn't know there is a 3rd generation already.

I think it would look better in a table... but as it is - great to have this info all in one place!

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WOW! Thanks! Great job!

WOW! Thanks! Great job!

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Nice job.  Thanks for your

Nice job.  Thanks for your hard work.

I like the idea of having a whole set of eneloops that are different color or have different lables.  

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very nice job tyfrom

very nice job ty

from wikipedia...

eneloop plus

eneloop plus have a PTC thermistor built-in that cuts the power when the batteries are overheating. This makes them especially suitable for toys. Other specifications are identical to the second-generation eneloops. The product number is HR-3UPT (AA) and the battery was released in Japan in December 2011

is about that

Eneloop PLUS:
HR-3UPT: AA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, date November 2011


...tables are WAY better!!!

/trolling mode off xD

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Thanks so much ChibiM. I want

Thanks so much ChibiM. I want to purchase some Eneloops and this helps sort out the confusion over which ones to buy.

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Thanks very much for the

Thanks very much for the data.  Do you have the same for Duraloops ?

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Hi,sorry, there are not many

Hi,

sorry, there are not many duraloops around here!

If someone could provide the info, I could probably add it to the list...

I almost got a headache of checking both English and Japanese websites to get all the info.

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MixoMaxo wrote:very nice job

MixoMaxo wrote:

very nice job ty

from wikipedia...

eneloop plus

eneloop plus have a PTC thermistor built-in that cuts the power when the batteries are overheating. This makes them especially suitable for toys. Other specifications are identical to the second-generation eneloops. The product number is HR-3UPT (AA) and the battery was released in Japan in December 2011

is about that

Eneloop PLUS:
HR-3UPT: AA (70%Claimed capacity after *35 years, date November 2011


...tables are WAY better!!!

/trolling mode off xD

Thanks,

I will add more info to the Eneloop PLUS soon.(dates could differ, especially looking at the release date, manufacturing date, news date, release date in Japan or overseas etc.)

Also, Wikipedia is WRONG! these are not the same as the 2nd generation! they are the same as the 3rd generation. 1800 cycles, 70% after 5 years storage.
Thats my info from the Japanese Eneloop website.

Also, I will make a table to include on the bottom of the list, as soon as I can

Panasonic seems to have very good cells under their roof! Eneloops and 18650 3100mAh NCR batteries..

I guess they are having the best engineers from the 2 groups together! Hopefully they can get their heads together, and improve both types of batteries even more

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GREAT WRITE UP!Thank you very

GREAT WRITE UP!

Thank you very much...!

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Here a tiny bit of info for

Here a tiny bit of info for total newbies:

Another term for "Rated capacity" is the word "Nominal capacity", and i prefer the latter in RL although < rated capacity eneloop > is more popular with google.

And there is the "Minimal capacity". For a standard Eneloop AA, the minimal capacity is 1900mAh and its rated at 2000mAh, so the nominal capacity is 2000mAh.

When you have a charger with a digital display (BC-700 clone, Imax B6 clone, C9000, ..) and are asked to punch in the "Please set battery capacity: ...", then you always enter the nominal capacity ("2000") and never the minimal capacity ("1900").

This is interesting/important to know because when you look at the Eneloops itself, all you can read is "1900" on the physical cells. So the uninitiated will be tempted to run his/her BC-700 set to "1900" instead of "2000".

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Uhmm Dinoboy? can you read

Uhmm Dinoboy? can you read private messages? Wink

(Im just talking about this same thing via PM with Kreisler)

As far as I know the little ® was part of their re-design back in 2007.
But it seems that the same symbol is missing on some eneloops in Europe.. at least the ones that Kreisler has.

As far as I understand, the symbol is present on all eneloops sold in Japan.

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yeah dinoboy, good point

yeah dinoboy, good point made!

I was thinking that maybe the retail packages are filled with ®-symbol'ed cells because my white ones are original bulk cells bought from ebay, provided by various German sellers with direct bulk supply from Sanyo Europe.

But then i look at my glitter cells, and there is no ®-symbol either. (Glitter are always sold in retail packages, and i got mine in original German language packaging (bi-lingual), 8-pack.)

So the symbol has nothing to do with retail vs. bulk.

I would assume that the machinist who operated the printer had one nihonshu too much the weekend before Beer

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I think its interesting to

I think its interesting to mention, that I just found a Japanese website with different tests on eneloops,
and the 1st generation eneloops still hold 80% after 3 years! amazing!

So everyone that has still the 1st generation eneloops, dont worry, dont hurry.. yours are doing still perfectly fine
you dont need to get the newest and latest .....yet

(But I still want to get a set of the newest versions, anyhow)

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kreisler wrote:at the end of

kreisler wrote:

at the end of this year the 4th generation will be available in Japan, HR-4UTGC

this time not Disney (1800x), but maybe Sesamestreet (2000x). (kiddin. jus sayin)


2000x sounds good, i like it. better than "1800" (or why didnt they choose "1750"??).

We all know it's a marketing trick Wink


 

That's right. Sometimes you gotta undersell yourself a little bit so you can leave enough for the next marketing push. If the 2nd generation was actually rated at 1650 but they could still only squeeze ~1800 out of the 3rd generation then you don't have as much separation to make it an effective selling point. Just food for thought Laughing

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kreisler wrote:We all know

kreisler wrote:

We all know it's a marketing trick Wink

The increased number of charge cycles is not a marketing trick, it is achieved by making the cells more robust.  It's detailed in the brochure announcing the release of the 1500 cycle cells. So it's good for consumers either way. 

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Great job, ChibiM! I didn't

Great job, ChibiM! I didn't even realize they had improved the Eneloops again.

I bet there are some lab techs who just charge, discharge, and recharge Eneloops all the time. It took them a long time to get to 1,000. Then when they got 1,500 they started printing that on the packaging. Now they have finally gotten to 1,800 cycles, so they have changed the packaging again. It's just the same batteries! (just kidding, kind of)

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I find it funny that people

I find it funny that people are collecting batteries because they look pretty. I must say I'm tempted too though, haha.

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Here my own measurements of

Here my own measurements of exact weight (measured with precision scale and with kitchen scale) and effective capacity (measured with C9000):

Eneloop AA Glitter (HR-3UTGA-8BP GLITTER):

 weight (+0.001grams)eff. capacity (+1mAh)
#126.021g [26g]2031mAh
#225.887g [26g]2030mAh
#325.953g [26g]2036mAh
#425.967g [26g]2036mAh
#525.955g [26g]2036mAh
#626.068g [26g]2063mAh
#725.988g [26g]2032mAh
#826.042g [26g]2034mAh
arith. avg.25.985g2037mAh

Eneloop AAA (HR-4UTGA):

 weight (+0.001grams)eff. capacity (+1mAh)
#111.700g [12g]820mAh
#211.708g [12g]832mAh
#311.593g [12g]812mAh
#411.722g [12g]827mAh
#511.810g [12g]825mAh
#611.731g [12g]823mAh
#711.757g [12g]825mAh
#811.793g [12g]824mAh
arith. avg.11.727g823mAh

These numbers become relevant when you want to add the 1x Eneloop cell weight to (or substract from) the weight data given in flashlight reviews, manufacturer ads, and similar. Safe rounded values to use in your calculations are 11.7grams for 1x AAA Eneloops, and 26.0grams for 1x AA Eneloop Glitters. Sorry, i dont own any white AA Eneloops Tongue

adding to this thread. with my new accurate DMM and the C9000 i was able to measure that with an Eneloop AAA and -200mA discharge rate the C9000 discharges down to 0.90V (under load) and that this equals an offline voltage of 1.05V. Once offline and resting, the Eneloop AAA would then recover up to 1.19V within 2.0hrs. If you let the cell rest even longer, the stationary voltage point could lie even higher.

from these numbers you can calculate the sag to 0.15V and the recovery to 0.14V minimum, which makes a total of 0.29V (relative voltage).

*fyi* A so-called battery tester declares a cell dead when the sag approaches 0.0V. At that point the cell (e.g. Alkaline Duracell) might still bear a rest offline voltage of e.g. 0.3784V but this "amount" of absolute voltage is good for nothing (good for nothing like many of kreisler's smarta$$ posts haha).

For more on discharge and charge rates for Eneloops and Eneloop chargers please refer to the thread Where to get eneloop + charger?, thanks.

 

EDIT: after 1.0yrs the cell's capacity decreased a bit. the more relevant data is posted in veer's thread.

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Thanks for this ChibiM!  I

Thanks for this ChibiM!  I didn't know that there where new colored eneloops out there and I didn't even know they were numbered.  I have 16 each of the tones, glitters, costco tones, xxeloops and a ton of white eneloops. 

Now I need to add the new ones to my eneloop collection.

 

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Still using my 2006 Eneloops,

Still using my 2006 Eneloops, I've had a couple die (low capacity 1200mAh) the rest are approximately 1900 mAh.

They have had no special care, other than stored cells being cycled about every six months. 

I would never purchase any other brand of Nimh. 

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SANYO ENELOOP Harmolattice 2500mAh

I just saw in a store a Sanyo Eneloop Harmolattice 2500mAh AA (2400mAh minimum) battery. The part number is HR-3U25HM.  I think it is available only in Asia yet. It says 500 recharges, retains 75% charge after 1 year.  Is this the same product as the Eneloop XX? The XX doesn't have the "Harmolattice" description.  Is it newer/better than the other Eneloops?  What's your take on this guys....?

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Hey Tatasal, Good question..

Hey Tatasal, Good question.. that is most likely the same as the XX / PRO version. XX called in Europe and US, PRO called in Japan. so the thing that is different, is the code..

So far, the specs are exactly the same as the XX, so I would suppose them to be the same.. anyway, Ill take another look into it.

edit: updated info in first few posts

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SANYO HARMOLATTICE

i have two concerns:

1.  The word 'eneloop' is not printed on the batt itself. It only says in the

      packet..'eneloop powered'.  Is this a true eneloop?

2.  I'll be having a Fenix TK41 (8aa batt).  Frequency of use: maybe 1 to 2 

     minutes/week, sometimes none at all..Which will be more practical...primary

     Energizer lithiums (claims of up to 10yrs shelf life) OR eneloops?  My lights

     stay inside its original box almost 100% of the time.  I don't want it 

     scratched! 

 

 

    

 

     

      

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Hi Tatasal,First of all, the

Hi Tatasal,

First of all, the Harmolattice are real Sanyo batteries.
I dont know the ones you bought\want to buy are the "real deal", because some people seem to have bought fake white eneloops on ebay for example.
But this singaporean website actually shows them to be genuine Sanyo cells.

if you dont use it that often,  I would go for the lithium batteries...or normal eneloops (if the MAX voltage of 8 lithium cells isnt a problem for that light).

Lithiums might be cheaper as well.

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SANYO ENELOOP Harmolattice 2500mAh

hi ChibM, 

            I just like  to point out that I did not say that they are fake Sanyos, but my concern is that are they 'eneloops' considering it's never printed in the label of the battery itself as 'ENELOOP'.   Although it says 'eneloop powered''  CHEERS !

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