Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2020 (New fake white eneloops 2020/09)

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hodor wrote:
Thanks ChibiM. Done a bit more research and does look it is smart in that current is varied "depending on temperature and battery status". I've edited my post above. I don't really need another charger but the powerbank feature is interesting and looking to put all the Tones I've accumulated to good use.

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I have it.

It is totally smart.

But with old batteries (high internal resistance) it has a bit of problem.

When using as charger… It reports them as “batteries should be replaced”.(but it charges them… Other chargers simply refuse to charge them)

When using as powerbank… The output current is not 1Amp… More likely 500-700mA.

If you want full 1Amp output, you must use young/new batteries with low internal resistance.

With my old eneloop XX( with a few cycles) it shows that behaviour.

With my white eneloop (with many cycles) it works like a charm. No yellow led indicating batteries should be replaced and full 1Amp output

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Ah good to hear! Shame to hear about the output but I guess I could just keep some new cells with me if I need to use it as a powerbank.

Did you look into the little flashlight attachment?

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hodor wrote:
I also found a photo of the back showing output as 0.5A x 4 (AA) and 0.25A x 4 (AAA). Anyone know if those currents apply regardless of the number of cells? e.g. if populated with only one AAA will it be charged at 0.25A?

Based on the charging time table, it looks like those current values apply if you charge all 4 cells simultaneously. If you only charge 1-2 cells, charging times are cut in half, which would indicate that current is doubled, so a single AAA cell would be charged using 0.5A current.
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hodor wrote:
The little light attachment looks cool. Anyone know where to buy one? I couldn’t find any info on it.

What flashlight attachment? I am not seeing anything on that page, unless I missed it or my ad blocker got it.

Are you referring to something like this?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32954157366.html

https://www.banggood.com/Portable-LED-USB-Light-For-Computer-Notebook-PC-Laptop-Power-Bank-p-970496.html

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Hmm ok, makes sense. I’ll take another look through the manual.

Here’s the attachment which I mentioned and also ChibiM posted a few pages back.

There’s probably nothing special about it and a 3rd party USB light would probably be just as good or even better.

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hodor wrote:
Hmm ok, makes sense. I’ll take another look through the manual.

Here’s the attachment which I mentioned and also ChibiM posted a few pages back.

There’s probably nothing special about it and a 3rd party USB light would probably be just as good or even better.

Any way to get that led light attachment? Can be purchased separately?

EDIT: the led usb light attachment is included only in japan version. Eu version dont include

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Correct, only available in Japan as far as I know. Still a fun attachment. I have one personally. 

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XTAR sell a little USB light as well, if it’s any use:

https://tinyurl.com/y7lttrxf

I don’t have one myself, though, so that’s all I know.

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All aneloop and nihm type batteries are overrated and overhyped if you need run device with minumum 1.5 voltage battery. I’m really disappointed.

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Patu wrote:
All aneloop and nihm type batteries are overrated and overhyped if you need run device with minumum 1.5 voltage battery. I’m really disappointed.

NiMH are nominal 1.2 V and they excel for their purpose.

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Patu wrote:
All aneloop and nihm type batteries are overrated and overhyped if you need run device with minumum 1.5 voltage battery. I’m really disappointed.

How many devices out there require 1.5V minimum?

Most standard or alkaline batteries do not stay at 1.5V very long. For those applications, something like Tenavolts (1.5V Li-Ion) may be best.

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How many devices out there require 1.5V minimum?

Most standard or alkaline batteries do not stay at 1.5V very long. For those applications, something like Tenavolts (1.5V Li-Ion) may be best.

Not many that I have personally, but my current clamp ( uni-t 210E) starts reporting wrong numbers when the cells are under ~1.45V, it’s really bad. My meteo station modules seems to have a high cut off, although not as bad.

I’m wary of the potential self discharge rate of a li-ion cell coupled with a voltage converter, but more importantly they are extremely expensive.

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but more importantly they are extremely expensive.

Yes. Luckily I bought some on sale for under $12 for 4 AA Tenavolts and a charger. That’s about the same price as 4 eneloops.

I am using them in one of my universal Harmony remotes.

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Pete7874 wrote:
Patu wrote:
All aneloop and nihm type batteries are overrated and overhyped if you need run device with minumum 1.5 voltage battery. I’m really disappointed.

How many devices out there require 1.5V minimum?

Most standard or alkaline batteries do not stay at 1.5V very long. For those applications, something like Tenavolts (1.5V Li-Ion) may be best.


This:
https://www.sencor.com/weather-stations/sws-65

I need to try the luck with 10440.

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Patu wrote:
This:
https://www.sencor.com/weather-stations/sws-65

If that sensor is going to sit outside, exposed to significant temperature extremes, your best bet would be lithium primary.
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One of my old Canon digicams would show low battery almost immediately (maybe take a half dozen photos first, that’s about all) with any NiMH. I put some lithium primaries in and they were good for a couple hundred pics.

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Some devices don't really like NiMH batteries because of their voltage, but that doesn't mean they still are one of the best rechargeable NiMH batteries on the planet..

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New fake Eneloops spotted in India this time. Thanks to a reader named Shashi, who tipped me. 

 

What do you think looks weird on this packaging?

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Japan technoly maybe? Smile

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“Japan technology” would not be on the packaging. Plus some other details like the graphics don’t look right. Shame on people for copying Eneloops. Plus, correct me if I’m wrong, but the LSD Eneloops are made by FDK I believe. No one else makes them to my knowledge since it’s a trade secret.

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Maybe try comparing with a couple of AAA Eneloop (both are genuine Eneloops, left side is "Made in China" ; right side is "Made in Japan")

 

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Thanks for the great comparison! 

The fake package mentions Min. 800mAh, which I have never seen on any AAA package. 

Also, Japan Technoly.... whatever that means. 

 

So funny to see the backside of the Chinese made Eneloops d_t_a ... it says with large letters: Eneloop Technology from JAPAN to the world.. but are made in China. Just an interesting detail I just noticed.

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So funny to see the backside of the Chinese made Eneloops d_t_a … it says with large letters: Eneloop Technology from JAPAN to the world.. but are made in China. Just an interesting detail I just noticed.

When I was a kid growing up in Sweden, the label on the honeyjar said in large writing, “Authentic Swedish Honey” and in smaller writing, “Made in Hungary”

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Hahaha. that is funny. 

I had the same: The best dried Hawaiian Mangoes. 
but in small font on the back: from the Phillipines.. 

hahaha

 

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With most things, you have to go to a third party to get fakes, but eneloop makes their own Chinese “JAPAN Technology” fakes.

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ChibiM wrote:

Thanks for the great comparison! 


The fake package mentions Min. 800mAh, which I have never seen on any AAA package. 


Also, Japan Technoly…. whatever that means. 


 


So funny to see the backside of the Chinese made Eneloops d_t_a … it says with large letters: Eneloop Technology from JAPAN to the world.. but are made in China. Just an interesting detail I just noticed.


Have there been any recent comparisons of the Chinese vs Japanese eneloops. (I just buy Ikea Laddas anyway in Australia).

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