Overview: All Eneloop batteries 2005-2021

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Might grab it.  Does one need to fiddle around with it when inserting AA or AAA batteries or is it auto?  Does it also slow charge the eneloops like the BQ-CC17 does?  I like that the batteries don't overheat on the panasonic charger.

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1. No. Just put it on the charger, and it’ll charge it. Unless it’s a HV li-ion cell(4,35V) or LiFePO4, it’s just plug and play.

2. Charges at default at 500mA. Charging it slightly faster at say 750mA for AAs, and 500mA for AAAs is recommended, as it helps the charger find the right time to stop discharge when the cell is almost completely full.

It’s a really nice charger, especially for casuals. I’ve been using it for 3 years as said before, and it hasn’t let me down. That is one advantage of being a low power charger: passive cooling is juust fine, and will never heat up the cells on its own.

I also bought multiple units for some friends, and nobody has come to me for advice, other than setting the charge rate for 1st time use.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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Ok, sounds like a must buy then  thanks for the help   I charged once my AA's with a VC4 and it really cooked them, so I've been hesitant since then.

 

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No.

It still exists:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/NEW-LiitoKala-Lii-100-1-2V-3-7V...AAA-18650-18350/217753_32813235933.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.12.58ff8e726Y7zH8

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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Thanks, just found it at the 133859 store.  That link you have, isn't that the 217753 store that was selling the fake batteries?  

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No.

All of the Liitokala stores sell fake 18650 cells. I’ve verified it.

They do not sell fake chargers though. I’ve bought all of my Li-402s from them, and no issues.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/67401
Liitokala Aliexpress Stores Battery Fraud: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/60547

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The CC17 is about $17 in the US, and if you buy 4, it could save you on shipping! 

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Announcement:

The Eneloop101.com website has been moved to a new server. Everything should be working again. If you still have trouble somehow, please let me know ASAP.

According to some tests, it knocks off about 20% of loading time in the US, and about 40-50% in Australia.. everything should be a little faster, especially on mobile. 

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What's wrong with Amazon.com? 
I received an email from a reader that the links on eneloop101.com to Amazon don't work anymore, and he was right! Almost all eneloops are gone from Amazon.com

 

I'm curious what happened. 

 

I have my own theory though.. if anyone is interested.

A few months ago I noticed some limited Amazon eneloops on Amazon.co.jp (Japan). I don't know if they are photoshopped or if the regular eneloops really have black letters instead of blue. The listing shows that they are Amazon.co.jp limited editions... 

https://www.amazon.co.jp/【Amazon-co-jp限定】パナソニック-単3形充電池-スタンダードモデル-BK-3MCC-4SA/dp/B07FR54TWY/

So maybe Amazon.com wants to have THEIR marketshare in Eneloops as well! OR they want to only promote Amazon NiMH batteries.. who knows.. would personally think its the former reason.

 

Discuss here: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/65483 

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Seems they changed the lineup but still plenty of eneloops. Don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

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arow55 wrote:
Seems they changed the lineup but still plenty of eneloops. Don't understand what you're trying to say.

 

Somehow they are all back in stock again! Not sure why this happened...   kind of odd

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Noticed eBay has eneloop lites for reasonable prices shipped from lithuania. Think they are legit? I like the idea of lower capacity that’s why I use rayovac aaa instead of eneloop mostly.

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Do you have a link?

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ChibiM wrote:

Do you have a link?


Just type in eneloop lite in eBay and bunch will show up in the USA at least.
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Link tp lites https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-x-Panasonic-eneloop-LITE-AA-950mAh-batteries-Ni-MH-Rechargeable-HR6-BK-3LCCE/123240750889?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20180816085401%26meid%3D04c1228e7d53473292df87caa4277820%26pid%3D100970%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D123240750889%26itm%3D123240750889&_trksid=p2380057.c100970.m5481&_trkparms=pageci%3Ab370fc65-25e7-11e9-891a-74dbd1806f9c%7Cparentrq%3Aa7ab9ecd1680ad79520a6244ffe3b801%7Ciid%3A1
Also have aaa. Hope link works.

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AAA are 550mah https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-PANASONIC-ENELOOP-LITE-RECHARGEABLE-AAA-HR03-BATTERIES-BLISTER-1-2V-550mAh-NEW/254013078357?epid=4021283036&hash=item3b245bfb

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Yes, that looks like a legit seller from Lithuania. Premiumpleasure. 

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ChibiM wrote:

Yes, that looks like a legit seller from Lithuania. Premiumpleasure. 

Hmmmm…. I wonder what kind of stuff they are selling the batteries for?

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ChibiM wrote:

Yes, that looks like a legit seller from Lithuania. Premiumpleasure. 

Hmmmm.... I wonder what kind of stuff they are selling the batteries for?

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ChibiM wrote:

Yes, that looks like a legit seller from Lithuania. Premiumpleasure. 


ordered some of the aaa lites. Now to see how long it takes to ship from Lithuania. After 3000 cycles will give my opinion of them in about 40 years.
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arow55 wrote:
ChibiM wrote:

Yes, that looks like a legit seller from Lithuania. Premiumpleasure. 

ordered some of the aaa lites. Now to see how long it takes to ship from Lithuania. After 3000 cycles will give my opinion of them in about 40 years.

LOL.

Will put it down in my calendar on February 5, 2059.

Talk to you then!

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arow55 wrote:
ChibiM wrote:

Yes, that looks like a legit seller from Lithuania. Premiumpleasure. 


ordered some of the aaa lites. Now to see how long it takes to ship from Lithuania. After 3000 cycles will give my opinion of them in about 40 years.

Got my order. That was pretty fast. Now to start testing.
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Great.. Looking forward to some test results!

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Does anyone know the expected lifespan of Eneloops when they’re only run through a few cycles per year? How are older cells holding up under these conditions?

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Probably many many years.. I am pretty sure 10+ years....

From everything I have come across until now.

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I’m getting great service from AA, AAA not so much. I think that form factor is less robust.

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Hugh Johnson wrote:
Does anyone know the expected lifespan of Eneloops when they’re only run through a few cycles per year? How are older cells holding up under these conditions?

Yeah, we’re still figuring that one out. I have several Eneloops from the year they came out (2006), and they’re all still good. Maybe lost 5%-10% of their capacity. They have somewhere between 100-200 cycles on them.

Out of over 300 Eneloops, I’ve only had 1 cell go bad on me for no reason. It’s from 2009. Still works, but has very high internal resistance and only 1300mAh capcity (at a low discharge rate). I’ve had 2 others go bad the same way, but that is from too many cycles (several hundred cycles).

Anyway, in general, you should easily expect 10 years out of your cells if you only cycle them 1 or 2 dozen times per year. I expect the real answer will be closer to 20 years, but I’ll have to wait another 7 years to see.

Once the cells go bad, they’re no good for high-drain applications (like flashlights), but they’re still fine for low-drain stuff, like remote controls.

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flydiver wrote:
I’m getting great service from AA, AAA not so much. I think that form factor is less robust.

That’s why i’m trying eneloop lites. Think lower capacity nimhs have all the advantages EXCEPT capacity.
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Guys, I need your advice:

I’ve got 4 Sony LSD AAA batteries ( NH-AAA-B4GN 840mAh), that are rewrapped 1st and 2nd gen Eneloop PRO batteries according to eneloop101 website. Recently, these batteries stopped being charged by my Panasonic BQ-CC17 smart charger (charging leds keep flashing), which usually means the internal resistance of these batteries is too high. Unless I got counterfeit batteries, this shouldn’t have happened, because I purchased them in September 2016 and they have always been charged with the aforementioned smart charger.

I’m aware of the trick of doing an initial charge with a dumb charger and then completing the charge with a smart one so it will not reject the sick batteries. However, this trick has been not working with a Panasonic cordless phone charger, that can output 6.0V/400mA. I charge the batteries on the cordless phone charger and some hours later the batteries are supposedly charged, but only a few minutes after charging them with the BQ-CC17, the leds start flashing and charging stops.

My question is: is the trick not working just because I’m using a cordless phone charger, or even a dumb charger won’t be able to prevent the Panasonic charger from rejecting the batteries? I wonder whether the BQ-CC17 is a very picky charger or the Sony batteries are really sick even after less than three years of use and being properly cared. It would suck to buy a dumb charger and find out that the smart one will still reject the batteries.

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