Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2019

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it’s chocolat, as in french for chocolate

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I see, well at least the spelled colours right Wink

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They look the same as the previous chocolat tones.

and thats an awesome price you paid there...

edit: these are the earlier ones HR-3UTGB

and the following are the new ones..

they are different... the older ones had 8 unique colors, while the new ones, have only 4.

BK-3MCCE

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I’m glad you’re still updating this thread. I only ever read stuff that comes across the front page news. So, I would have missed this entirely. Great collection of information you have going here, ChibiM! Thanks for all your efforts in putting this together and keeping it up-to-date!

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not really up to date.. Wink

since they produce some eneloops in China, I haven`t updated the thread.. as it has been a little confusing.. because they used the same codes, like BK-3MCC, but with the added E or A.. and I have no idea what they stand for..

so up till now its focused on Japan made only.

I asked panasonic through email, but they havent replied.. dont think they will ever do..either...

 

BTW; if Im going to update the first few posts with the newer Chinese made cells, HOW should I do that?

Make a separate list/table?

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ChibiM wrote:

not really up to date.. Wink

since they produce some eneloops in China, I haven`t updated the thread.. as it has been a little confusing.. because they used the same codes, like BK-3MCC, but with the added E or A.. and I have no idea what they stand for..

so up till now its focused on Japan made only.

I asked panasonic through email, but they havent replied.. dont think they will ever do..either…

 

BTW; if Im going to update the first few posts with the newer Chinese made cells, HOW should I do that?

Make a separate list/table?


I don’t think a whole separate list for the Chinese cells, just a separate entry for them in the existing list and table. Or do you think it really would be too confusing? The added E or A might be codes for the factory they are made in. That should be enough to differentiate them in the list, I’d think.

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the A is used in Asia, but also in the US.. and the China made ones use it, as well as the Japan made one

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Ah, I see! 8)

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 BQ-CC11BQ-CC21BG-CC22BQ-CC23BQ-CC24BQ-CC25
Battery fitment4 cells4 cells4 cells2 cells2 cells4+2*1
AAA1-41-41-41-21-21-4
AA1-41-41-41-21-21-4
C-----1-4
D-----1-4
9V*1-----1-2
       
Smart chargeSmartSmartSmartSmart-(timer)-
       
Charge time      
Fast charge*2 1-2 AA2 hours2 hours4 hours4 hours*36 hours
normal charge4 hours4 hours8 hours8 hours7 hours6 hours
       
Zero Power consumption *4yes - - - - -
       
Voltage100-240100-240100-240100-240100-240100-240

*1 BQ-C25 is a multi battery charger, and can charge 9V batteries, 2 in total.

*2 Fast charging can only be done with 2 cells. and not with 4 at the same time.

*3 the BQ-CC24 is a timer based charger especially for eneloop Lite, therefore its not recommended to use with standard eneloops.

 *4 zero power consumption is that the charger will use less than 0.005 watt when not in use, according to IEC62301 it qualifies for Zero Power Consumption. 

PDF info link

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Hi do Eneloop do a
D cell rechargeable yet?

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Yes, already since 2007.

They are supposedly just 3AA std eneloop batteries in a D wrapper.

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I see can I just use 3 eneloops in an appropriate adapter?

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http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?287461-Eneloop-C-amp-...

For good D cells look at:
Tenergy Centura
Powerex Imedion

And yes, eneloops in a adapter will work as well.

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I have found an adapter that takes 2 AA but not 3 can anyone pass on a link for a uk or other supplier? Please thanks for the replys…

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Aliexpress Promo
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Thanks for the links Kloppholz,can anyone tell me where i can get some AA Eneloops in the UK?

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ChibiM’s Eneloop Sales, Amazon (I ordered from iCell few times, shipped from Switzerland.), 7dayshop or eu.nkon.nl

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!DSCF2073-Fake!

The top of my 4th generation Eneloops do not look like the 1st generation. The top is not bright white. Everything else about the fourth generation is correct in appearance and text. Do I have some fakes?
Thanks.

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Where did you buy them from?They look the same as mine which I got from I cell media.on the side BK-3MCCE no/ came in a blister pack with battery case and 4 AA batteries

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Where did you buy them from?They look the same as mine which I got from I cell media.on the side BK-3MCCE no/ came in a blister pack with battery case and 4 AA batteries

A business in New York city.
On side of battery printed: 3MCCA
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In the second post there are instructions for looking for fakes which I find too complex for me anyone??

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My 4th generation made in Japan cells from Costco are also a little off white when compared to 1st gen eneloops. The capacity checks out fine on mine.

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Just judging from that pic, I can say that they are NOT fake. But again, just assuming everything else is the same... the colors around the button are always a little different.. don't worry about that!!!

If you looks at post #1, you can see that one is almost grey.. and the special editions have again different colors.

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ChibiM wrote:

Just judging from that pic, I can say that they are NOT fake. But again, just assuming everything else is the same… the colors around the button are always a little different.. don’t worry about that!!!

If you looks at post #1, you can see that one is almost grey.. and the special editions have again different colors.

Thanks ChibiM and everyone else. Smile

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Does Amazon relabel eneloops?
http://www.amazon.de/AmazonBasics-Vorgeladene-Ni-MH-Akkus-2000-mAh-1900-...

Made in Japan
Modellnummer: HR-3UTG-AMZN (8P)
70% after 3 years remaining.
Similiar look, capacity and discharge values…
Only big difference they are rated for 1000 cycles…

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Is there any definitive answer on how charging current affects cycles over the lifetime for the eneloop and eneloop pro? I generally charge all my AA at 700ma and my AAA at 500ma. Would it be better to charge faster or slower?

BLF

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I`m confident that won`t effect the cells in any measurable manner.

I havent seen any hard evidence with somebody actually doing those tests.. those would be very very time consuming.

In the very very long run you might see a difference, only if you keep track of every little detail. 

So the currents you are currently using are good enough!

the Panasonic chargers usually charge AA with 550mA and AAA with 275mA.

conclusion: No, there are not enough tests that would show the difference between charging AA eneloops at 1A or 750mA.

although member "powermeup" at CPF has done some extreme testing on eneloops that has some interesting results. but that kind of testing is not comparable to real life usage.

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old vs new

Left: Made in Japan 3rd generation Right: Made in (Japan?) 4th generation
I think they now make 2 versions, 1 in China (bottom) and 1 in Japan... (right)


Both say 70% after 5 years.
but this one below, is definitely made in China
65% and from a Chinese website

Backside of this 65% one, showing that its made in China

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Oh ChibiM look, you are now famous person Big Smile better start stacking those eneloops because demand will sky rocket now Silly

 

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Oh so Julian is a member or a lurker? Julian come forward I’m a fan.

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